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#21 OFFLINE   RAD

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 11:43 AM

Didn't DIRECTV pour water on that fire with the retirement of n3D this week?


Or did Panasonic pull the plug since they were the sponsor of the channel?

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 01:20 PM

Or did Panasonic pull the plug since they were the sponsor of the channel?

Either way someone saw it wasn't pulling in the customers to justifiy the cost.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 03:28 PM

IF that is what he's referring to then I would like to ask what networks currently broadcast in 1080P. How is it the fault of DIRECTV if FOX is in 720P and not 1080P?


I know dtv does alot of ppv broadcast in 1080p, but if more stations broadcast in 1080p would dtv have a capacity issue, or is plenty of extra bandwidth available?

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 03:48 PM

I know dtv does alot of ppv broadcast in 1080p, but if more stations broadcast in 1080p would dtv have a capacity issue, or is plenty of extra bandwidth available?


DIRECTV receivers are capable of 1080P/24fps. I'm not sure that it would take any more bandwidth than 1080i/60fps or 720P/60.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 04:04 PM

This just guarantees that the industry won't call it 4K. Ultra must have been taken already :nono2:. Wonder if I can tm "4" ;).

One would think they have a lot more important things to spend time & $ on.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 04:36 PM

Or did Panasonic pull the plug since they were the sponsor of the channel?

That DIRECTV removed it from the uplink suggests that they (and Panasonic) are done with it for now.

In the mean time, the 3D offerings seem to be tending toward less instead of more.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 04:52 PM

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One would think they have a lot more important things to spend time & $ on.


Trademarking is a very smart way to make money.
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 07:56 PM

IF that is what he's referring to then I would like to ask what networks currently broadcast in 1080P. How is it the fault of DIRECTV if FOX is in 720P and not 1080P?


Well what networks currently broadcast in 4K? I think maybe that was his point

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 09:02 PM

Well what networks currently broadcast in 4K? I think maybe that was his point


Chances are the 4K programming will only be PPV too. He said maybe they should get 1080P working first, what is not working?

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 06:42 AM

Chances are the 4K programming will only be PPV too. He said maybe they should get 1080P working first, what is not working?

On Directv side 1080p is working fine.

But no networks are even 1080p at all. His point along with mine why spend all that money on addtional equipment and PPVs on 4K when not even one network is in 1080p yet, let alone 4 K.
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I think they should invest their money into what we have now, get all the kinks worked out of the current receivers.

And someone said it best , they want to try and grab the "high end customers"

And I say good luck.:)

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 09:35 AM

Trademarking is a very smart way to make money.

Perhaps you're confusing trademarking with patenting. It doesn't seem reasonable that someone other than DIRECTV would want or need to use a DIRECTV trademark.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 02:45 PM

Why would any network bother buying new equipment to upgrade their stations editing/distribution/uplink/etc from 720p/1080i to 1080p now? That would seem to be a pretty poor use of funds. It would make much more sense for them to upgrade straight from 720p/1080i to 4K whenever a standard gets set and hardware starts getting more available.

Perhaps you're confusing trademarking with patenting. It doesn't seem reasonable that someone other than DIRECTV would want or need to use a DIRECTV trademark.


Not really, just ask Proview. They made a pretty penny selling apple their trademark for the name iPad in China.
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Posted 01 March 2013 - 02:57 PM

. It would make much more sense for them to upgrade straight from 720p/1080i to 4K whenever a standard gets set and hardware starts getting more available.



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OK, then who would view it? All the customers that don't have 4k TVs?

I don't even see Networks Doing 4K at all!

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 03:25 PM

I see networks doing it eventually, but it won't be done widely for quite a while like 10 years or so. Just like HDTV. It's been around for quite a while, but it's just now getting to where it is the norm.

I think in a couple years we will see it used for PPV and events, and then eventually the early adopter stations like HBO, Cinemax, Showtime, etc. Maybe Mark Cuban will come out with 4KNet and 4KNet Movies.

1080p though I think would just be a waste of time/money for the networks. DirecTVs existing hardware only works with 1080p24, and I don't see them coming out with new hardware just to allow 1080p30 or 1080p60. TV stuff is mainly done in 30 or 60Hz framerates, as opposed to movies which are usually done as 24Hz. Not to mention there would be very little benefit to upgrading a channel from 1080i60 to 1080p30 or 1080p60. Most people wouldn't even be able to tell the difference. You would get more of an impact by just increasing the bandwidth of the channels rather than trying to switch to 1080p30 or 1080p60.

Upgrading a channels infrastructure to go from 1080i to 1080p would just be a waste of money. Upgrading from 720p to 1080p may make a bit more sense, but still probably won't happen.
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Posted 01 March 2013 - 04:03 PM

Sweet! With a 4k channel, they could have a mix channel with 32 feeds! All the RSN's on 1 channel! (If by all, you mean the NY DMA ;) )

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 03:45 AM

Most Networks now are in 720p or 1080i, You think they are going to run to 2160p? They aren't even 1080p yet.

If 2160p is going to become the standard HD television several years from now, what's the logic in making the jump to 1080p now? You might as well wait to make the jump to 2160p.

OK, then who would view it? All the customers that don't have 4k TVs?

I don't even see Networks Doing 4K at all!


And how great is 720p going to look on a 2160p screen?
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Posted 02 March 2013 - 09:03 AM

If 2160p is going to become the standard HD television several years from now, what's the logic in making the jump to 1080p now? You might as well wait to make the jump to 2160p.



And how great is 720p going to look on a 2160p screen?


When everyone has a 2160p tv then ask that question.;)

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 07:02 AM

And how great is 720p going to look on a 2160p screen?

The same as 1080i will look.

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 11:05 AM

Either way someone saw it wasn't pulling in the customers to justifiy the cost.


Panasonic pulled back on a ton of projects.

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 02:04 PM

Panasonic pulled back on a ton of projects.

Why?;)

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