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DirecTV could pull plug on NFL Sunday Ticket


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#1 OFFLINE   lacubs

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 03:47 PM

Posted by Mike Florio
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DirecTV CFO Pat Doyle said at a Wednesday investors conference that, if the price goes up too high when the current NFL Sunday Ticket deal expires after the 2014 season, DirecTV would consider “striking a non-exclusive deal with the NFL or possibly even dropping the popular package,” writes the Hollywood Reporter, via SportsBusiness Daily.

The fact that there’s no new deal only two seasons away from expiration of the current contract isn’t a good sign, given that the NFL usually extends these things years in advance. ...


More at http://profootballta...-sunday-ticket/

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#2 OFFLINE   joshjr

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 03:57 PM

I am not that worried about it for now. I have read over and over again that the NFL does not want it available to all providers as it would lower their worth with the local channels. In the past the Cable Co's didn't have the capacity to run it and Dish Network is too cheap to get it. I don't see it leaving DirecTV soon.

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#3 OFFLINE   JoeTheDragon

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 04:05 PM

Posted by Mike Florio

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DirecTV CFO Pat Doyle said at a Wednesday investors conference that, if the price goes up too high when the current NFL Sunday Ticket deal expires after the 2014 season, DirecTV would consider “striking a non-exclusive deal with the NFL or possibly even dropping the popular package,” writes the Hollywood Reporter, via SportsBusiness Daily.

The fact that there’s no new deal only two seasons away from expiration of the current contract isn’t a good sign, given that the NFL usually extends these things years in advance. ...

cable will need to do a lot of work to fit it in.

Directv will lose a lot bars if they drop the ticket. and cable can't cover all the areas that directv does.

Maybe it will come to cable systems and directv / dish.

In Canada there is no exclusive to it.

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 04:22 PM

Could be a good thing if DIRECTV didn't have exclusive rights anymore, maybe a pricing battle between DIRECTV and the cable/telco's.

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 04:31 PM

Not surprised NFL ST isn't pulling its own weight.

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 04:37 PM

Not surprised NFL ST isn't pulling its own weight.


How so? It's very difficult to find a decent sports bar without ST.
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 04:41 PM

Didn't the price come down last season because of the NFL Net's Thursday night games, NFLST had less inventory to offer? I don't see where the NFL has a lot of negotiating room to demand a significant increase in the fees paid to it for ST.
Could this be another attempt by D* to lessen its desire to keep the sports fan happy? As fees rise, D* could be positioning itself to pass on more sports programming, and appeal to a more general audience; keep the fees down by limiting what's available on its system.
I don't begrudge them if that's their plan going forward, just let us know.

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 04:41 PM

Could be a good thing if DIRECTV didn't have exclusive rights anymore, maybe a pricing battle between DIRECTV and the cable/telco's.


Not saying there is no chance of this happening but I have read a few times over the years that the NFL is the one that wants it exclusive. To many options for the package lowers the NFL's worth in other areas and it was not worth it to them. I am sure DirecTV see's that it is a big draw for them as well. They seem to have alot of installs around that time of year. I do think there could be more gained if the price was lowered but that is not by decision.

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 04:43 PM

Id leave if it left Directv, but Id stay if it was like MLB Extra Innings.

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 04:45 PM

Id leave if it left Directv, but Id stay if it was like MLB Extra Innings.


I would strongly consider leaving if DirecTV lost Sunday Ticket but it would have to be with another provider that made sense. I mean, the cable co here would never get it and if they did, their 20 hour cap on a HD DVR does nothing for me. I would probably try to find another way to watch the games. Hopefully if it comes to that, there will be a way to stream them with a RoKu box or PS3 or something of that nature.

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 04:54 PM

I would strongly consider leaving if DirecTV lost Sunday Ticket but it would have to be with another provider that made sense. I mean, the cable co here would never get it and if they did, their 20 hour cap on a HD DVR does nothing for me. I would probably try to find another way to watch the games. Hopefully if it comes to that, there will be a way to stream them with a RoKu box or PS3 or something of that nature.


I agree, and to clarify what I said was Id stay if it went non exclusive like Extra Innings and the other packages. If its like mlb.tv, then its a whole different story.

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 05:15 PM

I think D* will still maintain the upper hand even if they renew NFLST on a non-exclusive basis.

1. D*'s HD is unmatched.
2. Could CableCos from coast to coast really alter their infrastructures to accommodate the capacities needed for NFLST for a few months out of a whole year?
3. Fios and Uverse is good on technology and PQ, but distribution is comparatively limited and will be so for the foreseeable future.
4. We all know E*'s stance on paying for anything.

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 05:32 PM

I see the story as an early negotiating tactic. The package is a very big plus for Direct. I don't see them dropping it at all, just trying to keep the cost of it down.

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 05:39 PM

The availability of Sunday Ticket remains of central importance to me as an 18-year DirecTV subscriber. It truly would prove a cosmic jape that as DirecTV finally is presenting most of the channels I desire in HD it would lose broadcast rights to NFL games, thereby obviating the ability to follow – albeit often in despair – my beloved Eagles.

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 06:19 PM

I think D* will still maintain the upper hand even if they renew NFLST on a non-exclusive basis.

1. D*'s HD is unmatched.
2. Could CableCos from coast to coast really alter their infrastructures to accommodate the capacities needed for NFLST for a few months out of a whole year?
3. Fios and Uverse is good on technology and PQ, but distribution is comparatively limited and will be so for the foreseeable future.
4. We all know E*'s stance on paying for anything.


shaw / rogers and others use MPEG 4 and or SDV to fit in Sunday Ticket and 9-15+ NHL CI HD feeds.
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 06:33 PM

With the advent of nfl red zone, I don't think NFL ST is worth as much as it used to be.

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 06:45 PM

Well it is cheaper than it was a few years ago which has gotten a cheap guy like me to pony up the money to get it. Red Zone is nice, but nothing like seeing your team from start to finish.

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 07:16 PM

Bah. Mike Florio is known to throw crap against the wall to see if any of it sticks.
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 07:35 PM

I'd follow ST to U-Verse or even Dish. Cable exclusivity would be a disaster for me. :(

RedZone doesn't do it for me. I want to watch football, not just scoring plays. I really hope this isn't the end of ST.

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 08:06 PM

I'd follow ST to U-Verse or even Dish. Cable exclusivity would be a disaster for me. :(

RedZone doesn't do it for me. I want to watch football, not just scoring plays. I really hope this isn't the end of ST.


U-verse covers to few areas and DISH still has the RSN game only HD joke.
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 08:10 PM

I see one of three things happening:

  • D* keeps it
  • D* shares it with other providers
  • Cable (Comcast?) swoops in and steals it away from D* :eek2:

Don't count the larger cable companies out, they now have, or will have, the bandwidth to carry it. The only problem is not all areas of the country can get cable, and not all cable companies have the bandwidth to add it.

It'll be interesting to see what happens.

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 08:11 PM

I'd follow ST to U-Verse or even Dish. Cable exclusivity would be a disaster for me. :(

RedZone doesn't do it for me. I want to watch football, not just scoring plays. I really hope this isn't the end of ST.


Where would Dish come up with the bandwidth to add all those games in SD and HD on Sundays?

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 08:16 PM

Here's another negative story about it.

Bleacher Report

IMHO this is just an early negotiating tactic by D*. The exclusivity has helped D* gain high revenue subscribers for years and they don't want to lose that. Of course, if the NFL wants an outrageous rights fee increase, I can see the argument against renewing. But D* will surely argue that between the Thursday night package and Red Zone, ST is worth less than in the past.

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 08:35 PM

Well it is cheaper than it was a few years ago which has gotten a cheap guy like me to pony up the money to get it. Red Zone is nice, but nothing like seeing your team from start to finish.

I wish they would bring the price down to say $99 and the max package $149. I know we can get deals if we call retention but I'd rather just sign up and not have to make that call.
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 08:59 PM

I agree with those who say this is an early negotiating ploy by D*.

The NFL cannot allow this package to be available to all America's 110,000,000 cable homes.

The current TV contracts ( FOX, CBS, NBC, ESPN ) run until 2021, and I can't imagine the 4 networks signed monster deals that far out without assurances of limited ST distribution.

Currently, ST is just over 12% of the NFL's total television revenue.

For better or worse, D* continues to be the best "singular" option for the NFL, and both sides know it.

It never hurts to throw a bit of weight around this far ahead of new contract negotiations.




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