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NBC reportedly ready to retire Jay Leno


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#21 OFFLINE   Drucifer

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 02:22 PM

I record the Tonight Show, and very seldom fail to get a great laugh or two or three from the opening monologue. Stick for guests I might like, or new comedians, or musical talent. I imagine Jay himself might want to get out now. Who knows?

Letterman was fine years and years ago on the Late Show, but I don't like his persona at all. Kimmel doesn't even merit these seven words.

Leno is the biggest attacker of NBC ineptness and I can't imagine the constant attacks go over too well, when the big wigs get together in the conference room.

Instead of trying to improve their programs, they rather get rid of Leno.

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 02:24 PM

Leno is the biggest attacker of NBC ineptness and I can't imagine the constant attacks go over too well, when the big wigs get together in the conference room.

Instead of trying to improve their programs, they rather get rid of Leno.


Er, maybe. But ratings are pretty much indisputable... money talks, nobody walks. It seems almost everyone on NBC is knocking the network.
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Posted 04 March 2013 - 02:44 PM

Er, maybe. But ratings are pretty much indisputable... money talks, nobody walks. It seems almost everyone on NBC is knocking the network.

For sure.

Leno has said for many years how much more he enjoys doing standup (he sitll does Vegas gigs regularly) even more than the Tonight Show.

I suspect this is a favorable 2-way street to bring things to an end.
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Posted 04 March 2013 - 04:31 PM

If Carson was a "100" no current performer is more than a 45.

IMHO,

Leno - He is just not a very bright person. I really think he does not really get many of the jokes he tells. If they wrote a joke on the cue cards about Secretary of State Fred Thompson, he would read it with the same delivery as now.

Letterman - Used to be really good, but has grown in the last five to eight years into a one-sided political cheapshot artist. He should understand that Carson did political humor equally at both sides, all in fun, and without an agenda.

O'Brien - One of those Harvard types that thinks he is oh, so, funny. Isn't.

Stewert - See Letterman, above, but without the residual talent.

Kimmel - The next generation's lead guy. Broader appeal than Fallon.

Fallon - Will do well at 11:30, but not as well as Kimmel. Very urban.

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 04:40 PM

There are other channels -- several of them. H2 is one I like around the witching hour.


Been a very, very long time since I watched broadcast TV at all, let alone late night talk shows. I'm not sure what I'm going to do when I have to shut Dish down at the end of this year.
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Posted 04 March 2013 - 05:40 PM

From Forbes Numbers Don't Lie: NBC Should Replace Jay Leno With Jimmy Fallon Now:

...That's important because the value of moving Fallon to 11:35 in 2014 is it would help NBC hold the line against ABC, which has made inroads with viewers age 18 to 49 since moving Jimmy Kimmel into that slot. Like Fallon -- and unlike Leno -- Kimmel has a footprint that goes well beyond his television audience, with a knack for producing videos that go viral on YouTube. (Kimmel's video of parents telling their children they ate all their Halloween candy has gotten more than 25 million views; Fallon's "Evolution of Mom Dancing" video with Michelle Obama has racked up more than 14 million plays in a few days.)

And Kimmel's Q scores are better than either NBC host's: positive Q of 16, negative Q of 22. Could we be looking at the new king of late night?

The issue not being addressed is will the younger audience watch late night broadcast TV? Or will they find other distractions?

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 05:49 PM

Lordy! Where is taste? It's hard to be pleased with the trend towards crassness in late night TV. It's been downhill since Jack Paar, and accelerating as we near (hopefully we are nearing) the bottom of the pit of boorishness.
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Posted 04 March 2013 - 05:51 PM

But Kimmel?? Yuck. His only funny bit was sex with Matt Damon.


What host was it that had a running joke about David Duchovny having a mancrush on him? Those were some crazy bits!
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Posted 04 March 2013 - 08:08 PM

I never liked Leno, and have never watched Kimmel or OBrien.

I've been watching Letterman though since 1982. I'll admit, however, that even though I still record them all, I typically only watch about 1 per week (good guest, Jack Hannah, stupid pet/human tricks).

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 12:50 AM

phrelin makes a good point--how does all this play with the Millennials? This is a creaky and ancient format from 3 generations ago. It comes off like blackface and baggy pants comedians to Millennials. It's overkill on a grand scale, too many guys doing the exact same thing. It's really just a sleeping pill for the over 50 crowd. Millennials are online or texting or doing the nasty or all 3 after 11pm.

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 08:17 AM

...Millennials are online or texting or doing the nasty or all 3 after 11pm.


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Posted 06 March 2013 - 06:44 PM

The issue not being addressed is will the younger audience watch late night broadcast TV? Or will they find other distractions?


Yeah, they're all pretty much recycling the Tonight Show format that's been around for, what, 50 years? I was a bit surprised that Conan didn't try to do something more outside the box when he moved to TBS, but it's just the same old same old.

Maybe John Stewart is the true alternative.
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Posted 07 March 2013 - 02:12 AM

I actually know lots of folks who are busy DVRing The Daily Show and Colbert after the 11:00 news. They wouldn't watch one of those lame-ass formulaic talk shows if you stuck a gun to their head.

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 05:27 AM

As I think Mark Evanier pointed out on his blog, whoever is spreading this rumor waited until Leno went on vacation (for a week?) and so couldn't address it right away on his show. The timing suggests this is a negotiation ploy regarding Leno's next contract. I don't watch these shows anymore, and haven't in years; they're just not interesting anymore. Maybe they should bring back the overnight movie.

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 06:15 PM

At 11:30 most viewers want something safe, simple and predictable. They just want to turn off their brains, have a laugh or two and then go to sleep.

Leno addresses all of those points very well, and increasingly so does David Letterman.
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Posted 07 March 2013 - 06:21 PM

Further in the rumor mill, replacement for Fallon when he moves to Tonight Show, Howard Stern.

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 08:19 PM

Further in the rumor mill, replacement for Fallon when he moves to Tonight Show, Howard Stern.


OMG! The slide into the abyss continues....... I hope the mill is wrong.
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Posted 07 March 2013 - 08:43 PM

Me as well, though if I close my eyes while hearing him talk, I can pretend its Alan Alda.

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 09:22 PM

Me as well, though if I close my eyes while hearing him talk, I can pretend its Alan Alda.


and that's an improvement??

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 03:06 AM

They do sound alike, don't they?




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