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Why this is the Golden Age of television


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#26 OFFLINE   Drucifer

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 10:57 PM

This just about sums it all up...

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 08:24 AM

NBC tried a revival of "Twenty One" a few years ago, with Maury Povich as host, and it turns out it's not as entertaining without the rigging.


.... or with Mr. Povich....:lol:
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Posted 31 January 2013 - 08:40 AM

You're about 60 years late. The Golden Age of TV was the 1950s.


Your opinion, not mine. Not many of those shows pass the test of time. Watch them now and you'll see what I mean. Yeah, there were some that are still in reruns, like the Twilight Zone, but other than that show, I don't remember any others that are still watchable. I tried watching Gunsmoke and I couldn't take it. Same with Bonanza (was that a 60's program?).

I gotta agree with Tom on this. I think today's programs are much better than anything produced in the '50s.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 08:51 AM

Though weren't a lot of shows in the 50s more a continuation or redoing of radio shows? And I think we probably could replace todays reality shows with the game shows of the 50s, though I admit I don't know how many were actually rigged other than Twenty One and Dotto.


Some were continuations of radio programs. The Lone Ranger comes to mind. I think a lot of the daily soap operas migrated to TV too.

We could replace the reality shows with just about anything and I'd be happy. I do watch parts of Dancing With The Stars if it's on in another room. That's the best one I've seen and I get bored watching that.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 08:54 AM

^ Quite a few of them were, such as Dragnet, The Lone Ranger, maybe Jack Benny ......


Was Dragnet on radio? Jack Benny was and so was the ventriloquist, I can't remember his name.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 08:57 AM

Old Time Radio to TV


I didn't realize so many shows were on radio before TV. Dragnet question answered. Great link.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 09:00 AM

If you can remember watching the DuMont Network, then you can remember the Golden Age.

All of the 60's mention programs in the above posts are not from the Golden Age.


I think we had a DuMont TV. Seemed like my father went thru a whole lot of TVs from '48 and all thru the '50s.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 09:01 AM

That is a great link! Just reading that list brought back some very fond memories of listening to the radio when I was a kid!

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 09:08 AM

Was Dragnet on radio? Jack Benny was and so was the ventriloquist, I can't remember his name.

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Edgar Bergen.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 09:10 AM

Here's a link to the wiki on one of the first scifi shows back in the day.
http://en.wikipedia....s_Video_Rangers

Good writeup about this show, and also mentions the many others that were done in those very early years.

I had that ring for many, many years and can remember this show as being a 'must see' for me and my family at the time, along with Tom Corbett.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 09:10 AM

phrelin- Very nice summary. Treatise, perhaps!


I didn't get the lack of violent shows in the '50s. Looking back, The Lone Ranger had a lot of very violent fight scenes as did all the westerns. At the time, I thought it was plausible for two guys to take on twenty guys and win. As I grew older, I found out the hard way that what I saw on TV had little to do with reality. Disappointed, I was, and bruised and battered....:lol:

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 09:11 AM

Edgar Bergen.


And I think his dummy was Charlie McCarthy, or am I misremembering?

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 09:14 AM

That is a great link! Just reading that list brought back some very fond memories of listening to the radio when I was a kid!


I remember all the grown ups putting on finery and gathering in our home to watch the radio. Kinda creepy. They would all just sit and stare at the radio.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 09:18 AM

Edgar Bergen.


Thanx, he was also Candice Bergen's father. The puppet he used was Charlie McCarthy.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 09:21 AM

And I think his dummy was Charlie McCarthy, or am I misremembering?


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Posted 31 January 2013 - 09:25 AM

Here's a link to the wiki on one of the first scifi shows back in the day.
http://en.wikipedia....s_Video_Rangers

Good writeup about this show, and also mentions the many others that were done in those very early years.

I had that ring for many, many years and can remember this show as being a 'must see' for me and my family at the time, along with Tom Corbett.


The guy who played Captain Video really wrecked his career by playing that part. I remember reading how hard it was for him to get a job after the show ran it's course. First case of stereotyping I ever heard of.

Tom Corbett, Space Cadet was a good show too. The books were better, but that's usually the case.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 09:25 AM

I didn't get the lack of violent shows in the '50s. Looking back, The Lone Ranger had a lot of very violent fight scenes as did all the westerns.


Not necessarily less violent, but less graphic. Westerns and cop shows had a lot of shooting, but didn't show blood splattering and body parts flying. I remember a statement somewhere that at one time they could show the shot fired and the subject down, but couldn't show the moment of impact.


The one thing I find unbelievable in Lawman is some of the women. I don't imagine too many female saloonkeepers in the old west looked like Lily Merrill (Peggy Castle).


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Posted 31 January 2013 - 09:31 AM

Not necessarily less violent, but less graphic. Westerns and cop shows had a lot of shooting, but didn't show blood splattering and body parts flying. I remember a statement somewhere that at one time they could show the shot fired and the subject down, but couldn't show the moment of impact.


It was the fights that got me. I really thought that was real.


The one thing I find unbelievable in Lawman is some of the women. I don't imagine too many female saloonkeepers in the old west looked like Lily Merrill (Peggy Castle).


I thought Miss Kitty on Gunsmoke was appropriate at the time, but that show does not seem to stand the test of time very well and that was one of my very favorite shows.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 09:58 AM

The guy who played Captain Video really wrecked his career by playing that part. I remember reading how hard it was for him to get a job after the show ran it's course. First case of stereotyping I ever heard of.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 10:16 AM

I remember all the grown ups putting on finery and gathering in our home to watch the radio. Kinda creepy. They would all just sit and stare at the radio.

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There was a lot more going on than that. Listeners, using their own respective imaginations, were busy creating imagery on the screens of their minds, of the action and descriptions they were hearing on the radio -- or, at least, I was. Too bad tv has diminished the need for that ability.

We gathered, yes, but I don't recall anyone donning their "finery" for the event. As I recall, it was a 'come as you are' happening.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 11:08 AM

Thanx, he was also Candice Bergen's father. The puppet he used was Charlie McCarthy.


Charlie McCarthy is the character Edgar Bergen is most associated with, but he had a couple of others, most notably Mortimer Snerd.

Candice Bergen has claimed that, when she was growing up, Charlie McCarthy had a bigger "bedroom" than she did. :D
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Posted 31 January 2013 - 12:22 PM

Do you mean 'typecasting'?


Meant stereotyped. From dictionary.com: to characterize or regard as a stereotype: The actor has been stereotyped as a villain.

I should have used "typecasting", would have been clearer, but all I could think of at the time was "stereotyping", which, while not wrong, is not as clear as typecasting.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 12:41 PM

There was a lot more going on than that. Listeners, using their own respective imaginations, were busy creating imagery on the screens of their minds, of the action and descriptions they were hearing on the radio -- or, at least, I was. Too bad tv has diminished the need for that ability.


I know. I was doing the same thing.

We gathered, yes, but I don't recall anyone donning their "finery" for the event. As I recall, it was a 'come as you are' happening.


I lived for the first 6 years of my life in Newark, NJ, in a German neighborhood which kinda had a dress code for gatherings. Suits, vests and ties for the men, dresses and hats for the women. Obviously, a different cultural experience.

Newark was like a mini NYC at that time. No problems walking the streets at night. Nice place to go to the movies and stuff like that. I even have a picture of my grandfather and great uncle and I on a fishing boat and both of them had only taken their suit jackets off. Both were fishing in dress slacks, white dress shirts and ties.

Then, my father bought a house in a small town on Raritan Bay in NJ. What a difference! Nobody visited anybody in the manner they did in Newark. Everybody was buying TVs and stayed home to watch them. Took me a while to adapt.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 12:44 PM

Charlie McCarthy is the character Edgar Bergen is most associated with, but he had a couple of others, most notably Mortimer Snerd.


Ah! I thought it was Mortimer Snerd. Could not remember the name.

Candice Bergen has claimed that, when she was growing up, Charlie McCarthy had a bigger "bedroom" than she did. :D


I read some of the things she said about growing up and it sounded like a rivalry between her and the puppets.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 06:06 PM

I don't know if this is a classic, but it sure is ancient ;)

Jack Lord's Stoney Burke coming to DVD

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