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California: Sales tax on receiver fee(s)?


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#1 OFFLINE   trainman

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 11:35 AM

The sales tax line item on my February bill is $0.54 -- that's 9% of $6.00, which would seem to indicate that the tax is being charged on my receiver fee.

In January, and on every bill prior to that, the sales tax line item was $0.00.

I didn't make any changes to my account in the past month.

Is this a case of California sales tax law having changed, a case of DirecTV's interpretation of California sales tax law having changed, or an error?
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 10:49 PM

i have had this fee since i joined in 2008 and i'm in the Los Angeles area.

it really is not that bad as i'm sure most people are paying more in taxes for satellite.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 12:05 PM

I am charged a whopping $.98 in sales tax....compare that to the $5-10 in taxes and FCC fees I was paying when I had TV service with Comcast and I'm happy :D (funny now that I only have Comcast internet, there are NO taxes/fees :lol:)

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 12:28 PM

My sales tax on the whole bill

Sales Tax $7.04

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 12:44 PM

i have had this fee since i joined in 2008 and i'm in the Los Angeles area.


Hmm, sounds like they must have been doing a complete audit on people's accounts when they started charging the RSN fee, then. :D Thanks.
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Posted 25 February 2013 - 11:19 AM

The sales tax line item on my February bill is $0.54 -- that's 9% of $6.00, which would seem to indicate that the tax is being charged on my receiver fee.

In January, and on every bill prior to that, the sales tax line item was $0.00.

I didn't make any changes to my account in the past month.

Is this a case of California sales tax law having changed, a case of DirecTV's interpretation of California sales tax law having changed, or an error?



I don't know if this is California-specific, but I did notice that in the last month or so, the internal billing shows a tax charge for the primary receiver, but then when the credit is issued against it to make it free, it's sans tax credit. This is definitely a new thing.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 06:55 PM

Same here in Arizona - the bill that just came shows 55 cents as sales tax, which was never charged before.

More important though - DTV charged me twice for the "Advanced Receiver-DVR Monthly" fee of $10.00, which used to be credited back to me. Guess I will play CSR roulette tomorrow...

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 06:57 PM

No longer crediting the tax of the primary receiver is new, due to new tax laws.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 07:59 PM

We just had a close call on voting for taxes on satellite here in Illinois, Just because comcrap was doing it and encouraging politicians to do the same to us, But unfortunately I'm paying comcrap Internet sales tax and my huge state tax on my sprint bill.

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 08:27 AM

We just had a close call on voting for taxes on satellite here in Illinois, Just because comcrap was doing it and encouraging politicians to do the same to us, But unfortunately I'm paying comcrap Internet sales tax and my huge state tax on my sprint bill.


You shouldn't be paying sales tax on your Comcast internet service. Federal law forbids taxes on internet service. Do you have basic TV service on your Comcast account to qualify for a lower rate for internet service? That would be taxed.

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 08:32 AM

My sales tax on the whole bill

Sales Tax $7.04


Same here in PA, We pay 6% Sales tax on the whole bill.

$7.98 is what I pay per month with the package and equipment I have in my Signature.

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 08:51 AM

You shouldn't be paying sales tax on your Comcast internet service. Federal law forbids taxes on internet service. Do you have basic TV service on your Comcast account to qualify for a lower rate for internet service? That would be taxed.


Are you sure about this? I have standalone Internet service from BrightHouse in Orlando and there is "State Sales Tax" on the bill.

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 08:52 AM

No longer crediting the tax of the primary receiver is new, due to new tax laws.


Yeah, I questioned it and all I was told was to contact my state legislature lol. Started in January where they quit crediting the tax on the primary receiver. How do you charge tax on something that is credited back? Its a zero balance to charge tax on. I dont get it.

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 08:55 AM

Yeah, I questioned it and all I was told was to contact my state legislature lol. Started in January where they quit crediting the tax on the primary receiver. How do you charge tax on something that is credited back? Its a zero balance to charge tax on. I dont get it.


Some states have D* charge a "Use Tax Adjustment" when placing the order on the value of the free standard installation. It's not charged when there is an install few since the tax is already calculated.

In Florida I noticed the "Communications Service Tax" is now missing...

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 09:16 AM

Are you sure about this? I have standalone Internet service from BrightHouse in Orlando and there is "State Sales Tax" on the bill.

I have Blue Ridge Communications in PA and have Internet only, and I have NO taxes as well.

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 09:34 AM

I have Blue Ridge Communications in PA and have Internet only, and I have NO taxes as well.


Is there a modem fee on your charges...or just pure Internet charge?

I'm wondering if they are collecting sales tax on the modem fee that appears on the BH bill.

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 09:38 AM

Is there a modem fee on your charges...or just pure Internet charge?

I'm wondering if they are collecting sales tax on the modem fee that appears on the BH bill.

No its just one charge

The Price of my G10 service is $57.95 and thats what I get charged, They provide the modem as well.

Now when we had Phone service and TV service there was a State sales tax, Township Tax ,Fcc tax and 911 fee, Its was about $15 added to a $169 bill.

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 05:51 PM

In Florida I noticed the "Communications Service Tax" is now missing...


Not here, $20.02 on my latest bill

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 06:01 PM

In Florida I noticed the "Communications Service Tax" is now missing...


Not here, $20.02 on my latest bill


I was about to say... a whole lot of subscribers in Florida must be doing backflips of joy :lol:

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 06:18 PM

Yeah, I questioned it and all I was told was to contact my state legislature lol. Started in January where they quit crediting the tax on the primary receiver. How do you charge tax on something that is credited back? Its a zero balance to charge tax on. I dont get it.


Simple.

D* charges you a $6.00 usage fee.
The state taxes the usage fee.
D* separately credits you back the $6.00 for the primary receiver, but the state still taxes you for using the receiver. That's because you're still using the receiver for that month. You didn't revoke a sale and return the product. You got a separate credit back that happens to match the value of the primary receiver's lease fee. D* COULD extend their credit to also cover the tax, but almost nobody else does that, so D* has stopped doing that. I don't think the state cares who pays for the tax, but maybe some states have forbidden the provider from paying it. It could also be that D* paying the tax was a temporary measure to "ease the pain."

Now when you cancel service, you do not get taxed on the full $6 for that last month, since D* will prorate the usage fee for that month.

In NY, we only get taxed on the lease fees. We never got a credit for it.

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 12:13 AM

It's similar to buying a cell phone or anything else that has a discount, you pay tax on full retail not subsidized value. EX. Buy a cell phone that has a full price of $500 but for new contract they give it to you free you pay tax on the $500. Honestly, I don't understand why they don't tax the receivers new customers get too since they show full price then minus any discounts for the freebies.

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 03:52 AM

You shouldn't be paying sales tax on your Comcast internet service. Federal law forbids taxes on internet service. Do you have basic TV service on your Comcast account to qualify for a lower rate for internet service? That would be taxed.


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Posted 04 March 2013 - 09:07 AM

Costco charges (around here anyhow) full sales tax on pre-discounted price.

Makes a little difference sometimes, I am near a state border and the states have slightly different sales tax rates, Costco being in the higher of the two, and a nice little midsiz BB in the cheaper of the 2, and I do comparison shop.

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 01:02 AM

I live in Texas and see this new tax on the primary receiver. I'm not sure if it's billing gitch or not, because I'm not aware of any new "usage tax" or tax law changes here. It coincides with the price increase in February.

I always thought it was a joke to see this as a line item on the bill anyway. If the first receiver is really free, than it's free....period. What's with the fake charge and then the credit? It should either not be on the bill at all or simply say Primary receiver - $0.00. Any other receivers on the account would each show the $6 mirror fee plus taxes.

I suppose by leaving the charge and credit on there, they can simply take away the credit in the future and start charging everyone for the primary receiver. Just another slick move to increase the price your paying without raising the package prices.....

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 12:42 AM

so to continue my post, they have doubled my tax for this bill. i now pay $0.96 in tax, they added tax to the primary receiver.

my bill went up $5.48 which includes the $2 Lakers fee, will probably double next year to add the Dodgers fee.

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