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2013 MLB Extra Innings Pricing Discussion


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#26 OFFLINE   stoutman

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 11:45 AM

Satelliteracer would have to answer that question.

The big difference between NHL and MLB is the requirement the teams provide an SD and HD feed in MLB.

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 12:13 PM

MLB built a state of the art broadcast center and required every team to provide an SD & HD feed to the center. The providers along with MLB.TV have rights to these feeds as part of Extra Innings.

This was part of the reforms found in the 2007 agreement. Before that time extra innings was purely remapping RSNs on Directv. Earlier in the decade I spoke with one of the Directv attorneys negotiating the agreement with MLB. Having the rights provided by MLB was a cornerstone of the agreement. Directv did not want to have to find agreement with each provider and build infrastructure for OTA broadcasts. Also, it navigated the Comcast issue and had them receive Canadian feeds.


What does this have to do with DirecTV EI being different and superior to inDemand EI?

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 12:18 PM

So why doesn't Directv EI provide KCAL (Vin Scully) feeds of Dodgers games or WCIU feeds of Cubs/White Sox games?


Contractual. They do have OTA feeds of other markets.

Anyway few Dodgers games are on KCAL anyway. Most are on FSN PT. Vinny does both KCAL and FSN home and west coast games, simulcasted on radio. Being on KCAL is no different than being on FSN

BTW, this is the last year of KCAL games anyway. All Dodgers games starting in 2014 will be on their new team owned RSN.

#29 OFFLINE   milton

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 12:26 PM

Contractual. They do have OTA feeds of other markets.

Anyway few Dodgers games are on KCAL anyway. Most are on FSN PT. Vinny does both KCAL and FSN home and west coast games, simulcasted on radio. Being on KCAL is no different than being on FSN

BTW, this is the last year of KCAL games anyway. All Dodgers games starting in 2014 will be on their new team owned RSN.

KCAL broadcast about 50 games last year so that's more than virtually any other OTA station. And this may be Vin's final season.

Anyway, you say that it's contractual. But Stoutman says "Directv did not want to have to find agreement with each provider and build infrastructure for OTA broadcasts."

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 01:02 PM

Satelliteracer would have to answer that question.

The big difference between NHL and MLB is the requirement the teams provide an SD and HD feed in MLB.


I've seen this argument posted many times, but I'm not so sure there this is the case. As I understant it, MLB's requirement merely prevents a team from withholding the rights to use their broadcasts as part of EI at any price (like what happened with MSG HD and NHL Center Ice a while back). It is my understanding that DirecTV and InDemand still have to pay for equipment and license fees in order to use the feeds, which is why (for both MLB and NHL) DirecTV gives priority to feeds from the RSN's already carried as part of DirecTV's regular lineup.

You might recall, for example, the YES dispute from a year or two ago. It was resolved without interruption, but DirecTV explicitly stated that if they had to remove YES, they would also have to remove YES from MLB EI.

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 03:22 PM

KCAL broadcast about 50 games last year so that's more than virtually any other OTA station. And this may be Vin's final season.

Anyway, you say that it's contractual. But Stoutman says "Directv did not want to have to find agreement with each provider and build infrastructure for OTA broadcasts."

They don't need to. They already have the KCAL feed and send it down via spotbeam. There is no reason they cannot send that same feed via CONUS on an EI channel

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 09:28 AM

Any new info on EI this year? I still haven't gotten a renewal e-mail...

Are we sure they aren't bundling it with MLB.TV?

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 11:18 PM

So why doesn't Directv EI provide KCAL (Vin Scully) feeds of Dodgers games or WCIU feeds of Cubs/White Sox games?


and why no WGN A HD remapping?
I want CLTV / CLTV HD on direct tv.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 02:51 PM

Pricing is out, and its either 5 payments of 39.99 or 1 payment of 199.95 for newbies

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 09:30 PM

i just got my renewal notice from DirecTV for the 2013 season:

You are all set to enjoy another exciting season of MLB EXTRA INNINGS. We are renewing you at the lowest price of 6 payments of $33.33/month...

total price for this year is $199.98, so it actually went down $9.96 this year.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 11:14 PM

Pricing is out, and its either 5 payments of 39.99 or 1 payment of 199.95 for newbies


i just got my renewal notice from DirecTV for the 2013 season:

You are all set to enjoy another exciting season of MLB EXTRA INNINGS. We are renewing you at the lowest price of 6 payments of $33.33/month...

total price for this year is $199.98, so it actually went down $9.96 this year.


So newbies get it for $199.95 and auto-renew subs get it for $199.98? The latter are being ripped off by three cents. To the penny pinchers, this is an outrage!

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 07:02 AM

If this is bundled with mlb.tv i'll get it, if not i'll stick with mlb.tv. It is by far the best of the broadband prodcuts (compared to nhl gamecenter, nba gamepass, etc.)

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 07:15 AM

If this is bundled with mlb.tv i'll get it, if not i'll stick with mlb.tv. It is by far the best of the broadband prodcuts (compared to nhl gamecenter, nba gamepass, etc.)


Well MLB.TV is available now and it makes no mention of being bundled with Extra Innings.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 07:46 AM

Well MLB.TV is available now and it makes no mention of being bundled with Extra Innings.


Damn, I was hopeful. I'll watch most games on tv but enough on tablet or phone that I need to have mlb.tv. If Directv offered the slingbox or similar that would also suffice. Oh well, maybe next year.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 07:54 AM

i just got my renewal notice from DirecTV for the 2013 season:

You are all set to enjoy another exciting season of MLB EXTRA INNINGS. We are renewing you at the lowest price of 6 payments of $33.33/month...

total price for this year is $199.98, so it actually went down $9.96 this year.



Still too expensive IMO. The price needs to be more in-line with the MLBtv product. Better PQ with EI but many, many more features with MLBtv.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 08:18 AM

I like MLB EI but with so many different viewing options with mlb.tv & the PQ improving every year, i am going with MLB.TV

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 08:55 AM

Damn, I was hopeful. I'll watch most games on tv but enough on tablet or phone that I need to have mlb.tv. If Directv offered the slingbox or similar that would also suffice. Oh well, maybe next year.


Directv doesn't need to offer a slingbox. You can get one and put it on anything. I use one all the time.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 09:26 AM

MLBTV pricing is out. $129.99 for premium. Looks like I will be dropping EI this year for this unless it is bundled in some fashion. But it doesn't look like it will be.

http://mlb.mlb.com/m...liateId=mlbMENU

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 10:08 AM

MLB TV is a much better deal and if you "auto renew", your subscription fee does not increase.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 11:22 AM

It is 119.99 for those on auto renew, However for those who want to get the triple a and other minor league team games too don't auto renew this time and choose to pay the full price and due the tack on for 20 bucks. Which brings the total to 149.99. Instead of 159.98 for both. Next year auto renew will work for both and the combine cost would be 139.99. Not sure why it didn't work that way this year. That is done by just ordering a new season now. As a result it bypasses the auto renew that is already on those accounts.

MLBTV pricing is out. $129.99 for premium. Looks like I will be dropping EI this year for this unless it is bundled in some fashion. But it doesn't look like it will be.

http://mlb.mlb.com/m...liateId=mlbMENU



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Posted 05 February 2013 - 11:30 AM

Directv doesn't need to offer a slingbox. You can get one and put it on anything. I use one all the time.


I know that, but instead of having the upfront cost of $250+ for an HD model, then having to hook it up to a receiver and rendering that receiver useless while the remote device is using it, it would be nice to have it built into the box and have the cost included in the hd-dvr fee.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 12:53 PM

I know that, but instead of having the upfront cost of $250+ for an HD model, then having to hook it up to a receiver and rendering that receiver useless while the remote device is using it, it would be nice to have it built into the box and have the cost included in the hd-dvr fee.


Nothing is free and you can get a Slingbox for a lot less that $250 with zero follow on fees.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 01:13 PM

Well just got done getting mlb extra innings for 149.99 . all you need to do is call up and ask then when they say they can't then cancel and they will work something out. I bought it for 199.99 then given a 50.00 refund.

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 02:12 PM

I must be the only one that thinks MLBEI at $200 is a steal. Just counting the 150+ games of your favorite team whoever that may be is worth that much. It works out to roughly $1.23 a game. You can't go to a three game series at the park for that. And then you add in that you have the entire schedule to choose from for a second game on a daily basis its more than fair.

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 04:48 PM

200.00 is not bad but I was credited 50.00 up front for being a great customer I keep a -500 balance at all times and wow does that help me out all the time.

Just call and see if you can get it lower.




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