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#1 OFFLINE   Mr. Bungle

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 03:21 PM

Just got a Genie installed last weekend. The first thing the installer says is that direct tv no longer supports where my dish is mounted so he needs to install one at the top of the roof. Not a problem. So he installed a new dish that was exactly like the old one I had, and left the old one up there connected to nothing. When I called DTV about it they told me, "They are not allowed to touch the old equipment. It is your property now." I don't have the means to take the old dish down. Its way up there and I don't have a ladder tall enough or the tools needed to take it down. Am I in the wrong here thinking that they need to take this thing with them? :mad:

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#2 OFFLINE   studechip

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 03:35 PM

It's yours, you own it. Some installers will remove the dish and mast, but you don't want to remove the base unless the shingles are replaced. Simply using roofing tar or something similar isn't good enough. The holes could leak. It sounds like you are better off leaving it.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 03:37 PM

policies have changed. Per OSHA regulations installers are not supposed to leave their ladders without proper fall protection gear. I guess you can request the dish taken down, but you will have to sign paper work stating that DirecTV needs to install roof anchors for the fall protection (they will not remove them) and if they leak, you cannot held them liable.
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#4 OFFLINE   Mr. Bungle

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 03:44 PM

The dish is not mounted on an area where there are shingles fortunately. Just on the side of it where its only wood.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 09:26 PM

Just got a Genie installed last weekend. The first thing the installer says is that direct tv no longer supports where my dish is mounted so he needs to install one at the top of the roof. Not a problem. So he installed a new dish that was exactly like the old one I had, and left the old one up there connected to nothing. When I called DTV about it they told me, "They are not allowed to touch the old equipment. It is your property now." I don't have the means to take the old dish down. Its way up there and I don't have a ladder tall enough or the tools needed to take it down. Am I in the wrong here thinking that they need to take this thing with them? :mad:


Nope it yours. You could have asked him/her when they where there but it is "your" property.
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Posted 27 February 2013 - 11:24 AM

I have an old DISH dish on the roof. The previous owner was a DISH subscriber.

I asked the DirecTV installer when he came if he could just take it down.

He said "we are not allowed to touch dish network equipment."

All well and good but the dish is clearly not working and he could have reused the mounting space. But I can understand the policy.

Hurricane Sandy blew the LNB off and now it is hanging by the cables. I guess when it gets warmer I'll have to go up with a 35 foot extension ladder and take it down. Not really looking forward to that.

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 03:42 PM

Nope it yours. You could have asked him/her when they where there but it is "your" property.


Yeah if I knew he left it up there I would have. But I didn't go outside until after he left.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 02:21 PM

I would suggest that having a $20 bill in your hand, when you are asking them to remove a dish for you, will often cause installers to forget what are and aren't "allowed" to do.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 03:47 PM

I would suggest that having a $20 bill in your hand, when you are asking them to remove a dish for you, will often cause installers to forget what are and aren't "allowed" to do.

If your dish is mounted through your shingles and roof sheathing into your roof trusses, you should probably leave it in place. I used my old one and mounted my OTA antenna to it.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 03:04 PM

If your dish is mounted through your shingles and roof sheathing into your roof trusses, you should probably leave it in place. I used my old one and mounted my OTA antenna to it.


In this case, you should leave the base plate in place. But there is no reason to keep the mast & dish connected that base plate.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 03:11 PM

Personally, I wouldn't have anything but a pole mount. IMHO & YMMV.

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 04:21 PM

Personally unless the dish was a threat to national security i would just leave it up. If something would happen to happen to the main dish it make a handy temp. solution to get some TV back in the house till a tech could come and repair the other.

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 10:10 PM

I have seen where they take the dish and mast off. And leave the base still mounted. Alot better than risking roof leak.

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 04:55 PM

Heck I have 3 dishes for DirecTV. 1 on my roof and 1 on the side of my house and 1 in the ground on a pole. The 1 on the roof is about 25+ feet up and its an AU9-SL3. The one on the side of the house is an 18" round. The one on the ground is an AU9-SL3. The installer each time left the last dish up. He told me if LOS became an issue with the ground mounted dish (snow and easy maintenance) I could revert to the roof mounted antenna. All the cables are still ran for all 3 dishes.

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 08:07 PM

Heck I have 3 dishes for DirecTV.


I keep two slimlines installed/mounted, and have several Phase I and Phase III dishes hanging from the rafters in my garage. My "main" dish is on the roof, hard to get to. My backup is bolted to the side of my deck, about 5' off the ground. It is my experiment/test/wipe the snow off dish (on those very rare occasions I get snow).

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 09:22 PM

I have an old DISH dish on the roof. The previous owner was a DISH subscriber.

I asked the DirecTV installer when he came if he could just take it down.

He said "we are not allowed to touch dish network equipment."

All well and good but the dish is clearly not working and he could have reused the mounting space. But I can understand the policy.

Hurricane Sandy blew the LNB off and now it is hanging by the cables. I guess when it gets warmer I'll have to go up with a 35 foot extension ladder and take it down. Not really looking forward to that.


Can you reach it with a pole saw? Just cut the wires and drop the lnb and leave the rest? If you don't want to get up there.

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 11:14 AM

I have an old DISH dish on the roof. The previous owner was a DISH subscriber.

I asked the DirecTV installer when he came if he could just take it down.

He said "we are not allowed to touch dish network equipment."

All well and good but the dish is clearly not working and he could have reused the mounting space. But I can understand the policy.

Hurricane Sandy blew the LNB off and now it is hanging by the cables. I guess when it gets warmer I'll have to go up with a 35 foot extension ladder and take it down. Not really looking forward to that.

Can't use the same mounting bracket either....    Dish network and Directv masts are not the same Diameter anymore.    Directv masts are 2" ODU ,   Dish still uses 1 & 5/8"  ODU masts.........    A new mast has to be installed.



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Posted 24 April 2013 - 10:25 AM

When I upgraded to HD my installer left my old dish in the middle of my lawn :nono2:



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Posted 24 April 2013 - 11:50 AM

When I upgraded to HD my installer left my old dish in the middle of my lawn :nono2:

 

 

Because it's your property


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Posted 24 April 2013 - 01:22 PM

Can't use the same mounting bracket either....    Dish network and Directv masts are not the same Diameter anymore.    Directv masts are 2" ODU ,   Dish still uses 1 & 5/8"  ODU masts.........    A new mast has to be installed.

I thought Dish had a model with a 2" mast.



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Posted 24 April 2013 - 01:57 PM

Because it's your property

 Yeah, but just dumping it in the middle of the lawn?  That's unprofessional.  How about asking, "where do you want me to put the old dish?"



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Posted 24 April 2013 - 02:21 PM

I thought Dish had a model with a 2" mast.

Nope, even their "newer" dishes uses the same 1 5/8 mast with monopoles


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Posted 25 April 2013 - 03:55 PM

 Yeah, but just dumping it in the middle of the lawn?  That's unprofessional.  How about asking, "where do you want me to put the old dish?"

 

I assumed he meant it was on an old pole mount in the middle of his yard.  If that is the case, then I don't really see a problem with the installer leaving it there.  Like it has said before, that is not part of their job.  If they were to get injured, or accidentally damage your property or hurt someone else when removing it they would likely end up in trouble and possibly lose their job.

 

Now if the installer actually removed the dish from a roof, or something like that and just threw it in a pile in the middle of the yard, yeah that is somewhat annoying.  But again, the installer did something that was not part of his job so you really shouldn't be too upset about it, after all he didn't need to remove it at all, he could have left it for the owner to remove like he is supposed to.

 

To me that's like getting mad at a waiter for bringing you a napkin so you can wipe something off your face, rather than the waiter actually wiping it off for you .


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