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#51 OFFLINE   Mike Greer

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 01:52 PM

Given that each client gets paired to the Genie with a PIN, they don't get "confused".


I just figured there would be more code to write if there are multiple HR34/44s on the same network... Just a guess... But I do know that more code = bad thing!

What would your theory on 'One HR34/44 only rule' be?

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 02:07 PM

What would your theory on 'One HR34/44 only rule' be?

Let me just call these "thoughts":

DirecTV seems to focus on a four room/TV customer. One Genie & 3 clients.

"I suspect" supply is impacting the current limit to some degree.

DirecTV is promoting the Genie heavily these days.
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 03:14 PM

What would your theory on 'One HR34/44 only rule' be?


My first guess would be inventory availability. Back when DirecTV was doing the Mpeg-4 conversion and requiring that people move from the HR10-250, in order to keep all of their HD programming, it was very difficult to get multiple HR-2x's for a while (although they allowed people to "purchase" additional leased HR-2x's from retailers at the time).

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 04:06 PM

If it was mentioned I missed, what is going to take to be sure you get a HR44? Is it going to be like regular DVRs where to be sure you get an HR24 you have to go to Solid Signal? Or will he HR44 be in its own class? Knowing the policy of "A DVR is a DVR" I would suspect a policy of "A Genie is a Genie" to be likely
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 04:15 PM

Yes I think it will be just like that. You won't be able to get a specific model from DIRECTV.
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 04:23 PM

Local installers are DirecTV employees.
Offices are down on I-240 West of the Base, there is a big electronic sign.
They have done good work since DirecTV took over the contractor a few years ago.


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Posted 28 January 2013 - 05:52 PM

If it was mentioned I missed, what is going to take to be sure you get a HR44? Is it going to be like regular DVRs where to be sure you get an HR24 you have to go to Solid Signal? Or will he HR44 be in its own class? Knowing the policy of "A DVR is a DVR" I would suspect a policy of "A Genie is a Genie" to be likely


Stuart is correct. A genie will be a genie. With that said, the market for HR44's will have to grow. Very doubtful they will launch the HR44 across he country at the same time. Supply is, again, the biggest factor there.

I can only assume that getting an HR44 will be on the rare side until closer to third quarter based on area.

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 06:31 PM

I hope by the time i go back to directv in the fall of this year, they will offer me a free hr44 genie like they do right now with the hr 34.If not i'll just wait until they do. I'd rather have the latest tech,of course i know they may have something newer and better by then. although i hear verizons coming out with a new 6 tuner media player soon,I still want to go back to directv because of the way they do nba league pass (mainly dual feeds and all celtic games in HD) plus directv spreads the payments $29.99 over 6 months while verizon charges $44.99 over 4 months.

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 01:18 AM

Since they (stupidly) omitted the optical digital audio port on the HR34, MAYBE indicating a need for an optical output may be a way to force a HR44? Worth a shot anyway I guess, when the time comes.

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 06:39 AM

Well if SolidSignal will charge around $400 for one, I'll have to wait it out. That's too much. I'll pay $200 but not $400.

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 08:34 AM

Since they (stupidly) omitted the optical digital audio port on the HR34, MAYBE indicating a need for an optical output may be a way to force a HR44? Worth a shot anyway I guess, when the time comes.


REally? For a ten buck audio coax?? While convenient for those already with optical cables, there's no need- other than marketing (which is quite enough reason!)- for optical.
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Posted 29 January 2013 - 08:45 AM

I respectfully disagree. While you can get an adapter... optical seems to be the de facto for soundbars.
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Posted 29 January 2013 - 09:10 AM

I respectfully disagree. While you can get an adapter... optical seems to be the de facto for soundbars.


Oh, daayyaaaam! My bad: I forgot about compatibility on the other end.... Everything I have takes either, lame excuse, but I overlooked devices having only optical input.

I was thinking technically- there's no advantage to optical in for short run audio, is there?
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Posted 29 January 2013 - 09:33 AM

Oh, daayyaaaam! My bad: I forgot about compatibility on the other end.... Everything I have takes either, lame excuse, but I overlooked devices having only optical input.

I was thinking technically- there's no advantage to optical in for short run audio, is there?


Some say that they can hear a difference. I can't. Most of my stuff gives me an option and I've stuck with the optical.

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 09:37 AM

I respectfully disagree. While you can get an adapter... optical seems to be the de facto for soundbars.


Let's please not encourage them to cater to...soundbars. Yuck.
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Posted 29 January 2013 - 09:43 AM

Some say that they can hear a difference. I can't. Most of my stuff gives me an option and I've stuck with the optical.

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Heh. Some say Dish's PQ is better(!!!) So I am asking if there's a technical reason why optical - or rather, if it- is better in some way than coax.
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Posted 29 January 2013 - 09:48 AM

Heh. Some say Dish's PQ is better(!!!) So I am asking if there's a technical reason why optical - or rather, if it- is better in some way than coax.


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Q: Between optical and coaxial, which connection is going to give the better sound quality, and why?

A: " Better" is relative. In a harsh environment, optical may have advantages. By "harsh" I mean:

Cable runs over 10ft

Cable runs in close proximity to video and power cords emanating RF noise

In most cases, the above conditions would result in negligible impacts on the signal quality since the signal being transmitted (PCM or bitstream) is sampled at low frequencies (44-48KHz) and thus are more immune to noise impairments.

However, using optical cables can minimize the potential of the above mentioned problems and thus may help to reduce common mode noise. The only negative about using optical cables is the connection is not always as secure as a coax one, and can sometimes be compromised easily by moving components frequently. In addition, optical cables are usually more expensive than coax ones.

Bottom Line: Using optical cables for your digital connections may help minimize susceptibility of coupling RF noise into the line and reduce loss for long runs (10 feet or more). However, optical cables tend to be more costly and sensitive to abrupt external forces, which may potentially weaken the connection over time. In any event, either connection method should yield excellent and comparable results in most cases.


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Posted 29 January 2013 - 10:11 AM

Heh. Some say Dish's PQ is better(!!!) So I am asking if there's a technical reason why optical - or rather, if it- is better in some way than coax.


Probably a subjective argument.

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 10:13 AM

Probably a subjective argument.

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Or just read what I just posted.
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Posted 29 January 2013 - 12:13 PM

I know some techs just received the 44's and 41's this week to do more beta testing

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 07:54 PM

Let's please not encourage them to cater to...soundbars. Yuck.


Most soundbars sound much better than tv speakers. That's enough for some.

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 08:52 PM

Thanks. Better for some, not as good for other situations.
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Posted 31 January 2013 - 07:49 PM

Thanks. Better for some, not as good for other situations.


Just watched Ray Edwards demo the HR44/C41 on the latest "Must See" official training video for the field techs. posted today.

Unfortunately the release schedule the video gave for the HR44/C41 will be to select test markets in late Feb., and not nationwide until mid to late April.

So we'll just have to see about this alleged "Feb. 7" date then I guess.

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 10:08 AM

February 19th is the date set for pilot-launch - have not seend anything indicating Feb 7th - national launch will depend on how quickly they can work a majority of the bugs out.
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Posted 01 February 2013 - 10:10 AM

Good news is DTV incorporated digital coaxial and optical audio in this unit
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