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Charlie Ergin is the most hated man in Hollywood


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#1 OFFLINE   dennispap

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 08:33 AM

http://www.hollywood...ergen-is-432288.

"His company has been labeled the "worst place to work in America," he's being sued by all four networks, and his ad-skipping Hopper could decimate TV industry economics as THR examines the troubling potential outcome of the entertainment business' ugliest fight."

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#2 OFFLINE   RasputinAXP

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 08:59 AM

Wow, that's quite the hit piece if I've ever seen one.

"Belligerent and numerous."

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 09:10 AM

Yep, it is quite a hit piece. They did get some things right, but not all.

But frankly I"m glad Charlie does what he does and how he does it most of the time.

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 11:01 AM

It's actually nice to have someone in charge that doesn't just bend over. It was a totally one sided piece but what do you expect?

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 11:20 AM

To paraphrase the summation of their article...

It's all enough to ask if the Hollywood Reporter is the most hated organization in Hollywood, and if so what can be done about it?

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 11:21 AM

"This story first appeared in the April 12 (2012?)
issue of The Hollywood Reporter magazine."

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 11:36 AM

"This story first appeared in the April 12 (2012?)
issue of The Hollywood Reporter magazine."


I'm sure since a whole year has passed his popularity has probably soared in Hollywood since then! ;)


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Posted 03 April 2013 - 11:37 AM

Sounds like he must be doing something right if Hollywood hates him so much. Wear it like a Badge Of Honor.

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 11:54 AM

"This story first appeared in the April 12 (2012?)
issue of The Hollywood Reporter magazine."


It is this year's edition dated April 12, 2013
http://www.hollywood...e/april-12-2013

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 12:49 PM

Wish I could afford to watch TV.

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 05:02 PM

Wish I could afford to watch TV.

We need to pay more in retrans fees so stations can pay their engineers?

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 07:15 PM

actually pretty amusing.

"Services [like Hopper] that undermine the economic fabric of our business aren't just illegal, they potentially destroy our ability to give the public what it wants," CBS chairman and CEO Leslie Moonves tells THR. Adds NBC Broadcasting chairman Ted Harbert, "I think this is an attack on our ecosystem."

What the public wants is less commercials. A no brainer.

I really don't get the "attack on our ecosystem" correlation.

Am I missing something here?:rolleyes:

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 08:32 PM

The Elite Liberals in Hollywood want the pheasants to watch the commercials.

Who is John Galt?

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 08:47 PM

Ok, not sure why people don't see that retrans fees are related to people skipping commercials. Advertisers don't want to pay huge amounts if people are going to skip them. So networks can't charge as much for a spot, so to make up they run more spots. That doesn't make up the difference so they go for the retrans fees.

So if we want fewer commercials, we actually have to watch them (restrict skipping commercials), or move to a HBO model where we pay $12 a channel.

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 10:09 PM

Fact - Dish Network is a horrible place to work.

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 11:09 PM

So if we want fewer commercials, we actually have to watch them (restrict skipping commercials), or move to a HBO model where we pay $12 a channel.

More like $18 (or less) for 8 channels (with HBO being the most expensive premium package).

So is any distributor saving money on retrans fees by forcing their customers to view the commercials on their channels? Or are channel providers the type of businesses that want to force people to view commercials AND pay a monthly fee to view the channel?

If broadcasters want to worry they should worry about Aereo. I do not expect Aereo to win the final court battle, but if they do it redefines retransmission. I would love to see proof of Aereo's claim that each of their user has their own personal antenna and DVR entirely separate from every other user's antenna and DVR. Aereo has limited their legal exposure by only offering in-market retransmission ... but if the court sees them for what they are - a service that provides retransmission of broadcast signals - they will need to follow the rules that apply to cable/satellite/IPTV providers. (And if the court allows their form of retransmission the court will need to rule in such a way that does not destroy the cable/satellite retransmission laws.)

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 02:11 AM

Actually, retransmission fees need to be banned for broadcast stations. Once it leaves the tower, it should no longer be under their control.

Also sounds like Madison Avenue chimed in above.
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Posted 04 April 2013 - 03:13 AM

Fact - Dish Network is a horrible place to work.


^Opinion.

I worked there too and its just as bad as any other place I've worked.
Stupid people calling in constantly surely does suck but they cant be avoided at most work places :P

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 04:49 AM

Poor Hollywood. Poor TV networks. People are going to skip commercials. That's never happened before. Oh ya, maybe it's happened since the invention of the home VCR. Or the skip button on the DVR remote. Or maybe as far back as the invention of the TV remote control to allow changing the channel without getting off the couch.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 05:49 AM

The Elite Liberals in Hollywood want the pheasants to watch the commercials.


Well, I actually agree. Commercials are for the birds.

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