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News Corp to end Speed and Fuel Channels, convert them to Fox Sports


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#81 OFFLINE   donalddickerson2005

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 02:26 PM

Oh. So. Wrong.

Their rights are regional.

They do have national cable rights to some games in the next deal.

I hope though that they will show more than 1 game on Saturday afternoon now. Put the main game on fox and then 2 others on fox 1-2.

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#82 OFFLINE   alnielsen

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 02:33 PM

On the bright side, neither ESPN nor Fox Sports have not gone down the Reality Road and replaced their main programming with that crap.

Yet.

Speed (a part of Fox Sports) has.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 03:17 PM

Similar to branding in Australia and New Zealand. One has to wonder if we will see international sport from the Fox owned Sky Sports and Fox Sports networks overseas. That will really make things interesting and worth it a 80 cents per channel.


Probably ... Fuel had Rugby this morning.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by tulanejosh
I don't think he's missing your point. You pay for channels you don't watch and implied that another model or provider was maybe more in line with your viewing habits. He's pointing out that the situation exists regardless of what it is that you actually want to watch - some one us always going to pay for something they don't want... Even on Netflix.


The last time I checked, Netflix was not charging me $90+ a month for their programming. Netflix only charges me $8. And I actually liked their new show House of Cards!

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 03:42 PM

Oh. So. Wrong.

Their rights are regional.

They do have national cable rights to some games in the next deal.


The writers for Multichannel News are generally ignorant on many things. They usually just rewrite press releases.

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 03:43 PM

The last time I checked, Netflix was not charging me $100+ a month for their programming. Netflix only charges me $8. And I actually liked their new show House of Cards!

Unlike the networks, Netflix doesn't have to fund the development of shows from the start. Not every new show is a success, even shows that don't make it past pilot still cost money since the actors, writers and crew still need to get paid for filming the rejected pilot.

Now if Netflix decides to start actively developing shows from the scratch like the networks do (complete with rejected pilots and failed shows that do get picked up but get cancelled after 2-3 episodes), instead of just picking up shows that were further along in the process like House of Cards, or already established shows with a known cult following like Arrested Development, there's no way that $8 a month subscription will fund that and the license fees for acquired movies and programming from other networks.

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 03:45 PM

Probably ... Fuel had Rugby this morning.


Rugby league, which FOX already has the rights to.

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 03:56 PM

The last time I checked, Netflix was not charging me $90+ a month for their programming. Netflix only charges me $8. And I actually liked their new show House of Cards!


In other words, it is not paying for things you don't watch, it is the price of things you don't watch, which, I think was a point a few posts back.

And been my point all along. Nobody cares if the channel they don't watch costs 2 cents. It is when it costs 5 bucks and probably impacts your bill when we care.

It is not a la carte that people care about, it is how much money they are spending.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 03:59 PM

Maybe fox can pick up the cricket ticket and put it on fox sports 1-2

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 04:46 PM

The last time I checked, Netflix was not charging me $90+ a month for their programming. Netflix only charges me $8. And I actually liked their new show House of Cards!


Right - so I think you are missing my point. Like i said, based on what you are now saying, it's not really about whether or not you are paying for content you don't want, it's about what you bill total is.

And you know, just putting this out there, Cable and Satellite were at one point cheaper as well. It's not like Netflix or (insert alt company here) is going to be immune from price hikes forever. So in your own words - good luck! But i gotta ask, what are you going to do when Netflix has to start charging market rate?

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 04:59 PM

ESPN charges about $8 a month. Fox Sports will be about $1.60 for the both of their channels. That is quite a bargain!

I don't know about now but in 1999-2000 our local cable company (Century Norwich Cable, Century Communications) was paying >$1/subscriber.

From Jan. '98 to Apr. '00 the per subscriber cost of ESPN (again Century Norwich Cable) increased 43%. At that rate it could easily be approaching $8/sub.

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 04:59 PM

It's too bad DirecTV doesn't move ALL the sports channels into a sports tier like cable and reduce the package prices for those of us who never watch them (me).

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 05:02 PM

It's too bad DirecTV doesn't move ALL the sports channels into a sports tier like cable and reduce the package prices for those of us who never watch them (me).


What cable companies put ESPN in a sports tier?
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 06:19 PM

[QUOTE But i gotta ask, what are you going to do when Netflix has to start charging market rate?[/QUOTE]


When it gets up to $90 a month in 40 years, I will cancel it.

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 06:26 PM


How about when you ISP begins to cap your downloads?
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 06:37 PM

How about when you ISP begins to cap your downloads?


+1. This is the bigger concern.

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 07:16 PM

Fox might make the right moves to unseat ESPN, but not with Regis. No disrespect, but 90% of ESPN viewers wouldn't be able to identify him unless maybe Who Wants To Be a Millionaire returns to prime time without Meredith Viera.

Fox might want some more firepower to take on Entertainment & Sports Programming Network!


Did they learn from when they tried this in 1997 and failed. Guess Fox will keep trying until they get it right.

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 07:17 PM

It's too bad DirecTV doesn't move ALL the sports channels into a sports tier like cable and reduce the package prices for those of us who never watch them (me).


If they do this, they would need to group all the channels into categories. My cable company tried this done years ago and it was expensive to order the channels you wanted.

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 07:25 PM

It's too bad DirecTV doesn't move ALL the sports channels into a sports tier like cable and reduce the package prices for those of us who never watch them (me).


I think that DIRECTV would be happy to do this if they could. There are channels, like ESPN, that if a distributor tried to move into a separate tier, the channel would laugh and say, "No". And should the distributor then drop the channel, they might as well shut down the company.

Since ESPN, CNN, and a few others won't move, the distributors have no choice. Those channels are still too important to distributors.

In fact, perhaps the only way it could happen would be a whole new distributor who could build a model entirely around not having those channels and plan the infrastructure accordingly. That might be the only way for a breakthrough to occur.

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 07:28 PM

+1. This is the bigger concern.


I'm not so sure. Cable internet margins are off the chart according to this:

http://bgr.com/2013/...margins-316532/

A cable company can make $50+ per house for high speed internet alone over the wires that they are currently making $50 per house for providing TV, and having to pay retransmit fees for the programming, reducing their margins. Of course for Netflicks and streaming options, you NEED premium high speed offerings at higher cost.:grin:




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