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#21 OFFLINE   JcT21

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 08:18 PM

They tried to get me to switch to ENTERTAINMENT (from Choice Extra Classic) a year ago when I complained and complained about the Regional Sports Fee (I hate sports). But then I looked at how many non-sports channels that I watch weren't in ENTERTAINMENT and decided that wasn't an option.

When I started talking "Hopper" to retention I ended up with a $10 bill credit for a year and 6 months of no DVR fee.

Now, I discovered that the Regional Sports Fee suddenly disappeared for my ZIP code on February 1!

Why doesn't DirecTV just put ALL the sports channels into their sports tier and let viewers who don't watch sports escape from the outrageous charges that sports channel providers (I.E. ESPN) charge?


im not a sports fan either. ive also wondered why they dont group all the sports channels together, in their own premium package like they do the movie channels. im sure there are some reason why they cant or wont do that. im guessing the sports part of directv cost so much a premium type sports package would be too expensive. maybe?

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 08:25 PM

Yep. Backlash from me is coming once my contract is up. Unless there is another show like dexter or breaking bad to keep me around. I will be leaving pay TV. I will survive with Netflix and OTA..


I signed up for a free trial of Netflix, but I swear, every movie I type in to watch is not available for streaming. Im going to cancel, and stick with Amazon Prime. At least with Prime, if the movie isnt available free for your monthly subscription, they offer the opportunity to stream it for $3.99, or stream/buy for about 3x the watch once amount.

I rarely watch anything on OTA except sports, so that really isnt an option for me. Reality shows just tick me off.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 08:26 PM

They tried to get me to switch to ENTERTAINMENT (from Choice Extra Classic) a year ago when I complained and complained about the Regional Sports Fee (I hate sports). But then I looked at how many non-sports channels that I watch weren't in ENTERTAINMENT and decided that wasn't an option.

When I started talking "Hopper" to retention I ended up with a $10 bill credit for a year and 6 months of no DVR fee.

Now, I discovered that the Regional Sports Fee suddenly disappeared for my ZIP code on February 1!

Why doesn't DirecTV just put ALL the sports channels into their sports tier and let viewers who don't watch sports escape from the outrageous charges that sports channel providers (I.E. ESPN) charge?


im not a sports fan either. ive also wondered why they dont group all the sports channels together, in their own premium package like they do the movie channels. im sure there are some reason why they cant or wont do that. im guessing the sports part of directv cost so much a premium type sports package would be too expensive. maybe?

Satelliteracer has giving his opinion on why its not feasible previously:

We will agree to disagree on this. The sports channels are a product of many things, including huge salaries for players, etc. They need eyeballs for ad revenue and subscribers to drive ratings for that ad revenue. On the flip side, they also need high subscription fees to pay for the rights fees that pay for the salaries, etc.

Many distributors right now are trying to put Pac 12 into a "premium" package, or a sports tier, same with Longhorn Network, etc. You see what happens as a result. No matter what, someone isn't going to be happy. The sports fan that feels all sports should be included and costs be damned, or the non sports fan that could not care less about sports and has to bear huge portion of their monthly bill to support the very sports they do not want. Where's the middle ground?


Problem is that the RSNs demand that the channel be in those higher tier packages and are required under contract. That's one of the core issues. The RSNs (the teams, etc) want broad penetration for advertising eyeballs AND large fees from the distributor.


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Posted 28 February 2013 - 08:28 PM

They tried to get me to switch to ENTERTAINMENT (from Choice Extra Classic) a year ago when I complained and complained about the Regional Sports Fee (I hate sports). But then I looked at how many non-sports channels that I watch weren't in ENTERTAINMENT and decided that wasn't an option.

When I started talking "Hopper" to retention I ended up with a $10 bill credit for a year and 6 months of no DVR fee.

Now, I discovered that the Regional Sports Fee suddenly disappeared for my ZIP code on February 1!

Why doesn't DirecTV just put ALL the sports channels into their sports tier and let viewers who don't watch sports escape from the outrageous charges that sports channel providers (I.E. ESPN) charge?

Its because ESPN is part of ABC - Disney and with there contract they have it all in the regular package. If they moved ESPN and all the other sports networks they ALL would lose money.
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 08:34 PM

i can cetainly understand why some are cutting back. prices are getting out of hand. its not just directv alone, for me its a combo of everything. phone, internet, tv, groceries, electric costs are up, not to mention near $4 gas. i mean where does it end? everything is going up except my salary. few dollars more here, few more there... it adds up.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 08:49 PM

few dollars more here, few more there... it adds up.


Yep, I agree completely. Im lucky in that regard, I can work all the overtime I want, so that helps.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 02:32 AM

i can cetainly understand why some are cutting back. prices are getting out of hand. its not just directv alone, for me its a combo of everything. phone, internet, tv, groceries, electric costs are up, not to mention near $4 gas. i mean where does it end? everything is going up except my salary. few dollars more here, few more there... it adds up.



Your payroll taxes went up too . . dont you love sending your money to Washington D.C. They do thank you though.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 06:04 AM

i can cetainly understand why some are cutting back. prices are getting out of hand. its not just directv alone, for me its a combo of everything. phone, internet, tv, groceries, electric costs are up, not to mention near $4 gas. i mean where does it end? everything is going up except my salary. few dollars more here, few more there... it adds up.


Yep. I was lucky enough to get a raise, and my take home still went down.

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 06:34 PM

Yep, I agree completely. Im lucky in that regard, I can work all the overtime I want, so that helps.


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Posted 02 March 2013 - 06:52 PM

Just switched my grandfathered Choice Xtra Classic package to Xtra. For many years the classic package received more channels for less money. For the first time the grandfathered package is now more. Only by $1. The reason I switched is so I have more control of my account online. The channels I lost I never watch anyway.

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 01:22 PM

Today I just switched from Total Choice to Entertainment. Total Choice became $2 more example change Choice so dropping to Entertainment saves $12 a month.
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Posted 08 March 2013 - 01:47 PM

Today I just switched from Total Choice to Entertainment. Total Choice became $2 more example change Choice so dropping to Entertainment saves $12 a month.

Guess I am the only one that is happy with premium package.
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Posted 08 March 2013 - 02:06 PM

Guess I am the only one that is happy with premium package.


Yup, the ONLY one.

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 08:09 PM

I have the Classic Choice package and considered the Entertainment choice but was told by a rep that The Ent. Package is not eligible for the HD Free for Life promotion that I currently have. If that's true then the drop would only save me about $6 a month instead of $16. Can someone please confirm if this is true or not?

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 12:51 PM

directv deserves the backlash in my opinion. They want to get serious and gain some attention. The HD race is over. They have plenty of HD. It comes down to their bread and butter which I would guess pays everyone of their salaries.

The $6 mirror / lease / xtra box fees need to go. They act like they are doing you a favor and waiving it on the first receiver. but for a household that has 6 boxes its $30 dollars OR 30% of your monthly recurring charge.

At one time it was called a license fee for the NDS activation / mirroring.

Then it became the lease fee. (It should have been terminated then)

It is out of hand, The HD fee, The DVR fee, The Whole Home Fee variations, The product protection plan fee. I am on Total Choice and I looked at the channel packages today, I don't see big reasons to change.

Directv needs to regroup on the fee schedule. particularly the $6 lease fee per / box. Its just absurd when you think about what people payed for Sat TV in the late 90s.

Its best described as CORP GREED!

A perfect example of the executives laughing their asses off all the way to the bank is the C-31 , RVU Clients. You pay $6 fee for those too.

When the prototype windows media center extended was testing, it was thought thier would not be fees with clients such as XBOX and other WM extenders. Instead of trying this out they just scaped the entire project for their own media server / client, which is great , but they got what they wanted . (BOX FEES)

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 01:35 PM

DTV's prices are really determined more by Dish than by anything else. They are always a couple of bucks more than Dish and several dollars less than Comcast and AT&T. TV is very competitve, and i am not sure that AT&T and Verizon make any money from it.

The biggest problem is being forced to pay for channels we don't watch and there is probably no solution to that unless there is legislation in Washington D.C. that forces a la carte billing.

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 07:16 PM

When the prototype windows media center extended was testing, it was thought thier would not be fees with clients such as XBOX and other WM extenders. Instead of trying this out they just scaped the entire project for their own media server / client, which is great , but they got what they wanted . (BOX FEES)


I think that was only 2 tuners so even they what if you needed more then 1 box?

Also cable card did not really take off and that hurt media center as well.
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