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#26 OFFLINE   fluffybear

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 06:02 PM

I was routing for Danica Patrick


I suspect many people were!

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#27 OFFLINE   James Long

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 06:27 PM

She did well. Her fans should be happy. And she beat her boyfriend and fellow rookie of the year candidate.

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 06:41 AM

Yeah, there's been a lot of coverage of Danica. But I also remember there being constant coverage of Junior - and he's won one race in how many years driving premium equipment?

That's not to denigrate Dale Jr. - just to put in some perspective. Right or wrong, he gets coverage because he's popular. Well, Danica is in that same boat.

And there HAVE been women crew members. You might remember Shawna Robinson from some years ago (ran the #49 for BAM Racing in what was then Nextel Cup for a couple of years). When BAM went belly up, she eventually got a part-time Truck gig and they had one race (in texas if memory serves) with an all-female over-the-wall crew. Shawna later said she wasn't fond of that "publicity stunt".

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 01:01 PM

I find the "Freight Train" style races to be very boring. The only time a driver gets a little out of line is to get some air to cool the engine. I guess it's kind of exciting when a driver makes the mistake of getting to far out of line and gets shuffled back a dozen or more places, but that doesn't happen to often. Yesterday, I was far more interested in the pit stop times than any action, or lack there of, happening on the track.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 05:33 AM

When they were strung out in a single file about 25 cars in length.... Well, THAT I found boring. You *at least* have to be 2-wide to have something interesting going on.

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 05:51 PM

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 06:21 PM

Anyone having a problem with Raceview besides me ?

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 12:49 AM

Not a bad weekend for racing ... and it looks like the honeymoon is over for Ms Racer. :)

They still have to figure out that "Drivers start your engines" thing.

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 10:04 AM

whos the favorite for Bristol??

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 11:22 AM

I think Kyle Bush or Tony Stewart will win at Bristol this weekend coming up.
Danica will either be many laps behind or wrecked before it is over.
I do like Danica and want her to do well but I just don't think she is the fighter necessary for a track like this.

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 01:59 PM

I doubt Stewart will win. SHR is probably the worst performer with the Gen 6 car of all the multi car teams.

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 03:53 PM

This is true, however, this is a half mile track, almost like a dirt track and that is Tony's kind of fun. I think this race will be more driver performance and less car performance than we have had to this point.

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 05:08 PM

I like Tony as well but this isnt his type of track and I would be very surprised if he won there, Kyle Busch is always tough at this track as is Jeff gordon

Im thinkin Brad may pull it off again.

I been to the nite race twice and and Im goin again in august!!

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 12:29 PM

I like Tony as well but this isnt his type of track and I would be very surprised if he won there, Kyle Busch is always tough at this track as is Jeff gordon

Im thinkin Brad may pull it off again.

I been to the nite race twice and and Im goin again in august!!


If you can get there by Thursday be sure to go about 50 miles south of Bristol for the show at the best dirt track I've ever been to, Volunteer Speedway in Bulls Gap. You won't be disappointed.

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 04:21 PM

we will be there tuesday-------Ill have to look it up


always a good time there

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 02:20 PM

Anybody else seeing horrible PQ on Fox's race coverage today? I don't think it's a local issue...the commercials look fine. The race coverage looks like upconverted SD at best. Really fuzzy.

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 04:53 PM

Its a shame Denny Hamlin was injured in the last lap crash. Looks like he will be out for awhile. I must have jinxed him because I chose him to win in my pool and my picks usually have something happen in the last few laps.

I sense Logano's peers are losing patience with him.

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 04:58 PM

Its a shame Denny Hamlin was injured in the last lap crash. Looks like he will be out for awhile. I must have jinxed him because I chose him to win in my pool and my picks usually have something happen in the last few laps.

I sense Logano's peers are losing patience with him.


Funny thing, I was actually hoping Logano would pull off the win right up until the moment he hit Hamlin. That was just stupid. I get that it's the last lap and all, but he didn't have to hit him that hard. He had plenty of room to work with. I've seen countless drivers in that situation wiggle a little and fall in behind the other car. He had ample room to do that.

Now, the Tony Stewart thing...I'm a fan of Tony, but he's just wrong this time. Logano was just doing what had to be done. He was barely staying behind Kyle heading to the line.

As a Junior fan, I was just glad to see him rocket through the field in the last 10 or so laps. A few minutes before, I thought his day was done.

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 05:05 PM

Anyone who expected Joey and Denny to finish those last two laps was overly optimistic. The leaders wreck and the third car wins. And there's a fight. Shades of Daytona '79.

Denny was on Race Hub tonight (voice only). It is a shame that he got hurt and it appears that he will be out a few races (similar to Dale Jr and his concussion last year). We all like a good race ... and beating and banging door to door for the victory doesn't happen as often as it did in the past. But it isn't good when someone gets hurt and ruins their year. It was good hard racing. Both cars wrecked. If there were a safer barrier Denny would have been better off.

As far as Joey ... I have to agree with Roger Penske. Joey didn't do anything wrong to Denny or Smoke.

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 08:37 PM

Didn't Greg Moore die from a roof impact first crash in a similar location at Fontana?
Much more violent wreck, but still a broken back isn't fun.
I can't believe they don't pad those inside walls. At least they finally
got an exciting finish at that track.

Usually that is the most boring track in America. Maybe the world.
And if you sit up high where you can see good, the restrooms are 10 stories down a narrow metal scaffolding.
I went one year when the temperature was 106. I turn down free tickets every year after that.

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 04:23 AM

Speaking of not going back to attend a race, did you notice the race at Bristol the stands were half empty?

I think the local hotels charging $400 per night has something to do with it.

I have never been to a race, but have looked at prices a few times and the accomodation costs killed the idea for me every time.

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 04:56 AM

On Tony Stewart: Disclaimer - Tony's my favorite driver. I think what Tony was incensed about was that he had started passing Logano and Logano kept coming down. In other words, Logano's block was later than it should have been (Tony's splitter was passing Logano's bumper). He was literally running Stewart into the grass. Tony had to do more than just "check up" because he lost NINETEEN spots and THAT was what he was REALLY mad about. He went from 3rd to 22nd.

Seeing that bleep-riddled interview was priceless.

Bristol.. Man, I though the Cup race was a Busch race from the 1990s it was so empty. They CLAIM there were over 100,000 there but given that many whole section looked to be at 5-10% occupied, I can't see how that was true. they must be including giveaway tickets that never got used in that total.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 03:07 PM

Lets not forget Tony always wants others to do what he says not what he does
'DEGA 2012-------He is one of the best blockers their is and when he doesnt get his way he is known to get upset------read the article about him in Australia last year midget racing, he was asked to leave the country and did so with a black eye.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 03:46 PM

I think what Tony was incensed about was that he had started passing Logano and Logano kept coming down. In other words, Logano's block was later than it should have been (Tony's splitter was passing Logano's bumper). He was literally running Stewart into the grass.

Joey's left side tires did not go below the white line (on the line, not below). There was room below the white line for Tony. Tony may have taken out an orange cone had he gone below the line, but he would not have been in the grass. Tony's right tires ran the white line as he approached the cone (at pit exit).

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Kenseth a few cars back in the 20 followed the same line as Tony. Somehow Kenseth ended up 7th and Tony ended up 22nd?

I'm just glad that Tony didn't take out Joey and wad up the field. It probably would have been better for Denny (an accident on the restart would have changed the outcome of the race and prevented the last lap battle). But Tony is wrong about the block.


When I first saw the fight I thought Tony was mad at Joey for wrecking Denny. Perhaps that would have been an honorable thing to do. But it was just about a "block" where the blocking driver did not go on to the apron?

I like Tony Stewart, but the name calling and whiny complaints do not reflect well on a champion. Perhaps nothing said within 10 minutes of a wreck or on track incident should be held against a driver ... but upon further review, it was just as the announcers said. That's just racing.

BTW: In case anyone has forgotten, congrats to Kyle for winning the race and to Dale Jr for becoming the points leader.

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 04:53 AM

Kenseth didn't have to check up the way Tony did.

And, yeah, I initially thought Tony was going after Logano because of the Hamlin wreck.

BTW - it's a penalty if Tony goes lower and hits that cone. You can go under the white line. You can't hit a cone.

In addition to Kyle Busch's performance being overlooked - how about the racing those last couple dozen laps? I've *never* seen *anything* at Fontana that good or that exciting.




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