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Do I own my HR34?


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#1 OFFLINE   toobs

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 03:14 PM

When I signed up with Directv last September, I paid $99 for HR34. Do I own the box or am I leasing it?

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 03:17 PM

Leasing

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 03:17 PM

You are leasing it. A purchase, if even offered on a HR34 would be $500 - $600
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Posted 05 April 2013 - 03:18 PM

You are leasing it for sure. There are very few owned Genie's.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 03:19 PM

How much am I leasing the box for?

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 03:22 PM

How much am I leasing the box for?

Receiver fee is $6.00/month plus your upfront. The upfront discounted price is in exchage for a 24 Month commitment. If the receiver needs to be replaced because it's faulty it will only cost you the shipping unless you are a Protection plan sub then it's free.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 03:23 PM

How much am I leasing the box for?

A "one time fee" of $99 it looks like.
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Posted 05 April 2013 - 03:30 PM

Ahh, thank you for the info.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 03:37 PM

Receiver fee is $6.00/month plus your upfront. The upfront discounted price is in exchage for a 24 Month commitment. If the receiver needs to be replaced because it's faulty it will only cost you the shipping unless you are a Protection plan sub then it's free.


It's a mirroring fee not a receiver fee. Just a heads up.
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Posted 05 April 2013 - 03:43 PM

Leasing. A owned one is like 600$ at least. And the 6.00 fee is mirroring fee for having more than one receiver, you pay that same fee regardless if the receiver is leased or owned.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 08:45 PM

lucky you only paid $99.00. Some others have paid much more than that and is still leased.
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Posted 05 April 2013 - 09:01 PM

Receiver fee is $6.00/month plus your upfront. The upfront discounted price is in exchage for a 24 Month commitment. If the receiver needs to be replaced because it's faulty it will only cost you the shipping unless you are a Protection plan sub then it's free.

Sat companies made a chimera in business model: mix a car leasing model (pay upfront, return a car) with mobile phones (subsidized the low price $100 vs $560 and stick with 12/24 months contract and own the phone after lease).
So, you must return the DVR/IRD in contrary of owning at lease end a cell phone, cheating point is the DVR has a price of iPhone, not a car ! And they will leased it again for pure profit.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 09:35 PM

Sat companies made a chimera in business model: mix a car leasing model (pay upfront, return a car) with mobile phones (subsidized the low price $100 vs $560 and stick with 12/24 months contract and own the phone after lease).
So, you must return the DVR/IRD in contrary of owning at lease end a cell phone, cheating point is the DVR has a price of iPhone, not a car ! And they will leased it again for pure profit.


These are two completely different models with completely different products. D*, whether on it's own or with the help of other companies, manufactures it's own equipment whereas wireless providers sell products from other companies who spent their own time and money on R&D and manufacturing. D*'s equipment belongs to them because they were the largest investor in the product. The rapid change in technology to support the devices using mobile technology is also advancing, causing a stronger push for new products to be released quite often. How often does D* or E* release a truly new device?

The other large factor is churn of equipment. Smart phones are sold and replaced in large quantities on a daily basis. Many long term customers, even on this forum, have had the same D* equipment for easily over 5 years. I don't know a single person still sporting a smart phone from 5 years ago.

Apples and oranges...
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Posted 05 April 2013 - 09:39 PM

Sat companies made a chimera in business model: mix a car leasing model (pay upfront, return a car) with mobile phones (subsidized the low price $100 vs $560 and stick with 12/24 months contract and own the phone after lease).
So, you must return the DVR/IRD in contrary of owning at lease end a cell phone, cheating point is the DVR has a price of iPhone, not a car ! And they will leased it again for pure profit.



My cell phone company won't give me a new phone until my contract is up just because it doesn't work any more like DIRECTV will, nor will the car company. It is sort of a mix of the two and there is no law that says you have to sign up with them. Either you agree or you don't but when you do then you shouldn't complain.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 09:44 PM

D*, whether on it's own or with the help of other companies, manufactures it's own equipment whereas wireless providers sell products from other companies who spent their own time and money on R&D and manufacturing


Slow down ... not so fast spilling the words ...

All that companies are the HW/SW designers and manufacturers, not sure what kind of agreement they have in use binary/libs from NDS between DTV and them.
Other arguments are insignificant and don't play here.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 09:47 PM

It's a mirroring fee not a receiver fee. Just a heads up.


How come you don't have a mirroring fee with all the devices that you connect to the Internet through a router?

I think they should let you buy the box and card.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 10:03 PM

Slow down ... not so fast spilling the words ...

All that companies are the HW/SW designers and manufacturers, not sure what kind of agreement they have in use binary/libs from NDS between DTV and them.
Other arguments are insignificant and don't play here.


Simply put:
D* currently offers D* receivers.
Wireless providers offer phones from Apple, Samsung, HTC, BlackBerry and LG just to name a few. BTW, most of those phones are offered all over the globe.
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Posted 05 April 2013 - 10:06 PM

Simply put:
D* currently offers D* receivers.
Wireless providers offer phones from Apple, Samsung, HTC, BlackBerry and LG just to name a few. BTW, most of those phones are offered all over the globe.

Are you kidding ? Or you're blind.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 10:07 PM

Either you agree or you don't but when you do then you shouldn't complain.


Words of wisdom right there. No one forced you to have the service. By keeping it you had agreed to the terms and conditions as stated by the agreement.

I personally do not agree with them charging customers fees for additional recievers either, especially moreso if you own the reciever. But in all it is their company and they can do what they want.

Are you kidding ? Or you're blind.


Hey now, their is no reason to bash other members. Chill out or get out.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 10:07 PM

How come you don't have a mirroring fee with all the devices that you connect to the Internet through a router?

I think they should let you buy the box and card.


Don't say that too loud or they'll start! Someone on these forums put the mirroring best when they compared it to family plans with cell phone companies. You have an overall charge for the plan and pay a mirroring fee for any additional phone to have access to the same plan.
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