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#126 OFFLINE   tonyd79

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 09:20 AM

And the TV ratings for those sports?


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Posted 10 March 2013 - 09:31 AM

I'll give him that but I agree,NFL football is getting soft compared to other sports, It was not like that in the 70's and 80's, same with NBA when lakers and celtics were going at each other or bulls and pistons were playing physical at each other, nowadays you'll get ejected and worst fined, and for football you'll get flagged for being too physical or rough, ain't that what the sport is about.

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 10:20 AM

I'll give him that but I agree,NFL football is getting soft compared to other sports, It was not like that in the 70's and 80's, same with NBA when lakers and celtics were going at each other or bulls and pistons were playing physical at each other, nowadays you'll get ejected and worst fined, and for football you'll get flagged for being too physical or rough, ain't that what the sport is about.


Concussions are a big deal with football and rightly so. Leading with the helmet is how these guys tackle now instead of using their body. Joe Paterno once said something about helmets. Something to the effect of take their face masks off and see how often they lead with them. I gotta agree with that. You can still have an exciting sport all the while be somewhat safe about it.

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 10:28 AM

for football you'll get flagged for being too physical or rough, ain't that what the sport is about.

Or for celebrating a touchdown in the end zone. :rolleyes:

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 10:40 AM

If you can't stand the heat get the hell out of the kitchen, but I understand what your saying. NBA= No Boys Allowed NFL=Not For Losers:)

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 10:51 AM

The same with soccer so many players flop or acts and tumble with pain just so the other player can get a yellow card, Some are legitimate fouls others just fall with a slight touch. And players fall for no reason grabbing their legs like they have a cramp just to waste time, if the score is in their favor.

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 11:24 AM

TV ratings made Snookie a star.


Even scarier, Honey Boo Boo :eek2:

Anyway, :backtotop, there's still a lot of time to sort this out - I'm in the "just sabre-rattling" camp on this one, for now.

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 11:26 AM

If you can't stand the heat get the hell out of the kitchen, but I understand what your saying. NBA= No Boys Allowed NFL=Not For Losers:)

Take any of your NBA - NFL players and have them get hit as hard as hockey players. Hockey players get teeth knocked out and stay in the game.
NFL players get TURF toe and are out WEEKS if not Months.

Here is some proof NBA NFL are not even in the top 5
http://bleacherrepor...-toughest-sport

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 11:53 AM

Take any of your NBA - NFL players and have them get hit as hard as hockey players. Hockey players get teeth knocked out and stay in the game.
NFL players get TURF toe and are out WEEKS if not Months.


Apparently you're unaware how severe and painful turf toe is. It's a minimum of 3 weeks to heal and it must heal completely because reinjuring isn't good.
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Posted 10 March 2013 - 02:36 PM

Apparently you're unaware how severe and painful turf toe is. It's a minimum of 3 weeks to heal and it must heal completely because reinjuring isn't good.

OK and tell me again when a NFL player ever got 15 stitches like nhl players and then went right back out and played another down. Oh wait never happened. I am a big football fan but I understand that football players are not near the toughest. In fact next Saturday since you have DirecTV turn on a rugby match and see what real men do. Or tonight turn on a NHL game. And if after that come and tell me that football players are tough.
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Posted 10 March 2013 - 03:18 PM

OK and tell me again when a NFL player ever got 15 stitches like nhl players and then went right back out and played another down. Oh wait never happened. I am a big football fan but I understand that football players are not near the toughest. In fact next Saturday since you have DirecTV turn on a rugby match and see what real men do. Or tonight turn on a NHL game. And if after that come and tell me that football players are tough.


Different sports have different demands. Depends on where the stitches are and if they would put a burden on a part of the player's body needed for play. Different injuries even mean different things even in the same position. A hand injury is important to a running back or quarterback but not as much to a lineman. A soccer player can play with a broken hand while I don't want a hockey or soccer goalie doing the same. Doesn't mean the soccer player is tougher than a hockey player.

And I've seen a football player sent to a hospital and come back and play.
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Posted 10 March 2013 - 03:40 PM

OK and tell me again when a NFL player ever got 15 stitches like nhl players and then went right back out and played another down. Oh wait never happened. I am a big football fan but I understand that football players are not near the toughest. In fact next Saturday since you have DirecTV turn on a rugby match and see what real men do. Or tonight turn on a NHL game. And if after that come and tell me that football players are tough.


I'm not sure where you think I was debating who's tougher. You simply made an ignorant statement about turf toe.

I'm very familiar with rugby; it's an amazing sport. It's not fair to try and compare it to football because the athletes are different on a few aspects. Rugby guys are all typically the same size; yes there's a few freaks. Football guys very a lot depending on position; O-lineman are around 6'6" 350, many corners crack the 200 pound mark. Conditioning and training is completely different, too. Rugby guys have superior endurance, but many lack explosive speed; not very many are running 4.3 40s, but they'd definitely win running a mile.

As for hockey, common sense and physics are why they hit so hard. Skating is faster than running, so force will be greater. Again, hockey guys are typically bread and trained differently.

Every elite sport is different and it's not fair to compare something like tough. Come to think of it, aren't boxers, MMA guys, Muay Thai fighters, etc the toughest? They beat the crap out of each other and have superior cardio.
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Posted 10 March 2013 - 04:48 PM

I know that times change when it comes to deciding calls played, NBA for example have to penalize big fines for igniting fights and get ejected, same with football for helmet to helmet colliding when the player is injured in the process, But you gotta understand this is competition and there's gonna be hard-nosed hits mainly for trash talking but that's what's exciting about the game. I know they have to lookout for their players too, but play it how is meant to be played not just rely everything to the referee.

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 04:51 PM

OK and tell me again when a NFL player ever got 15 stitches like nhl players and then went right back out and played another down. Oh wait never happened. I am a big football fan but I understand that football players are not near the toughest. In fact next Saturday since you have DirecTV turn on a rugby match and see what real men do. Or tonight turn on a NHL game. And if after that come and tell me that football players are tough.


15 stitches? have you not seen the old school football? They didn't bother with stitches--they kept playing. :)

Or Ronnie Lott, who had his finger tip removed between plays.

Obviously you poo-poo the NFL, and to a certain extent the NFL is trying to be mindful of health and safety. Yet...

When was the last time a rugby player got speared by a helmut occupied by someone weighing 350 pounds and could run a 4.4 40? There is some serious momentum under that very hard plastic.

In my mind all the elite athletes in their sports are incredibly tough people. Some more mental than physical, some are a balanced. Race car drivers, often kidded about just "pull the wheel to the left and push the pedal all day" are also very tough. Tremendous concentration for 2-5 hours, plus pulling that wheel ain't easy at 200 mph.

Nor do I confuse visciousness with toughness. But that's for another post.

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 04:54 PM

Take any of your NBA - NFL players and have them get hit as hard as hockey players. Hockey players get teeth knocked out and stay in the game.
NFL players get TURF toe and are out WEEKS if not Months.

Here is some proof NBA NFL are not even in the top 5
http://bleacherrepor...-toughest-sport


That report appears to be very ignorant of the NFL. And probably all the sports the author hasn't personally played in.

At the top level, they all require much more skill than he credits, much more endurance than imagined. The NFL requires an explosive endurance as opposed to a steady endurance like cycling, race driving, etc.

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 05:07 PM

Money is the big driver to the games nowadays which I understand, Before it was about competition,fans,stadium and hustle plays, now it's about branding,ticket sales and strict officials and injury stats.

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 06:20 PM

A. 4.4 40 is great but let me see them do that play in play out. That 4.4 is done when they are wearing spandex and not all there equipment.
I do like football and grew up watching R Lott of my 49ers. However the big hits that you hear is all plastic I'd rather see our football players with no pads and then guess what they wouldn't hit to much with there head.
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Posted 10 March 2013 - 06:59 PM

Take any of your NBA - NFL players and have them get hit as hard as hockey players. Hockey players get teeth knocked out and stay in the game.
NFL players get TURF toe and are out WEEKS if not Months.

Here is some proof NBA NFL are not even in the top 5
http://bleacherrepor...-toughest-sport

Come on, that list is not accurate! There isn't even any mention of bad-mitten. You ever been hit in the face with a shuttlecoc fired at you at 20 mph. It leaves a leaves a red mark, the size of a quarter. :rolleyes:
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Posted 10 March 2013 - 07:08 PM

Come on, that list is not accurate! There isn't even any mention of bad-mitten. You ever been hit in the face with a shuttlecoc fired at you at 20 mph. It leaves a leaves a red mark, the size of a quarter. :rolleyes:


A guy in my badminton class in college (don't laugh, all of us Kinesiology majors had to take 6 PE classes) partially tore his ACL in class. We all couldn't stop the jokes because he was fairly athletic.
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Posted 10 March 2013 - 07:18 PM

A guy in my badminton class in college (don't laugh, all of us Kinesiology majors had to take 6 PE classes) partially tore his ACL in class. We all couldn't stop the jokes because he was fairly athletic.

Sorry, I did laugh, not because you took it as a PE class for your major. Just thinking about the ribbing the poor guy had to take from everyone.
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Posted 11 March 2013 - 08:30 AM

What the heck is this thread about? lol

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 08:45 AM

OK and tell me again when a NFL player ever got 15 stitches like nhl players and then went right back out and played another down. Oh wait never happened.


I cannot answer for the NFL, but it happens all of the time on the high school and college level. I have even seen NCAA swimmers get stitches and return to the meet for their next event (I was a NCAA swimming referee for 20 years). The only requirement is that there is no visible blood on the uniform or soaked through the bandage. The rule regarding blood was not put in until AIDS became an issue, and it is in place for all high school and NCAA sports.

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 09:08 AM

What the heck is this thread about? lol

It was about weather DirecTV should keep the nflst after 2014.
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Posted 11 March 2013 - 09:37 AM

Sorry, I did laugh, not because you took it as a PE class for your major. Just thinking about the ribbing the poor guy had to take from everyone.


At first we all were quiet, but he made the first joke.
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Posted 28 March 2013 - 06:23 PM

2013 nfl schedule to be released april 16. :joy:

Just a heads up so everyone can get the "already get 43.87% of the games without st anyway" comments ready. :D




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