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#121 OFFLINE   SamC

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Posted 06 April 2013 - 05:45 AM

In two years, when the dust settles:

Kimmel will be #1 on ABC
Fallon will be #2, but draw enough of a crowd to make money for NBC
Letterman will have retired, and be replaced by, nobody, with CBS returning to its "Crimetime after Primetime" format of showing reruns of its owned popular crime drama shows about three weeks behind current, a pure profit format.
O'Brien's contract will have been allowed to quietly expire.
All of the smug political commetators on all of the cable channels will have fallen from fashion as the nation tires of all the condensentaion from above.

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#122 OFFLINE   Sixto

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Posted 06 April 2013 - 08:56 AM

In two years, when the dust settles:

Kimmel will be #1 on ABC
Fallon will be #2, but draw enough of a crowd to make money for NBC
Letterman will have retired, and be replaced by, nobody, with CBS returning to its "Crimetime after Primetime" format of showing reruns of its owned popular crime drama shows about three weeks behind current, a pure profit format.
O'Brien's contract will have been allowed to quietly expire.
All of the smug political commetators on all of the cable channels will have fallen from fashion as the nation tires of all the condensentaion from above.

Yep, interesting ... I do think that Kimmel is the best now of all of them, he's really come into his own, he's learned from Dave and Howard and interviews well, and he's quick with his comments. If you really listen to him he's really good with his responses to all guest comments. I'm also still a big Letterman guy as well but Dave probably only has a few more years. Fallon while a good guy just never seems comfortable when he's interviewing, it always seems like he has a nervous laugh, and Leno drives me nuts with his "I just gotta ask you something" in every interview over and over and over again. I also record Conan and he's ok when he has a good guest. I usually record all of them on the Genie and then catch the highlights during the week when I have a chance. And I usually ignore all politics in general anyway so not sure I ever notice any of the political items that have been mentioned here.
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#123 OFFLINE   James Long

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Posted 06 April 2013 - 10:45 AM

Letterman will have retired, and be replaced by, nobody ...

No love for Craig?

One of the biggest issues I see is asking people to do a show that is different than the one that made them popular. The Tonight Show is the professional place to go for a late night TV appearance. Late Night is an aftershow with a less formal format. There may be some tweaks to the format as a host changes show but the hosts change format to match their new show.

Telling Conan he could have The Tonight Show but "you can't do THAT on The Tonight Show" makes the show different. And even if the networks do not interfere with the format there are different expectations of the 11:35 slot than the 12:37 slot. Perhaps Fallon will be not change - but I doubt it. He will end up doing someone else's show.

All of the smug political commetators on all of the cable channels will have fallen from fashion as the nation tires of all the condensentaion from above.

That is a completely different issue ... but don't expect the cable commentators to ever go away. They will change over time but it seems that the trend is to have more commentators at a time shouting over issues than to get away from commentary and get back to "just the facts" reporting.

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Posted 06 April 2013 - 11:56 AM

The best night host, was Steve Allen.

Everyone else, at best, have been a distant second.

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 07:43 AM

No love for Craig?


Love him. I just don't think he will work at 11:30 and not against two younger guys, both with a head start at building an audience. The Market really has not yet spoken in regard to 3, or 4 if you count O'Brien, idntical format shows in the same time slot.

CBS can think outside the box, and, with the #1 primetime lineup and no profit on the backside (it does not own USA Network, the eventual destination of most of these shows) it can do a pure profit squeze of a few more $$ out of its shows and pick up a different demographic, and pick up the vaunted "cord cutters".

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 01:06 PM

I would not bet on "crimetime after primetime" working again. As DVR penetration and online viewing increases the need for additional plays of first run shows is limited. I understand that some networks have turned Saturdays into a rerun festival (or dumping ground for shows that didn't make it during the week) so it is not impossible to have a "second run" schedule but it is less needed.

I would also not refer to it as pure profit. Each network airing of the show costs money. CBS may be willing to pay for the reruns but I would not consider them free. (Even for CBS produced shows they are paying royalties for each airing. And if they own the show they are being paid for the USA airings. Nobody rides for free.)

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 01:17 PM

Ferguson is already the replacement for Letterman.
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Posted 07 April 2013 - 06:17 PM

Ferguson is already the replacement for Letterman.


Source, please.
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#129 OFFLINE   Hoosier205

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 07:05 PM

Source, please.


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Posted 07 April 2013 - 07:22 PM

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 07:26 PM

www.google.com


You cannot be serious. I asked in a polite way for your particular source.
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#132 OFFLINE   trh

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 08:06 PM

I don't think he has a source.

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 09:16 PM

Ferguson is already the replacement for Letterman.

Source, please.

www.google.com

Not a done deal ... both Dave and Craig are renewed through 2014 but Craig has not been tagged as a replacement for Dave.

"News out of CBS is that Craig Ferguson’s “Late Late Show” is nearing a deal that would keep him on the show at least through 2014."
"With Ferguson closing in on the deal, and Letterman also in negotiations to re-up for a couple more years, however, there is still an open question about who might replace Dave in 2014 or 2016 or 2018."
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#134 OFFLINE   RunnerFL

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 09:39 PM

Ferguson has said many times he does not want to replace Dave.

My money would be on Colbert or Stewart to replace Dave.
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#135 OFFLINE   Hoosier205

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 10:56 PM

Ferguson has said many times he does not want to replace Dave.

My money would be on Colbert or Stewart to replace Dave.


No he has not.
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Posted 07 April 2013 - 11:56 PM

Ferguson has said many times he does not want to replace Dave.

My money would be on Colbert or Stewart to replace Dave.

No he has not.

Yes, he has ...

Late, Late Show host Craig Ferguson says that he would like to see Jon Stewart take over for David Letterman if and when Letterman retires. Ferguson hints strongly that if Letterman stays, he'll stay, but if Letterman does indeed retire, he'll probably retire too.
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“It's not been my lifelong ambition to host The Tonight Show or something like it,” he says. “Jimmy [Kimmel] and Conan [O'Brien], that's what they want and have always wanted. I think I'm pretty good at it, but it's not necessary for me to feel complete as a human being.”
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Now, how about a source on your claim that Craig has been selected as the replacement for Dave? All signs point it "no". :)

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 05:52 AM

Yes, he has ...

Late, Late Show host Craig Ferguson says that he would like to see Jon Stewart take over for David Letterman if and when Letterman retires. Ferguson hints strongly that if Letterman stays, he'll stay, but if Letterman does indeed retire, he'll probably retire too.
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"It's not been my lifelong ambition to host The Tonight Show or something like it," he says. "Jimmy [Kimmel] and Conan [O'Brien], that's what they want and have always wanted. I think I'm pretty good at it, but it's not necessary for me to feel complete as a human being."
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Now, how about a source on your claim that Craig has been selected as the replacement for Dave? All signs point it "no". :)


If you are going to post a source, you may want to post something that actually says what you claim.
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#138 OFFLINE   RunnerFL

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 06:59 AM

No he has not.


Yes, he has...

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 07:01 AM

If you are going to post a source, you may want to post something that actually says what you claim.


He did.
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 07:26 AM

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