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Get the HR34 or wait for the HR44??


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#26 OFFLINE   Scott Kocourek

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 06:51 PM

Engadget or The Verge were given a demo at CES and told the processor in the 44 was faster and they saw menu navigation being faster.


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#27 OFFLINE   inkahauts

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 10:59 PM

AFAIK its like having an internal wireless CCK capability;

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At this time that's exactly what it is.

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 02:47 AM

People will be looking at the HR-44 reports and saying look at all the problems it has. It comes with the new/advanced products and through growing pains, testing and tweaking, they will smooth out. Just as they have been doing with the HR-34s.

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 03:33 AM

I would just go for the HR34 now. Its a great box and pretty stable now. FINALLY! As others have said. The HR44 will be buggy like all new boxes and go through growing pains. Then all the whining and crying will commence how much they hate it.

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 06:50 PM

i would agree go with the 34, we havent even started the beta test and i can tell ya this with every other beta tests there are always problems and bugs. Theres already a bug, testing has been bumped a week because of manufacturing delays. Go with a 34, the bugs have been all worked out and its a very smooth running machine.
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 07:45 PM

I've been testing the HR44 for about three weeks now not much different then the 34 smaller then the Hr24 I haven't seen any major bugs with it at all the 41 had quite bugs at first but seems to be working pretty well now and the pilot starts the Tuesday the 19th

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 07:54 PM

Go with the 34.

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 08:04 PM

We been testing the 44 here as well, co worker found several bugs with the 44 as well as the 41. Our shop just got training on it last week, since it was suppose to go into beta this coming wednesday but it got push till next week. As soon as it goes into beta in our market I'm calling for a service call on myself and switching my 34 for the 44. It goes live in mid or early april (this is what they told us, dont quote me on this). I will try to keep both my 34 and 44, hopefully they let me since I know several people that have them.

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 08:41 AM

So our two year commitment is about over and my wife has been bugging me that she would like the 5 tuner capability that is now present in the HR34.

I presently have:

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  • D12-100

I have read through all of the threads on people saying "wait for the 44" vs "just get the 34, it's the same thing minus wireless" and clearly it isn't. I know the remote is different with the HR44 and the power brick is external on the 44 - again, I don't really care about either of those things. Have a look at this video around the 3:25 mark:

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The speed of the guide paging is something key that I'm after. I can't imagine DTV would release an upgraded system with only an external brick and wireless and not upgrade the processor. I want to have this sort of speed when paging through the menu. The lag that is shown on the HR34 on this video will drive me insane and it's even present on my HR24 vs the H24 that I have. The latter is *much* faster with paging.

I had an appointment with MultiBand (who is the DTV subcontractor for my part of Michigan) this morning to refresh my hardware and they informed me that the 44 is still not available and is in beta test only right now. So, I had to either take the 34 or cancel the order so I ended up doing the latter. As long as we've waited for the 34, I don't mind waiting another month or so for the 44. It will frost me, however, if I get the 34 and then a few weeks the 44 comes out and everyone raves how much faster it is especially with the menu paging.

Hopefully I made the right decision in waiting. :confused:

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 09:31 AM

Since you are in Michigan, you might want to contact Signal Installs when it becomes available. They are part of the company that owns Solid Signal. You would have to pay for it (unless DirecTV agrees to a credit), but you'll be guaranteed a 44, and at least based on the installers Multiband uses around here, probably a better experience.

http://www.signalins....com/index.html

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 10:04 AM

In your quest just a reminder a HR34 or HR44 is the HR20 of tomorrow.

If you want something get it- if not wait tomorrow always brings something else (example) iphone --------Now iphone 5 windoes 3.1-win-8 - it's all Teckno junk :lol:
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 10:14 AM

Yeah, I get it. :lol:

The proof is in the pudding though with that video and seeing the menu paging. That, at least to me, makes it worth the wait especially if that is an accurate representation with the HR34 with latest firmware. :eek2:

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 10:18 AM

My guide on my hr34 moves just as fast as that video of the hr44.

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 10:19 AM

So, first I've heard of that, then. Can anyone else with a HR34 confirm or alternatively validate the video?

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 10:29 AM

Since you are in Michigan, you might want to contact Signal Installs when it becomes available. They are part of the company that owns Solid Signal. You would have to pay for it (unless DirecTV agrees to a credit), but you'll be guaranteed a 44, and at least based on the installers Multiband uses around here, probably a better experience.

http://www.signalins....com/index.html


Thanks for the shoutout. Signal Connect (we changed from Signal Installs about a year ago) would be happy to help. Same web site or http://www.signalconnect.com

My guide on my hr34 moves just as fast as that video of the hr44.


I think there's some confusion as to how that video comparison was made. I didn't just hold down the button and wait for it to start scrolling on its own. That would have been faster in both cases. I started with the same RC65 remote from the same distance and pushed the page down button as fast as I could. If you just hold down the button the HR44 scrolls so fast you can barely see what's flying past.

So, first I've heard of that, then. Can anyone else with a HR34 confirm or alternatively validate the video?


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Posted 21 February 2013 - 10:34 AM

I would PM you, however the site won't let me since I am a new user. My reply was:

So thank you - I certainly would value your opinion. One thing that drives me insane about the HR24 that we have right now is that when we're in the guide and are rapidly hitting page up/down (i.e. not holding either button down) there is a lag before the next page is displayed. On the H24 we have, this lag is not there - at all.

My main concern is the ability to have 5 tuners, and to make that paging lag disappear. If is it not present in the HR34, then it is something Id consider, however after viewing your video and watching you do what you described, the continued lag will drive me crazy.

Any idea when we'll see the HR44 available in Michigan?

Thanks!

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 10:37 AM

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 10:47 AM

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 11:19 AM

I would PM you, however the site won't let me since I am a new user. My reply was:

So thank you - I certainly would value your opinion. One thing that drives me insane about the HR24 that we have right now is that when we're in the guide and are rapidly hitting page up/down (i.e. not holding either button down) there is a lag before the next page is displayed. On the H24 we have, this lag is not there - at all.

My main concern is the ability to have 5 tuners, and to make that paging lag disappear. If is it not present in the HR34, then it is something Id consider, however after viewing your video and watching you do what you described, the continued lag will drive me crazy.

Any idea when we'll see the HR44 available in Michigan?

Thanks!


If you think the HR24 is slow to page up/down I've got a HR22 you'd love! Ok - I don't have the HR22s anymore because they were much slower than the HR24 and I couldn't take it anymore.

It sounds like the HR24 is slower than you'd like and by most accounts here (I don't have one) the HR34 is slower than the HR24 but faster than the HR21/22/23s.

My advice would be to wait - especially since you already canceled! No reason to buy-in with something slower than you already don't like the speed of. You may also want to see the HR44 in action before you commit.... I'd say there is a pretty good chance (almost a certainty) that the HR44 will still be slower than your H24. Better to know ahead of time than be surprised 10 minutes after the installer leaves.

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 11:28 AM

What's the big deal about scrolling as fast as video shows? You can't read what's flying by that fast.
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 11:40 AM

It's my preference.

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 11:41 AM

What's the big deal about scrolling as fast as video shows? You can't read what's flying by that fast.


I don't think it is about having to read everything flying by.... It is the general responsiveness of the receiver.

Some people are just peachy with the speed of even the HR21/22/23s but others (like me!) get annoyed having to slow down to avoid over/undershooting what you are trying to click on....

A good example is just going to the guide and seeing something you want to record down three lines and over 2 spots... You should be able to hit down-down-down-right-right-record without having to wait for the receiver to catch up. If you want to record a series by hitting record twice you shouldn't have to wonder and/or wait for the DoubleRRs to show up.

I expect and suspect that it is easier to do this simple example on the HR44 than on the HR34... At least I hope that will be the case.

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 11:42 AM

Thank you for providing an example for that which I didn't feel like putting into words :)

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 11:50 AM

My bill went up by $15 for the same package this month.

So I either wait for the HR44 or jump on a Comcast deal and save a lot of money with a double play promo.

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 11:55 AM

I don't think it is about having to read everything flying by.... It is the general responsiveness of the receiver.

Some people are just peachy with the speed of even the HR21/22/23s but others (like me!) get annoyed having to slow down to avoid over/undershooting what you are trying to click on....

A good example is just going to the guide and seeing something you want to record down three lines and over 2 spots... You should be able to hit down-down-down-right-right-record without having to wait for the receiver to catch up. If you want to record a series by hitting record twice you shouldn't have to wonder and/or wait for the DoubleRRs to show up.

I expect and suspect that it is easier to do this simple example on the HR44 than on the HR34... At least I hope that will be the case.


Response speed isn't what's displayed in the video ... How fast the guide flies was. I just set a Series Pass on a 34 with the Double R and it appeared immediately. I did down-down-down-right-right-record and there was no waiting.
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