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Genie Series Link Limit - Is 100 enough?


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Poll: How many Genie SLs are in your Series Manager? (175 member(s) have cast votes)

How many Genie SLs are in your Series Manager? Check all that apply.

  1. 0-50 (50 votes [25.91%])

    Percentage of vote: 25.91%

  2. 50-75 (27 votes [13.99%])

    Percentage of vote: 13.99%

  3. 75-100 (29 votes [15.03%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.03%

  4. I wish I could add more than 100 (87 votes [45.08%])

    Percentage of vote: 45.08%

  5. I would never need more than 100 (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#51 OFFLINE   Gordon Shumway

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Posted 08 December 2013 - 07:22 PM

Do you record everything that is watched in your household?


Yes, and in fairness there are no kids left in the house. Don't think that would have made much of a difference as none of them ever spent much time parked in front of a TV, but that might be different if they were around today.

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Posted 08 December 2013 - 07:58 PM

Yes, and in fairness there are no kids left in the house. Don't think that would have made much of a difference as none of them ever spent much time parked in front of a TV, but that might be different if they were around today.

 

You might be a good candidate for being a cord cutter. You're probably spending more for DirecTV than is actually worth it. Unless it's mainly sports.



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Posted 09 December 2013 - 12:22 PM

Do you record everything that is watched in your household?

Quite honestly, if you have a house with a couple of kids and you're a tv family, a Genie and a few clients probably doesnt cut it anyway.  The kids are gonna fill up that 1TB pretty fast with all their shows that are on 10 times a day....they still need their own dvr instead of a Genie client


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Posted 09 December 2013 - 12:24 PM

Depends on their age. If they are young they will record a lot but probably only keep 5 or so episodes of any one thing, based on what I have seen from friends and neighbors who are not at all the tv junkie that I am. ;) Still that's not an excuse for 100 IMHO since I can add a esata, an it's more about the number of shows over the course of a year.

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Posted 09 December 2013 - 12:57 PM

If I remember right, before the release of the Genie, there were some reports that it was still going to be limited to 50, but they increased it. I think there were performance concerns.

 

I was half expecting a box like the 44 to bump to 150 or 200.



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Posted 09 December 2013 - 09:59 PM

Depends on their age. If they are young they will record a lot but probably only keep 5 or so episodes of any one thing, 

you have not seen my son's HR24 then...


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Posted 10 December 2013 - 07:31 AM

you have not seen my son's HR24 then...

Or my Kids HR23, and Half my Genie space.

My HR 23 is full, HR34 only has 40% left.
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Posted 10 December 2013 - 03:40 PM

I'm talking real young, like under 7...

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Posted 10 December 2013 - 03:43 PM

I'm talking real young, like under 7...

 

I record shows for my 3 grandkids, ages 1, 3 and 4. I probably have 9-10 SLs, 5 episodes each, and a couple of movies. Maybe 20% of my drive space? :scratchin Not sure.


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Posted 22 August 2014 - 12:34 PM

Is there a valid reason for having a series limit?  With the fall season soon to start, I have 3 spots open to record new shows.  Even if I delete all the summer shows, I won't have enough, to have a season pass for the new shows the 6 of us want to record.  I'd rather not have to get rid of the genie client, and buy another HD dvr.



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Posted 22 August 2014 - 02:18 PM

...If I remember right the Tivo's used to have a duplicate option...

Yes, TiVo has 3 options "New only", "New and repeats" and "All." New is a bit tricky, because on TiVo it does not mean first run only, it can apply to first runs and/or any repeats within the first week or so. "New and repeats" is as you would expect, any episode, regardless of original air date. For both of these, no duplicates will be recorded. "All" means each and every broadcast of every episode (useful for those shows that lack any information at all).

With our Genie we had more of an issue with disk space than number of series links. Now that we have 2 TiVos with 6 tuners and 3 TB disks each, we still have only about 80 Season Passes, but each DVR has about 1.5 TB of content (of course, Verizon uses MPEG2 instead of MPEG4, so it isn't an exact apples to apples comparison). DirecTV DVRs get really sluggish and a bit flaky if the disk fills up, so I really think a 5 tuner DVR should have more than 1TB of storage.

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Posted 22 August 2014 - 05:45 PM

I'm at 57 before setting things up for NFL and NCAA football shortly. The poll treats "I could use more than 100" and providing the actual number in use (which in my case was 50-75), as mutually exclusive, which they are not. I am using between 50 and 75 and could use more than 100 (because there are some series links that I have deleted and not added that I would, if the number available was > 100.)


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Posted 22 August 2014 - 09:46 PM

Is there a valid reason for having a series limit?  With the fall season soon to start, I have 3 spots open to record new shows.  Even if I delete all the summer shows, I won't have enough, to have a season pass for the new shows the 6 of us want to record.  I'd rather not have to get rid of the genie client, and buy another HD dvr.

 

It drives me nuts too. With now seems like three seasons of shows - I have mo' show on hiatus in my Series Management List then active series.

 

We need an inactive/hiatus switch for our series. In other words, a death zone for the DVR.


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Posted 22 August 2014 - 11:08 PM

I have almost 150 right now..  i hate the limits with a passion.



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Posted 23 August 2014 - 08:16 AM

I'm at 57 before setting things up for NFL and NCAA football shortly. The poll treats "I could use more than 100" and providing the actual number in use (which in my case was 50-75), as mutually exclusive, which they are not. I am using between 50 and 75 and could use more than 100 (because there are some series links that I have deleted and not added that I would, if the number available was > 100.)

 

Good point, hasan. I updated the poll to multiple choice.

 

Anyone who feels the need can delete their vote and re-vote.


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Posted 23 August 2014 - 12:21 PM

Thanks, Steve, I corrected my vote.


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Posted 23 August 2014 - 05:50 PM

Updated my vote.  I have never needed more than 100


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Posted 25 August 2014 - 10:18 AM

I lived with 50 until just a month ago.  Sometimes things would get full and I'd go remove shows that were off the air at the time.  Like remove HBO shows the 7-8 months of the year they weren't on.

 

I have the Genie now and I probably only have 20-30 series set right now.  That will grow quit a bit over the coming months as the fall season starts. 

 

I think if I don't delete any links, in a year, I should still be below 100.  I think it will be plenty for me.  I live alone, so don't have to share any links with anyone else in the house.  I can see the 100 limit getting very annoying if I had a family in the house.



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Posted 25 August 2014 - 10:57 AM

Just me and the Mrs. here. I'm not with DIRECTV at the moment, but I currently have 78 series links on my Optimum "cloud DVR" playlist, including last year's returning prime-time shows and about a half-dozen shows we record for the grandkids. My guess is we'll probably only add another 6-12 shows in the coming months, so no need for more than 100 here. If my two kids were still living at home, though, I could easily see us exceeding 100.


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Posted 25 August 2014 - 12:44 PM

There have been cases where I thought a show was cancelled only to have it show up again, recently this happened with Airplane Repo (even as I hate what Discovery has become :) )

 

Combined with the fact that we can schedule shows in advance of them starting, it adds up. Though last night I did delete True Blood and Emerald City, and will have a two more HBO deletions in the coming months.



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Posted 25 August 2014 - 01:18 PM

Many networks are creating short-run series that run only once a year (think dark skies, justified, last ship, etc).  It would be great if we could keep auto-recording new episodes without deleting some and adding others throughout the year.

 

The answer from DirecTV is probably to purchase more DVRs, I seldom find all 5 tuners recording at the same time.

 

Wouldn't it be easier if DirecTV saved our lists on their servers (cloud) and used the DVR as a remote recording device?  I can envision a cloud-based UI to manage series as well that works in harmony with my local hardware.


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Posted 25 August 2014 - 11:15 PM

I go down my Series list and google the shows that are currently off to see if they were renewed or canceled. I delete the cancelled but like to leave the renewed ones in the list so I don't miss it when they return. For this reason, I want more than 100. At any given time, between network, HBO and cable channels with three or four seasons a year now, it is easy to reach the limit.  This is especially true at the beginning of a season when there may be twice as many shows I want to check out before narrowing the list to the ones I end up deciding to follow.



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Posted 26 August 2014 - 04:16 AM

Wouldn't it be easier if DirecTV saved our lists on their servers (cloud) and used the DVR as a remote recording device?  I can envision a cloud-based UI to manage series as well that works in harmony with my local hardware.

This has been a wish among many for a few years! That and externals tied to accounts, not specific DVRs. Well ok, I may have opened the door: There are many other desires, too. 


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Posted 26 August 2014 - 04:39 PM

I go down my Series list and google the shows that are currently off to see if they were renewed or canceled. I delete the cancelled but like to leave the renewed ones in the list so I don't miss it when they return. For this reason, I want more than 100. At any given time, between network, HBO and cable channels with three or four seasons a year now, it is easy to reach the limit.  This is especially true at the beginning of a season when there may be twice as many shows I want to check out before narrowing the list to the ones I end up deciding to follow.

I agree with this for the same reasons, plus, if you want to record all 32 pro football teams on any channel that you are subscribed to, then you end up with a minimum of 16 additional series links, if you use the season record feature of the Sports Search. Any series that is "current", may or not be in season. I would like to leave the current series that are out of season in my series links. By the time you do that and add pro and ncaa football favorites, one could easily exceed 100. I love having 100, don't get me wrong...it has saved a lot of time. I would like to see it be unlimited (or some silly number like 250), as long as it didn't bog the processor down.

 

Whatever is going to be done, if it takes us back to the bad old days of underpowered processor and memory for a given set of tasks, then  I don't want it. 

 

The HR44-700 is the first DVR that has felt "fast" and "responsive" since the HR20-700 peaked out. I don't want to go backwards just to get new features or "more" of anything. I gotten to really like the HR44-700, I don't want to go backwards. (in performance)


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Posted 26 August 2014 - 10:03 PM

I added the Tonight Show this afternoon, and now I'm at 99.  Crap.


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