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DirecTV could pull plug on NFL Sunday Ticket


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#26 OFFLINE   saleen351

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 09:11 PM

I complained and was made fun of last year for DTV being lazy with NFLST. With so many games on tv and RZ its far too expensive and they nothing to innovate.

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 09:34 PM

I sure hope this is just a negotiating tactic. NFLST is what brought me to Directv. Since then I've come to really love Directv's service, generally. But if I couldn't watch my Steelers play (and I mean watch every play of every game - Redzone just doesn't cut it for me), it would be tough staying with Directv, especially if it went to a provider other than cable that looked competitive in other respects.

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 09:45 PM

I see one of three things happening:

  • D* keeps it
  • D* shares it with other providers
  • Cable (Comcast?) swoops in and steals it away from D* :eek2:

Don't count the larger cable companies out, they now have, or will have, the bandwidth to carry it. The only problem is not all areas of the country can get cable, and not all cable companies have the bandwidth to add it.

It'll be interesting to see what happens.

but can cable handle commercials accounts with 8-15+ boxes? And let's just say must have a newer MPEG4 box to get NFT ST?

Can the SDV system really handle 8-15 HD part time needs on locals nodes all live at the same time + other non commercials needs (home users) at the same time who are on the same node?.

What about in demand will they even have the SD room to add NFL ST? Will they have to trun off Other HD of market sports to fit it in? Yes the NFT ST over laps with the NHL, NBA and MLB.
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Posted 07 March 2013 - 04:55 AM

In Canada every provider offers it.

For quite a bit less than DIRECTV charges.

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 05:37 AM

Sunday Ticket was and remains the chief reason why I have D*. If it were to go to another provider, I will likely follow that's just how important it is to me. But we have 2 more years of it on D*, so no time to panic.

In my area, the cable company (Comcast) has zero capacity for any additional high definition channels. If they were to get it, I'm sure they would have to black out channels on Sunday similar to the early days of HD and DirecTV (remember TNT being blacked out?).

In Canada every provider offers it.

For quite a bit less than DIRECTV charges.


But not all games are in HD at least on one provider up there (Shaw Direct)

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 07:01 AM

In Canada every provider offers it.

For quite a bit less than DIRECTV charges.


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Posted 07 March 2013 - 08:09 AM

I'd most likely leave if Directv dropped it. I think the only way I would stay with Directv was if the NFL made it available like MLB.tv where I could watch it on my Blu-Ray players and Xbox.

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 08:12 AM

Well it is cheaper than it was a few years ago which has gotten a cheap guy like me to pony up the money to get it. Red Zone is nice, but nothing like seeing your team from start to finish.


+1 As a displaced Patriot fan, RedZone wouldn't be beneficial. I dont really care about watching other games. If I want that kind of coverage, i'll just watch highlights.

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 08:16 AM

I complained and was made fun of last year for DTV being lazy with NFLST. With so many games on tv and RZ its far too expensive and they nothing to innovate.


To me, i'm not sure innovation really matters in a sports sub. The /main/ goal/priority of a sports sub is to provide the ability for someone to watch full live games of teams that are outside of their market. The RZ does not replace that ability, or come close. The RZ I think is more for the fan who likes to track multiple games, without having a vested fan intrest in them.

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 08:17 AM

How so? It's very difficult to find a decent sports bar without ST.


And therefore it is difficult to find a sports bar that does NOT have DirecTV. Imagine the lost revenue for D* if they lose regular subscribers AND the bars.

I agree with the other who say it's just saber rattling.

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 08:19 AM

i take anything florio says with a grain of salt. i'm not saying dtv could lose (or end up sharing) sunday ticket. but i would rather read or hear it from someone other than florio!

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 08:19 AM

I see the story as an early negotiating tactic. The package is a very big plus for Direct. I don't see them dropping it at all, just trying to keep the cost of it down.


That's exactly what it is, they're just trying to keep the price of the next contract down.

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 08:21 AM

I agree with those who say this is an early negotiating ploy by D*.

The NFL cannot allow this package to be available to all America's 110,000,000 cable homes.

The current TV contracts ( FOX, CBS, NBC, ESPN ) run until 2021, and I can't imagine the 4 networks signed monster deals that far out without assurances of limited ST distribution.

Currently, ST is just over 12% of the NFL's total television revenue.

For better or worse, D* continues to be the best "singular" option for the NFL, and both sides know it.

It never hurts to throw a bit of weight around this far ahead of new contract negotiations.


Am I missing something? How would widespread ST affect the games on local channels? It's meant for people who live outside of the market for that team, so wouldn't get it on their own locals anyway, and any game on a local is blacked out on the ST channel.
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And ESPN wouldn't matter at all, as ST is only the 1/4pm games on Sunday, all ESPN does is MNF.

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 09:43 AM

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 10:10 AM

Am I missing something? How would widespread ST affect the games on local channels? It's meant for people who live outside of the market for that team, so wouldn't get it on their own locals anyway, and any game on a local is blacked out on the ST channel.
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And ESPN wouldn't matter at all, as ST is only the 1/4pm games on Sunday, all ESPN does is MNF.


I agree with the ESPN situation, but on Sunday, if more people had ST, then more would be watching a game other than the one that is being shown on the local channel, so the local channel looses viewers. There are many people who do not have ST now that would rather watch a different game but end up watching the game on the local channel because that is the game tht is available.

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 10:21 AM

I see the story as an early negotiating tactic. The package is a very big plus for Direct. I don't see them dropping it at all, just trying to keep the cost of it down.


Yup, this.

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 10:21 AM

I agree with those who say this is an early negotiating ploy by D*.

The NFL cannot allow this package to be available to all America's 110,000,000 cable homes.


I also agree, no way the NFL lets this be available to everyone nationwide. Although I was surprised they let it be streamed on the PS3.

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 10:45 AM

If DIRECTV loses (or gives up) NFL-ST, it will either go exclusive to Dish, or be open for everyone. There's no way the NFL will allow a cable company to have it exclusively. No cable company covers enough of the country for that to be a viable option.

That said, I will have to go wherever ST goes. I won't like it, but I'll do it.

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 10:49 AM

If DIRECTV loses (or gives up) NFL-ST, it will either go exclusive to Dish, or be open for everyone. There's no way the NFL will allow a cable company to have it exclusively. No cable company covers enough of the country for that to be a viable option.

That said, I will have to go wherever ST goes. I won't like it, but I'll do it.


i doubt dish would ever want and/or get sunday ticket.

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 10:51 AM

To fleckerj: You're exactly right. Your comment about the protection of the local FOX and CBS affiliates is the reason those networks don't want widespread ST.

To HXG: You're exactly right. ESPN and NBC would not care... and honestly, I can't imagine what I was thinking when I included them in my comment! :)

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 11:06 AM

Am I missing something? How would widespread ST affect the games on local channels? It's meant for people who live outside of the market for that team, so wouldn't get it on their own locals anyway, and any game on a local is blacked out on the ST channel.
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And ESPN wouldn't matter at all, as ST is only the 1/4pm games on Sunday, all ESPN does is MNF.


Because of all the other games. I imagine like most areas your local channels show 3 games every Sunday. You local team, and two other games between non-local teams. The ratings for those two other games would probably be influenced a lot if all the sudden everyone with cable/satellite TV could watch games other than those two on the local channels. The ratings for the local team would probably be hurt a bit as well since some people aren't necessarily fans of the local team and might watch a different game instead.

By limiting Sunday Ticket to DirecTV they limit the number of people that have access to games other than the three being aired by the local channels.

This is the exact same reason they black out the games being carried locally on the Sunday Ticket channels. If they didn't some people might watch the same game on the Sunday Ticket channel instead of their local channel, which would hurt the ratings on the local channel even though the viewer is watching the same programming.

In Canada I imagine this isn't as big of a deal because I'm guessing the channels up there don't pay huge amounts of money for the exclusive rights to games in certain areas like the local networks do down here in the US.
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Posted 07 March 2013 - 11:09 AM

i doubt dish would ever want and/or get sunday ticket.


I agree with that, I was just pointing out the only viable options if DIRECTV doesn't renew their exclusive rights (which I think they will).

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 11:29 AM

In Canada every provider offers it.

For quite a bit less than DIRECTV charges.


Well I would hope so. With it not even being a league there, why would they change the same prices? I think it would be different if we had a team up there like MLB.

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 11:38 AM

Am I missing something? How would widespread ST affect the games on local channels? It's meant for people who live outside of the market for that team, so wouldn't get it on their own locals anyway, and any game on a local is blacked out on the ST channel.
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And ESPN wouldn't matter at all, as ST is only the 1/4pm games on Sunday, all ESPN does is MNF.


You are missing something. Not everyone has DirecTV or the ability to watch those out of market games. While you are correct that offering Sunday Ticket would not mean they are watching the local games on another channel it does give them options to watch a game other then what the local channel is offering. That is why I joined DirecTV. My choices here on Sundays without Sunday Ticket are Rams and Chiefs. NO THANKS! I would rather not watch football then see which one of them two is gonna suck it up worse on a weekly basis.

If Sunday Ticket were offered on all systems, alot of people would be watching an out of market game and not the local one offered. That would mean that the adds during the local NFL games are not seen by as many people and lower the price to run an add which means the local loses and also has to pay the NFL a large price tag to carry their games to begin with. Would you want to do business that way?

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 12:56 PM

If DirecTv drops NFL Sunday Ticket, They better get ready to drop me as a Subscriber and my $124.99 a month bill that i send them every month. Some months my bill is even higher than that. Where NFL Ticket Goes is Where I will go. I am a loyal DirecTv Subscriber for Sports & I don't want to switch my service. DirecTv had better Re-Up with the NFL.




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