Jump to content


Welcome to DBSTalk


Sign In 

Create Account
Welcome to DBSTalk. Our community covers all aspects of video delivery solutions including: Direct Broadcast Satellite (DBS), Cable Television, and Internet Protocol Television (IPTV). We also have forums to discuss popular television programs, home theater equipment, and internet streaming service providers. Members of our community include experts who can help you solve technical problems, industry professionals, company representatives, and novices who are here to learn.

Like most online communities you must register to view or post in our community. Sign-up is a free and simple process that requires minimal information. Be a part of our community by signing in or creating an account. The Digital Bit Stream starts here!
  • Reply to existing topics or start a discussion of your own
  • Subscribe to topics and forums and get email updates
  • Send private personal messages (PM) to other forum members
  • Customize your profile page and make new friends
 
Guest Message by DevFuse

Photo
- - - - -

Epix to Directv?


  • Please log in to reply
422 replies to this topic

#276 OFFLINE   Justin23

Justin23

    Hall Of Fame

  • Registered
  • 1,212 posts
Joined: Jan 10, 2008

Posted 05 February 2013 - 08:01 PM

Did you get a hold of that NFL ST subscriber list yet?


I don't have to (nor can I since that isn't publicly available).

The NFLST break even point for D* is $333. The lowest FCO for NFLST is $1445.

So every 1-50 FCO bar & restaurant generates +$1112 over the break even point....and that is for a small establishment. Imagine all of those locations that are bigger that carry NFLST.

Use common sense, man.

...Ads Help To Support This Site...

#277 OFFLINE   damondlt

damondlt

    Hall Of Fame

  • Registered
  • 4,869 posts
  • LocationNewfoundland, Pa
Joined: Feb 27, 2006

Posted 06 February 2013 - 06:38 AM

.

So, DirecTV has been selected by roughly 17% of the households to which it was offered.

.

And took almost 20 years to achive that.

Blue Ridge Communticatons

Digital HD Basic Plus, Cinemax,Showtime/TMC,Starz /Encore
Tivo T6 (Roamio Plus) Master Bedroom,Samsung 5300 40 Inch

Tivo Mini Livingroom Vizio M602i-B3 60 Inch

Tivo Mini Bedroom 2  LG 26LE5300 26 Inch
Tivo Mini Bedroom 3  Element ELEFW328 32 Inch
Cisco HD ,Bedroom office 4  Magnavox 32 inch

Arris Touchstone DG1660

Dream 60 Mbps down 3 Mbps up.

 


#278 OFFLINE   damondlt

damondlt

    Hall Of Fame

  • Registered
  • 4,869 posts
  • LocationNewfoundland, Pa
Joined: Feb 27, 2006

Posted 06 February 2013 - 06:43 AM

I don't have to (nor can I since that isn't publicly available).

The NFLST break even point for D* is $333. The lowest FCO for NFLST is $1445.

So every 1-50 FCO bar & restaurant generates +$1112 over the break even point....and that is for a small establishment. Imagine all of those locations that are bigger that carry NFLST.

Use common sense, man.


You still make no sence , without a subcriber count, residential and commercial, your numbers and directv .coms commericial price sheet mean nothing.


Directv is said to have 2 million st subscribers, NOT PAYING commercial subscribers, Not Paying Residential customers

TOTAL Subscribers!

Not all 2 million pay for it.

Blue Ridge Communticatons

Digital HD Basic Plus, Cinemax,Showtime/TMC,Starz /Encore
Tivo T6 (Roamio Plus) Master Bedroom,Samsung 5300 40 Inch

Tivo Mini Livingroom Vizio M602i-B3 60 Inch

Tivo Mini Bedroom 2  LG 26LE5300 26 Inch
Tivo Mini Bedroom 3  Element ELEFW328 32 Inch
Cisco HD ,Bedroom office 4  Magnavox 32 inch

Arris Touchstone DG1660

Dream 60 Mbps down 3 Mbps up.

 


#279 OFFLINE   damondlt

damondlt

    Hall Of Fame

  • Registered
  • 4,869 posts
  • LocationNewfoundland, Pa
Joined: Feb 27, 2006

Posted 06 February 2013 - 06:45 AM

I don't have to (nor can I since that isn't publicly available).

The NFLST break even point for D* is $333.
.


Isn't Directv a Publicly Traded company?

And where did you get the Break even number?

Blue Ridge Communticatons

Digital HD Basic Plus, Cinemax,Showtime/TMC,Starz /Encore
Tivo T6 (Roamio Plus) Master Bedroom,Samsung 5300 40 Inch

Tivo Mini Livingroom Vizio M602i-B3 60 Inch

Tivo Mini Bedroom 2  LG 26LE5300 26 Inch
Tivo Mini Bedroom 3  Element ELEFW328 32 Inch
Cisco HD ,Bedroom office 4  Magnavox 32 inch

Arris Touchstone DG1660

Dream 60 Mbps down 3 Mbps up.

 


#280 OFFLINE   tonyd79

tonyd79

    Hall Of Fame

  • Registered
  • 12,878 posts
  • LocationColumbia, MD
Joined: Jul 24, 2006

Posted 06 February 2013 - 07:07 AM

Isn't Directv a Publicly Traded company?


Yes, they are, so when the CEO says in a financial report that Sunday Ticket pays for itself, he cannot legally lie about that. This was referenced earlier in the thread. You ignored it.
LR: HR34-700, H24-200, Fios DVR, BD350 Blu Ray, Roku Netflix Player, Chromecast, Sony 65w850 TV
BR: HR21-200, Viso 32LX, DB350 Blu Ray
Dish: Slimline, SWM8
Other: genieGo

#281 OFFLINE   damondlt

damondlt

    Hall Of Fame

  • Registered
  • 4,869 posts
  • LocationNewfoundland, Pa
Joined: Feb 27, 2006

Posted 06 February 2013 - 07:28 AM

Yes, they are, so when the CEO says in a financial report that Sunday Ticket pays for itself, he cannot legally lie about that. This was referenced earlier in the thread. You ignored it.

No body ignored it, I wanted to hear it , and no one provided it.

Financial reports are also on paper, and I looked throught the entire 2011 reports and saw no mention of this.

Just point it out, and thats that!

I just find it hard to believe that according to some here that EPIX would be a finacial drain on Directv subscribers, but yet non of the others like Seasonal Sports packs, and RSN contracts, THE CURRENT, Premiums cause no current inflation of our prices .

Sounds dumb right?

Edited by damondlt, 06 February 2013 - 07:48 AM.

Blue Ridge Communticatons

Digital HD Basic Plus, Cinemax,Showtime/TMC,Starz /Encore
Tivo T6 (Roamio Plus) Master Bedroom,Samsung 5300 40 Inch

Tivo Mini Livingroom Vizio M602i-B3 60 Inch

Tivo Mini Bedroom 2  LG 26LE5300 26 Inch
Tivo Mini Bedroom 3  Element ELEFW328 32 Inch
Cisco HD ,Bedroom office 4  Magnavox 32 inch

Arris Touchstone DG1660

Dream 60 Mbps down 3 Mbps up.

 


#282 OFFLINE   Justin23

Justin23

    Hall Of Fame

  • Registered
  • 1,212 posts
Joined: Jan 10, 2008

Posted 06 February 2013 - 07:40 AM

Isn't Directv a Publicly Traded company?

And where did you get the Break even number?


So all publicly traded companies have to make every bit of their businesses known? C'mon, now you sound silly...

I will do the math (again) for you as I did earlier in this thread.

- $1 billion dollars D* pays per year for NFLST
- Approximately 3 million NFLST subscribers

After some simple division, you get $333 cost per subscriber. Magic, ain't it?

#283 OFFLINE   Justin23

Justin23

    Hall Of Fame

  • Registered
  • 1,212 posts
Joined: Jan 10, 2008

Posted 06 February 2013 - 07:42 AM

No body ignored it, I wanted to hear it , and no one provided it.

Financial reports are also on paper, and I looked throught the entire 2011 reports and saw no mention of this.

Just point it out, and thats that!

I just find it hard to believe that according to some here that EPIX would be a finacial drain on Directv subscribers, but yet non of the others like Seasonal Sports packs, and RSN contracts, THE CURRRT, Premiums cause no current inflation of our prices .

Sounds dumb right?


Only one you are right about (other than Epix) is RSN contracts.

What is "THE CURRRT"?

#284 OFFLINE   damondlt

damondlt

    Hall Of Fame

  • Registered
  • 4,869 posts
  • LocationNewfoundland, Pa
Joined: Feb 27, 2006

Posted 06 February 2013 - 07:46 AM

So all publicly traded companies have to make every bit of their businesses known? C'mon, now you sound silly...

I will do the math (again) for you as I did earlier in this thread.

- $1 billion dollars D* pays per year for NFLST
- Approximately 3 million NFLST subscribers

After some simple division, you get $333 cost per subscriber. Magic, ain't it?

Again, there is not 3 million PAYING ST subscribers

By the way its Between 2 and 3 million TOTAL!

Blue Ridge Communticatons

Digital HD Basic Plus, Cinemax,Showtime/TMC,Starz /Encore
Tivo T6 (Roamio Plus) Master Bedroom,Samsung 5300 40 Inch

Tivo Mini Livingroom Vizio M602i-B3 60 Inch

Tivo Mini Bedroom 2  LG 26LE5300 26 Inch
Tivo Mini Bedroom 3  Element ELEFW328 32 Inch
Cisco HD ,Bedroom office 4  Magnavox 32 inch

Arris Touchstone DG1660

Dream 60 Mbps down 3 Mbps up.

 


#285 OFFLINE   Justin23

Justin23

    Hall Of Fame

  • Registered
  • 1,212 posts
Joined: Jan 10, 2008

Posted 06 February 2013 - 07:50 AM

Again, there is not 3 million PAYING ST subscribers

By the way its Between 2 and 3 million TOTAL!


Fine...I'll even take 1 million off that number.

2 million subs to NFLST...cost per subscriber is $500. The 1-50 FCO restaurant example I provided earlier is now +$945 above cost.

The commercial customers more than make up and cover the cost.

#286 OFFLINE   Justin23

Justin23

    Hall Of Fame

  • Registered
  • 1,212 posts
Joined: Jan 10, 2008

Posted 06 February 2013 - 07:51 AM

Again, there is not 3 million PAYING ST subscribers

By the way its Between 2 and 3 million TOTAL!


Link, please...

#287 OFFLINE   damondlt

damondlt

    Hall Of Fame

  • Registered
  • 4,869 posts
  • LocationNewfoundland, Pa
Joined: Feb 27, 2006

Posted 06 February 2013 - 07:51 AM

Only one you are right about (other than Epix) is RSN contracts.

"?

OH so the other premium offerings cost the customers nothing for Directv to offer them?


:hurah:

Blue Ridge Communticatons

Digital HD Basic Plus, Cinemax,Showtime/TMC,Starz /Encore
Tivo T6 (Roamio Plus) Master Bedroom,Samsung 5300 40 Inch

Tivo Mini Livingroom Vizio M602i-B3 60 Inch

Tivo Mini Bedroom 2  LG 26LE5300 26 Inch
Tivo Mini Bedroom 3  Element ELEFW328 32 Inch
Cisco HD ,Bedroom office 4  Magnavox 32 inch

Arris Touchstone DG1660

Dream 60 Mbps down 3 Mbps up.

 


#288 OFFLINE   damondlt

damondlt

    Hall Of Fame

  • Registered
  • 4,869 posts
  • LocationNewfoundland, Pa
Joined: Feb 27, 2006

Posted 06 February 2013 - 07:53 AM

Link, please...


http://www.bloomberg...lure-users.html

Blue Ridge Communticatons

Digital HD Basic Plus, Cinemax,Showtime/TMC,Starz /Encore
Tivo T6 (Roamio Plus) Master Bedroom,Samsung 5300 40 Inch

Tivo Mini Livingroom Vizio M602i-B3 60 Inch

Tivo Mini Bedroom 2  LG 26LE5300 26 Inch
Tivo Mini Bedroom 3  Element ELEFW328 32 Inch
Cisco HD ,Bedroom office 4  Magnavox 32 inch

Arris Touchstone DG1660

Dream 60 Mbps down 3 Mbps up.

 


#289 OFFLINE   damondlt

damondlt

    Hall Of Fame

  • Registered
  • 4,869 posts
  • LocationNewfoundland, Pa
Joined: Feb 27, 2006

Posted 06 February 2013 - 07:58 AM

Fine...I'll even take 1 million off that number.

2 million subs to NFLST...cost per subscriber is $500. The 1-50 FCO restaurant example I provided earlier is now +$945 above cost.

The commercial customers more than make up and cover the cost.


Yep now, how many are commercial, and how many got it for free?

Blue Ridge Communticatons

Digital HD Basic Plus, Cinemax,Showtime/TMC,Starz /Encore
Tivo T6 (Roamio Plus) Master Bedroom,Samsung 5300 40 Inch

Tivo Mini Livingroom Vizio M602i-B3 60 Inch

Tivo Mini Bedroom 2  LG 26LE5300 26 Inch
Tivo Mini Bedroom 3  Element ELEFW328 32 Inch
Cisco HD ,Bedroom office 4  Magnavox 32 inch

Arris Touchstone DG1660

Dream 60 Mbps down 3 Mbps up.

 


#290 OFFLINE   Justin23

Justin23

    Hall Of Fame

  • Registered
  • 1,212 posts
Joined: Jan 10, 2008

Posted 06 February 2013 - 08:02 AM

Yep now, how many are commercial, and how many got it for free?


The only people who know that info are the D* execs. And as it was pointed out to you earlier, CEO Mike White has said on financial calls that NFLST pays for itself.

#291 OFFLINE   Hoosier205

Hoosier205

    Hall Of Fame

  • Registered
  • 6,617 posts
Joined: Sep 03, 2007

Posted 06 February 2013 - 08:10 AM

No body ignored it, I wanted to hear it , and no one provided it.

Financial reports are also on paper, and I looked throught the entire 2011 reports and saw no mention of this.

Just point it out, and thats that!

I just find it hard to believe that according to some here that EPIX would be a finacial drain on Directv subscribers, but yet non of the others like Seasonal Sports packs, and RSN contracts, THE CURRENT, Premiums cause no current inflation of our prices .

Sounds dumb right?


I will say it again. Quarterly conference calls. Listen to them.
DTV = Digital Television

#292 OFFLINE   damondlt

damondlt

    Hall Of Fame

  • Registered
  • 4,869 posts
  • LocationNewfoundland, Pa
Joined: Feb 27, 2006

Posted 06 February 2013 - 08:10 AM

The only people who know that info are the D* execs. And as it was pointed out to you earlier, CEO Mike White has said on financial calls that NFLST pays for itself.


Yep and Charlie Ergen also said the economy is bad when they had 3 quarters in a row subscriber losses, While Directv ,att,verizon,comcast,time warner all had big subscriber increases.

So untill I hear it or see that in writing I'm not convinced.

Blue Ridge Communticatons

Digital HD Basic Plus, Cinemax,Showtime/TMC,Starz /Encore
Tivo T6 (Roamio Plus) Master Bedroom,Samsung 5300 40 Inch

Tivo Mini Livingroom Vizio M602i-B3 60 Inch

Tivo Mini Bedroom 2  LG 26LE5300 26 Inch
Tivo Mini Bedroom 3  Element ELEFW328 32 Inch
Cisco HD ,Bedroom office 4  Magnavox 32 inch

Arris Touchstone DG1660

Dream 60 Mbps down 3 Mbps up.

 


#293 OFFLINE   damondlt

damondlt

    Hall Of Fame

  • Registered
  • 4,869 posts
  • LocationNewfoundland, Pa
Joined: Feb 27, 2006

Posted 06 February 2013 - 08:11 AM

I will say it again. Quarterly conference calls. Listen to them.

Give me one and I'll listen.:confused:

Blue Ridge Communticatons

Digital HD Basic Plus, Cinemax,Showtime/TMC,Starz /Encore
Tivo T6 (Roamio Plus) Master Bedroom,Samsung 5300 40 Inch

Tivo Mini Livingroom Vizio M602i-B3 60 Inch

Tivo Mini Bedroom 2  LG 26LE5300 26 Inch
Tivo Mini Bedroom 3  Element ELEFW328 32 Inch
Cisco HD ,Bedroom office 4  Magnavox 32 inch

Arris Touchstone DG1660

Dream 60 Mbps down 3 Mbps up.

 


#294 OFFLINE   Hoosier205

Hoosier205

    Hall Of Fame

  • Registered
  • 6,617 posts
Joined: Sep 03, 2007

Posted 06 February 2013 - 08:13 AM

Give me one and I'll listen.:confused:


Have fun.

http://investor.directv.com/events.cfm
DTV = Digital Television

#295 OFFLINE   damondlt

damondlt

    Hall Of Fame

  • Registered
  • 4,869 posts
  • LocationNewfoundland, Pa
Joined: Feb 27, 2006

Posted 06 February 2013 - 08:23 AM

Have fun.

http://investor.directv.com/events.cfm

Could you give me a clue on what one?

Since year end results are not untill next week, I'm guessing 2011 results?

Blue Ridge Communticatons

Digital HD Basic Plus, Cinemax,Showtime/TMC,Starz /Encore
Tivo T6 (Roamio Plus) Master Bedroom,Samsung 5300 40 Inch

Tivo Mini Livingroom Vizio M602i-B3 60 Inch

Tivo Mini Bedroom 2  LG 26LE5300 26 Inch
Tivo Mini Bedroom 3  Element ELEFW328 32 Inch
Cisco HD ,Bedroom office 4  Magnavox 32 inch

Arris Touchstone DG1660

Dream 60 Mbps down 3 Mbps up.

 


#296 ONLINE   sigma1914

sigma1914

    Hall Of Fame

  • DBSTalk Club
  • 14,266 posts
  • LocationAllen, TX
Joined: Sep 05, 2006

Posted 06 February 2013 - 09:02 AM

The city of Dallas has 9 bars/grills listed with ST. http://www.wheretowa...tion=Dallas, TX

I've been in 2 listed & their Fire Occupancy Code (FOC) is fairly large... that's big money. Damn near every Buffalo Wild Wings & Hooters ST. Then, add casinos, which have huge FOC, and you'll see even bigger money.
If you stop responding to them or put them on ignore, then eventually they'll go away.

#297 OFFLINE   damondlt

damondlt

    Hall Of Fame

  • Registered
  • 4,869 posts
  • LocationNewfoundland, Pa
Joined: Feb 27, 2006

Posted 06 February 2013 - 09:04 AM

Well Directv Premium movie channels have the Highest buy rate per subscriber in 3 years.

Strong buy rate for movie and PPV events.

Blue Ridge Communticatons

Digital HD Basic Plus, Cinemax,Showtime/TMC,Starz /Encore
Tivo T6 (Roamio Plus) Master Bedroom,Samsung 5300 40 Inch

Tivo Mini Livingroom Vizio M602i-B3 60 Inch

Tivo Mini Bedroom 2  LG 26LE5300 26 Inch
Tivo Mini Bedroom 3  Element ELEFW328 32 Inch
Cisco HD ,Bedroom office 4  Magnavox 32 inch

Arris Touchstone DG1660

Dream 60 Mbps down 3 Mbps up.

 


#298 OFFLINE   damondlt

damondlt

    Hall Of Fame

  • Registered
  • 4,869 posts
  • LocationNewfoundland, Pa
Joined: Feb 27, 2006

Posted 06 February 2013 - 09:09 AM

Ha . Up down prices are down because of increases NFL ST services increased Pressure on margins

Significant Year over year increases

28 minutes in 2011 year end conference call

Blue Ridge Communticatons

Digital HD Basic Plus, Cinemax,Showtime/TMC,Starz /Encore
Tivo T6 (Roamio Plus) Master Bedroom,Samsung 5300 40 Inch

Tivo Mini Livingroom Vizio M602i-B3 60 Inch

Tivo Mini Bedroom 2  LG 26LE5300 26 Inch
Tivo Mini Bedroom 3  Element ELEFW328 32 Inch
Cisco HD ,Bedroom office 4  Magnavox 32 inch

Arris Touchstone DG1660

Dream 60 Mbps down 3 Mbps up.

 


#299 OFFLINE   harsh

harsh

    Beware the Attack Basset

  • Registered
  • 20,214 posts
  • LocationSalem, OR
Joined: Jun 14, 2003

Posted 06 February 2013 - 09:10 AM

Yep, that's all. Not very good.

Yet it is four to five times the subscriber numbers of NFL ST.

Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought. -- JFK


#300 OFFLINE   tonyd79

tonyd79

    Hall Of Fame

  • Registered
  • 12,878 posts
  • LocationColumbia, MD
Joined: Jul 24, 2006

Posted 06 February 2013 - 09:12 AM

No body ignored it, I wanted to hear it , and no one provided it.

Financial reports are also on paper, and I looked throught the entire 2011 reports and saw no mention of this.

Just point it out, and thats that!

I just find it hard to believe that according to some here that EPIX would be a finacial drain on Directv subscribers, but yet non of the others like Seasonal Sports packs, and RSN contracts, THE CURRENT, Premiums cause no current inflation of our prices .

Sounds dumb right?


You've got a computer. There are links all over this site and google. No one needs to provide you with a link.
LR: HR34-700, H24-200, Fios DVR, BD350 Blu Ray, Roku Netflix Player, Chromecast, Sony 65w850 TV
BR: HR21-200, Viso 32LX, DB350 Blu Ray
Dish: Slimline, SWM8
Other: genieGo




Protected By... spam firewall...And...