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2013 MLB Extra Innings Pricing Discussion


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#1 OFFLINE   cmasia

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 10:02 PM

I received my bill via email today and the following note was included:

<<<IMPORTANT RENEWAL NOTICE:
You are all set to enjoy another exciting year of MLB EXTRA INNINGS®. We are renewing you at the lowest price of 6 payments of $33.33/month. Look for the first charge to appear on an upcoming bill. If you wish to cancel to avoid payment, you must do so before the season starts; refunds not available after the season starts.>>>


If I'm not mistaken, last year I paid 6 X 34.99.

Ohhhhhhhhhhhh for Opening Day ! ! !

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 11:55 PM

I received my bill via email today and the following note was included:

<<<IMPORTANT RENEWAL NOTICE:
You are all set to enjoy another exciting year of MLB EXTRA INNINGS®. We are renewing you at the lowest price of 6 payments of $33.33/month. Look for the first charge to appear on an upcoming bill. If you wish to cancel to avoid payment, you must do so before the season starts; refunds not available after the season starts.>>>


If I'm not mistaken, last year I paid 6 X 34.99.

Ohhhhhhhhhhhh for Opening Day ! ! !


That's a $10 reduction, from $210 to $200, for the season. That's welcome, but what I want to know is whether MLBEI and MLB.TV are going to be combined this year.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 12:15 AM

same here, i think alot of people are waiting on that announcement

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 10:18 AM

:) I Would love to be able to record MLB Tv games on my DVR>

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 10:57 AM

at least 2013 is the last season before the Fox Network games can be EI :D

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 07:37 PM

After the rumors of a significant drop in price for EI (other threads based on e-mail surveys) and bundling with MLB.tv......to see only a $10 drop is disappointing.

I will probably abandon EI for MLB.tv. I previewed the MLB.tv feeds on my Roku last year for the Free Games of the Day and the PQ was HD quality except on action shots (some pixelation) but even then it was still decent enough. I will lose access to the MLB channel (I am only on the family pack) but I can't justify another $80 for the season just for that channel.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 08:53 PM

After the rumors of a significant drop in price for EI (other threads based on e-mail surveys) and bundling with MLB.tv......to see only a $10 drop is disappointing.

I will probably abandon EI for MLB.tv. I previewed the MLB.tv feeds on my Roku last year for the Free Games of the Day and the PQ was HD quality except on action shots (some pixelation) but even then it was still decent enough. I will lose access to the MLB channel (I am only on the family pack) but I can't justify another $80 for the season just for that channel.


I'm going to mlb.tv as well. Looked good enough to me on the ps3 last year.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 07:35 AM

i would think if they were going to bundle the 2(EI&MLB.TV) they would have mentioned it in the renewal notice?

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 08:13 AM

Was there ever any indication - from MLB, Directv, InDemand, whomever - that EI and MLB.TV would be bundled? I'm just wondering why people thought it was something that might come to pass, because I haven't read about it happening anywhere.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 08:39 AM

I'm going to mlb.tv as well. Looked good enough to me on the ps3 last year.


This. Quality was great actually. Also only on the family pack. With Fios in the house I'm increasingly getting frustrated at why I'm even keeping D* at all. The incredible quality of these online equivalents is making D* increasingly seem less necessary to me.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 10:09 AM

Was there ever any indication - from MLB, Directv, InDemand, whomever - that EI and MLB.TV would be bundled? I'm just wondering why people thought it was something that might come to pass, because I haven't read about it happening anywhere.


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Posted 25 January 2013 - 10:21 AM

It was mentioned in a poll of users.


Oh, that. So there was never any mention of it from official channels then. Thought I'd missed something.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 10:56 AM

Was there ever any indication - from MLB, Directv, InDemand, whomever - that EI and MLB.TV would be bundled? I'm just wondering why people thought it was something that might come to pass, because I haven't read about it happening anywhere.


Yes:

"Tim Brosnan, MLB executive vice president of business, broke some news when he said MLB is considering combining Extra Innings and MLB.TV into one offering. Currently, it takes two separate subscriptions to access MLB’s out-of-market packages on TV and online. Extra Innings subscribers do not have access to online streams, and MLB.TV subscribers can’t access out-of-market games through their cable provider."

http://www.sportsbus...orts-Media.aspx

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 11:07 AM

Had MLB.TV last season and, while the PQ was nowhere near DirecTV's HD, it was certainly watchable via Roku. Plus it gave me access to every radio broadcast. Will probably continue this year.
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Posted 25 January 2013 - 12:02 PM

Yes:

"Tim Brosnan, MLB executive vice president of business, broke some news when he said MLB is considering combining Extra Innings and MLB.TV into one offering. Currently, it takes two separate subscriptions to access MLB’s out-of-market packages on TV and online. Extra Innings subscribers do not have access to online streams, and MLB.TV subscribers can’t access out-of-market games through their cable provider."

http://www.sportsbus...orts-Media.aspx


Thank you.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 01:18 PM

Yes:

"Tim Brosnan, MLB executive vice president of business, broke some news when he said MLB is considering combining Extra Innings and MLB.TV into one offering. Currently, it takes two separate subscriptions to access MLB’s out-of-market packages on TV and online. Extra Innings subscribers do not have access to online streams, and MLB.TV subscribers can’t access out-of-market games through their cable provider."

http://www.sportsbus...orts-Media.aspx


Does anyone know when the current MLB EI contract expires? I would think a change like this would be part of a new contract for the rights to carry MLB EI.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 06:43 PM

Was there ever any indication - from MLB, Directv, InDemand, whomever - that EI and MLB.TV would be bundled? I'm just wondering why people thought it was something that might come to pass, because I haven't read about it happening anywhere.


Doubtful this will happen; two seperate companies; mlb advanced media runs MLB.tv; InDemand runs extra innings

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 07:46 PM

Had MLB.TV last season and, while the PQ was nowhere near DirecTV's HD, it was certainly watchable via Roku. Plus it gave me access to every radio broadcast. Will probably continue this year.

Watched it last year on Apple TV and the picture quality was not bad at all (HD)..+ they gave you dual feeds as well....will probaly go back to Apple TV this year as well......

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 10:05 PM

Doubtful this will happen; two seperate companies; mlb advanced media runs MLB.tv; InDemand runs extra innings


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Posted 25 January 2013 - 10:14 PM

I have to believe that mlb.tv is hurting EI. You can watch multiple streams (ipad and tv for example) and you can watch it everywhere on your phone. Picture quality is very good IMO. Oh and it is much cheaper!! It wins hands down for me.
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Posted 26 January 2013 - 08:32 AM

Do you guys and gals forget the controversy:)

On March 6, 2007, DirecTV signed a new seven-year carriage contract with the MLB. At first, it was to be an exclusive deal worth $700 million. However, as a result of viewer complaints and antitrust concerns - voiced by, among others, Massachusetts Senator John Kerry - MLB agreed to offer the package for renewal by cable systems and Dish Network. By March 9, negotiations had begun to try to settle the dispute, with a deadline of April 1, the first day of the MLB regular season.[3] MLB demanded that the cable systems bundle the renewal of the Extra Innings package with the MLB Network, a 24-hour network in the vein of NFL Network, NBA TV, and NHL Network that MLB launched on January 1, 2009. Furthermore, these systems were asked to place the channel on an expanded digital tier. At least one major system, Time Warner Cable, balked at the terms.[4]

The offer from the cable consortium to MLB would have matched the financing portion, but cable was only willing to put the MLB Network on a premium tier. Cable systems did guarantee to reach at least as many viewers of MLB Network as DirecTV will reach. MLB was not satisfied with the offer, and publicly claimed that the cable companies failed to meet more of the criteria for the deal than they had actually met.[5] However, while MLB wanted the cable systems to match the same offer as DirecTV, MLB would be providing more generous benefits to DirecTV for the very same offer: DirecTV would be receiving a stake in MLB Network, thereby barring cable systems from receiving the telecasts. Hence, MLB was accused of claiming that cable would not meet the same terms as DirecTV, while not offering the same deal to the cable consortium.[6]

As of the start of the season on April 2, only DirecTV had agreed to those terms and was able to retain Extra Innings. It would not be available on any cable system until after the deadline was extended and agreements were reached.[citation needed]

On April 4, MLB and iN DEMAND finally reached an agreement similar to the one that MLB reached with DirecTV. Cable companies that carry iN DEMAND resumed carrying MLB Extra Innings and also agreed to add the MLB Network upon its launch. iN DEMAND only had the authority to negotiate directly for and agree to add the MLB Network on their owners' cable systems which are made up by Comcast, Time Warner Cable, Cox Communications and Advance/Newhouse (Bright House Networks); in turn, iN DEMAND got an equity stake in the MLB Network about the same as the one DirecTV received. Cablevision which had been asking for their own equity stake as terms for them to agree to add the MLB Network came to terms with iN DEMAND and Major League Baseball on May 4, 2007 which was iN DEMAND and MLB's deadline for cable companies and Dish Network to reach a deal. Dish never came to an agreement and as of January 2013 is still not carrying the package. Cablevision agreed to carry the MLB Network without getting the equity stake in it. Charter Communications also reached an agreement with MLB.[7]


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Posted 26 January 2013 - 08:45 AM

InDemand runs EI for D*?

No. DirecTV does not use inDemand.

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 08:54 AM

No. DirecTV does not use inDemand.


MLB built a state of the art broadcast center and required every team to provide an SD & HD feed to the center. The providers along with MLB.TV have rights to these feeds as part of Extra Innings.

This was part of the reforms found in the 2007 agreement. Before that time extra innings was purely remapping RSNs on Directv. Earlier in the decade I spoke with one of the Directv attorneys negotiating the agreement with MLB. Having the rights provided by MLB was a cornerstone of the agreement. Directv did not want to have to find agreement with each provider and build infrastructure for OTA broadcasts. Also, it navigated the Comcast issue and had them receive Canadian feeds.

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 10:58 AM

Do you guys and gals forget the controversy:)


Well, that answers my question. So 2013 is the last year of the current contract. I would imagine, therefore, that bundling of MLB EI and MLB.TV would more likely happen next year than this year.

I so remember that controversy. In a way we benefited from it in our household. We did not subscribe to EI at the time, but we did (and still do) subscribe to both Comcast and DirecTV. We got a free preview of EI from DirecTV the first week of the season (not available on cable), then we got another free preview from Comcast the second week of the season, after InDemand finally got the rights for EI. So, two free weeks instead of one.

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 11:28 AM

MLB built a state of the art broadcast center and required every team to provide an SD & HD feed to the center. The providers along with MLB.TV have rights to these feeds as part of Extra Innings.

This was part of the reforms found in the 2007 agreement. Before that time extra innings was purely remapping RSNs on Directv. Earlier in the decade I spoke with one of the Directv attorneys negotiating the agreement with MLB. Having the rights provided by MLB was a cornerstone of the agreement. Directv did not want to have to find agreement with each provider and build infrastructure for OTA broadcasts. Also, it navigated the Comcast issue and had them receive Canadian feeds.

So why doesn't Directv EI provide KCAL (Vin Scully) feeds of Dodgers games or WCIU feeds of Cubs/White Sox games?




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