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Turned off Genie

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#26 OFFLINE   toobs



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Posted 21 February 2013 - 12:16 PM

It's too hard to drop shows from the Genie.

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 06:05 PM

Mt Cat useed to sleep on the TV now he parks himself in front on my flat screen but only in the winter. Luckliey he's asleep and does not block the screen & he's black as coal.

And back on topic I am waiting for the HR-44 to be available from Solidsignal but when I do have one, I will probably turn off Genie.

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 08:17 AM

Where is the option to turn "genie" off?

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 09:05 AM

Where is the option to turn "genie" off?

In "TV Shows".

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 11:30 AM

Never wanted to use it.
Back with the TiVo version? hated it

I can decide what I want to watch

First thing I did with every TiVo was turn off Suggestions. Like you, I know what I want to see.

IIRC, Suggestions was one of the least liked and used TiVo options.


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Posted 22 February 2013 - 11:35 AM

We had a kitten last year that insisted on squeezing under / behind the flat screen. Now she can't!

She was probably looking for the rest of the picture. Every cat I've had looked at the back of TVs with great curiosity. The only dog I've ever seen do that is the Westie I have now. I also had cats that would try to catch tennis balls during tennis matches.


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Posted 22 February 2013 - 03:53 PM

Had it on for about 3 weeks and what very little that showed up during that time was of no interest whatsoever to me. Don't see much chance of it ever being truly relevant either without an actual USER controlled like/dislike system...

That was what Tivo tried to do; it used fuzzy logic to try to suggest stuff that you had voted thumbs up and not suggest stuff you had voted thumbs down.

But it didn't work very well. Mine kept recording Barney every day from PBS (never watched it prior, never record kids shows). Seinfeld once referenced this when George Costanza kept getting porn suggestions from his Tivo, and some comic once said he was sure that his Tivo thought he was gay due to the Bravo shows it suggested. It also is rumored to have made the system crash more often.

The problem with trying to do that is the algorithm. How sophisticated can it really be? If it uses "smart" suggestions based on program similarity, it is doomed to failure, especially if you have ever wasted time checking out "if you like this you might like...", which is usually way off the mark. Do I like Continuum because I like sci-fi and therefore it should suggest more sci-fi, or do I watch it because it has Rachel Nichols on it, and it should suggest more Rachel Nichols programs (please suggest more!)? There is no way for it to know why we watch what we watch, so there is no way for it to infer suggestions that make sense.

The other problem is that the abilities of Genie pale by comparison to the abilities of the Hopper. A server/client model that has an effective commercial killer and prime time anytime technology greatly trumps a server/client model that can only make lame suggestions. DTV is hoping that most people won't know the difference. Good luck with that.

Edited by TomCat, 22 February 2013 - 05:16 PM.

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