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#26 OFFLINE   PCampbell

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 03:17 PM

You can just change every two years if low cost is what you are looking for.
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#27 OFFLINE   goinsleeper

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 04:31 PM

This post is just about making a public statement more than anything, but I've had to switch to Comcast for internet access. My other choice where I live was ATT DSL, which is now archaic. So I was getting 20 down and 4 up, and last week they called me and said if I took their TV bundle, I'd get 50 down and 10 up, for $5 more a month for 2 years. This makes TV and internet both $70 from Comcast.
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When something sounds too good to be true...! I'm curious to know the channel difference between what you are getting from D* and what their package would offer. I get offers from Comcast as well(I do have their internet service) and it's almost always for their next-to-nothing telelvision package.
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 06:23 PM

Unless something catastrophic happens with cable (FCC repeals the cable card requirement), I don't see myself ever going back to satellite. If I were a big sports fan, DirecTV would be the only option, but I'm not, so cable is more than satisfactory.


Canceled DirecTV last August after one year with TWC for TV along w/ Internet. I had suspended DirecTV for 2 six month intervals with one months service between. I have a low cost TiVo HD, so the CableCard and Tuning Adapter are crucial for me too. It took the local TWC awhile to get close to DirecTV as far as HD channels, but they caught up and in certain instances offer channels DirecTV doesn't. Thing I like is that since "Later...with Jools Holland" is on Palladia, that channel is on my Digital Explorer Pak, so I don't need the HD Extra Pak DirecTV requires.

I'd heard the doom an gloom here about going back to cable here. Didn't prove true for me.

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 10:31 PM

I am jumping ship, after 16+ years with Directv, to take advantage of a great 2 year deal with Comcast for Internet and tv it is saving me just over $900 for the two years and more than doubling my Internet speed.

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 10:38 PM

To thems who "jump ship" (your words, not mine), I completely understand. Yet this is what keeps the market competitive in the long run. I wish everyone well and hope their choices work as expected.

And we'll still be here. Come chat, have some laughs, and we'll compare notes. :)

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 06:24 AM

You can just change every two years if low cost is what you are looking for.


This is my point, DirecTV cannot compete with a bundle, because they cannot offer economical highspeed internet. At any rate, after more than a decade with DirecTV, low cost is obviously not my primary motive.

When something sounds too good to be true...! I'm curious to know the channel difference between what you are getting from D* and what their package would offer. I get offers from Comcast as well(I do have their internet service) and it's almost always for their next-to-nothing telelvision package.


While I have both I will do my best to report what I see up here, quality wise. Channel wise, TV is just not that important to me. If I lose some channels, I simply adjust and move on. As I said earlier, I am quite certain if I go about to duplicate my DirecTV setup with Comcast, the price for TV will likely be the same, BUT, Comcast will always have internet included within that price, and DirecTV can't.
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Posted 09 April 2013 - 12:42 PM

This post is just about making a public statement more than anything, but I've had to switch to Comcast for internet access. My other choice where I live was ATT DSL, which is now archaic. So I was getting 20 down and 4 up, and last week they called me and said if I took their TV bundle, I'd get 50 down and 10 up, for $5 more a month for 2 years. This makes TV and internet both $70 from Comcast.

What that does is make it increasingly hard to justify keeping satellite TV, which is probably the goal of Comcast's target marketing. Some of you may know I'm not a huge fan of TV in general, and now DirecTV is incredibly non-competitive for me. Even if they offered me free internet service, which they can't, they can't come close to that price or that speed.

Yes, I know the technical arguments, and I know pricing can and will vary, but for those like me who don't worship at the altar of TV, this sort of bundled pricing makes it tough to justify paying $140 (DirecTV) on top of $70 (Comcast).

Of note, this marks the first time this century I have considered leaving DirecTV for any other provider other than OTA only. :(


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Posted 09 April 2013 - 12:59 PM

I'm going to carry them both for awhile while I make up my mind. As another poster said, I'm paying that just for internet. The fact that TV had to come with it just opened up options I hadn't considered before.

I'd love to have given Uverse a try but ATT won't run fiber into my neighborhood for whatever reason. We have a 40+ year old wire plant. Same for Comcast, but hurricane Wilma ripped all their lines down and just last year they rewired the neighborhood.


Uverse sucks around here.

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 01:03 PM

After having satellite for years (DirecTV and Dish), cable finally became a viable alternative again last year in my area. Now that I've gone back to cable, I have a much lower bill, more HD, better picture quality and an excellent whole-home DVR. I use a WMC server with a pair of quad-tuner Cetons plus extenders in every room, so my DVR fee is a whopping $2/month and every additional room is free. Unless something catastrophic happens with cable (FCC repeals the cable card requirement), I don't see myself ever going back to satellite. If I were a big sports fan, DirecTV would be the only option, but I'm not, so cable is more than satisfactory.


Lets be honest here, most are not going to have a setup like that. Most of the time Cable DCVR's are a far cry from DirecTV's. The cable company in my town (CableOne) offers a HD DVR that holds 20 hours. Good lord that would not work for me. I probably have double that on my DVR now and that is the lowest its been in awhile. Not to mention normal Cable DVR fees are much more expensive and in some cases are a per receiver fee as well. You solution would not work for what 95% of the target audience?

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 01:07 PM

Why do people keep mentioning that the price will go up in two years when someone says they are switching carriers?

I think we all know that, but my $40 per month savings the first year and $20 per month savings the second year when I switched to FiOS put me $720 ahead of the game. I'll worry about the pricing and possibly going back to DirecTV when the two years are up.

There's so much more VOD, both free and premium, available on FiOS compared with DirecTV there's no comparison. At least that was the situation when I switched.

I'm in LA and not a pro football fan so Sunday Ticket was never a consideration. It looks like it will be another two years or so before LA gets a team.


Why are people so willing to change providers every 2 years? I guess I found the provider I am happy with that can provide more of my tv needs than any other provider out there. For that they get my business. I am sure I could get some of what I want cheaper somewhere else but I think I will pass. Kinds of reminds me of buying something you really want from a knockoff website you never heard of because its half the price and supposedly the same item as you are looking for. It never works out that way.

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 01:18 PM

Why are people so willing to change providers every 2 years? I guess I found the provider I am happy with that can provide more of my tv needs than any other provider out there. For that they get my business. I am sure I could get some of what I want cheaper somewhere else but I think I will pass. Kinds of reminds me of buying something you really want from a knockoff website you never heard of because its half the price and supposedly the same item as you are looking for. It never works out that way.


I hope thats a rhetorical question....there's one thing you can depend on, people are cheap and they will do whatever they can to get something cheap, even spend more time than its worth to try to get something cheap. Like spend an hour to get something for $5 cheaper...my time is worth a heck of lot more than $5 hour as is most people that work for a living.

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 01:51 PM

I think people have a different mindset including myself. I guess I remember how much cable was long ago and then see what it is now. I personally feel that if you are paying $100 or more for tv then you should get every channel they offer! People are cutting back because it's getting crazy. Everything seems to be going up except salaries!!!

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 02:16 PM

I see not worshiping at the alter of tv...but it does sound like you do worship at the internet speed alter...I get the price, but quite truthfully you couldnt pay me to use their all share the pipe topology...


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Here is today's http://www.speedtest.../2634645793.png
Ping of 0, Up is a slight bit faster, and 85.63 down.

It runs pretty consistent for me.

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 03:02 PM

People talking about how much their time is worth and yet having many thousand posts on an internet forum is kind of funny. lol

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 03:27 PM

Why are people so willing to change providers every 2 years? I guess I found the provider I am happy with that can provide more of my tv needs than any other provider out there. For that they get my business. I am sure I could get some of what I want cheaper somewhere else but I think I will pass. Kinds of reminds me of buying something you really want from a knockoff website you never heard of because its half the price and supposedly the same item as you are looking for. It never works out that way.


I agree but I think everyone looks at value differently. I'm willing to pay $73/mo for my internet because I use it frequently. There are others who may use it more than me but think $73 is ridiculous. I look at whether or not something is personally worth it to me before looking at costs. I feel too many people these days look at the cost before looking at the product/service then jump to their own conslusions.
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Posted 09 April 2013 - 03:40 PM

I agree but I think everyone looks at value differently. I'm willing to pay $73/mo for my internet because I use it frequently. There are others who may use it more than me but think $73 is ridiculous. I look at whether or not something is personally worth it to me before looking at costs. I feel too many people these days look at the cost before looking at the product/service then jump to their own conslusions.


Agreed. The culture is changing and people want to watch shows on their own schedule. The majority of all my friends seem to only ever watch TV shows on Netflix and rarely watch the premieres of new episodes. If you're strapped for cash the internet is really the only thing you need at home to provide entertainment so its no surprise most people are looking for value.

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 04:12 PM

Lets be honest here, most are not going to have a setup like that. Most of the time Cable DCVR's are a far cry from DirecTV's. The cable company in my town (CableOne) offers a HD DVR that holds 20 hours. Good lord that would not work for me. I probably have double that on my DVR now and that is the lowest its been in awhile. Not to mention normal Cable DVR fees are much more expensive and in some cases are a per receiver fee as well. You solution would not work for what 95% of the target audience?

Very true. I would not wish a cable DVR on anyone. They are shockingly antiquated. And WMC users are a very small group. But I just wanted to illustrate that it is possible to have a good DVR if you bring your own (even Tivo), and save a ton of money to boot. I thought I would never resort to WMC myself, but turns out it was much easier to set up and use than I ever dreamed. So I highly recommend it to anyone on cable. If WMC weren't an option, I'd still have DirecTV. In my current situation, I'm saving at least $40/month versus satellite or cable DVRs.

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 04:33 PM

I still have cable tv per se through my Internet even though there's only digital unscrambled QAM channels that the TV scans, when hooking another cable up from a 2-way splitter to the tv. But I heard there getting rid of those unscrambled channels also, At this point in time it doesn't seem to be a bad idea changing providers every 2 years just to get customer discounts if there's no other way get discounts or credits if you aren't eligible.

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 05:13 PM

It never hurts to ask for credits when you tell them that you are paying too much or you're struggling making payments, whenever you call about your situation they are willing to help you out if you feel you are paying too much, And if that doesn't work you can always say you are canceling to another provider to see what approach they'll make.

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 05:36 PM

People talking about how much their time is worth and yet having many thousand posts on an internet forum is kind of funny. lol



I think this is one of the best posts I have ever seen here!!:D You are right on with that post too.

The truth is it's nobody's business why people switch every two years. It doesn't mean that a person is cheap either. People do what is best for them and their family. Who are we call people cheap?? If you don't like it tough. I have no idea how people can be "fanboys" of a TV provider. There is way more to life than TV.

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 06:50 PM

People talking about how much their time is worth and yet having many thousand posts on an internet forum is kind of funny. lol


Because I want my DBSTalk pages to load extremely fast so I can post even more... :)

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 06:55 PM

I think this is one of the best posts I have ever seen here!!:D You are right on with that post too.

The truth is it's nobody's business why people switch every two years. It doesn't mean that a person is cheap either. People do what is best for them and their family. Who are we call people cheap?? If you don't like it tough. I have no idea how people can be "fanboys" of a TV provider. There is way more to life than TV.

I agree with you . It doesn't mean people are cheap if they want to save some money. How about this one. A fool and his money are soon parted. Why pay X for A, when you can get A and B for the same price?

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 06:59 PM

Why are people so willing to change providers every 2 years? I guess I found the provider I am happy with that can provide more of my tv needs than any other provider out there. For that they get my business. I am sure I could get some of what I want cheaper somewhere else but I think I will pass. Kinds of reminds me of buying something you really want from a knockoff website you never heard of because its half the price and supposedly the same item as you are looking for. It never works out that way.


I'll tell you exactly why. Five months ago, I was way out of contract with DTV, and I called to see if I could get a WHDVR, and some money knocked off. My bill had risen to about $100 a month, and I had two HR 22's that were painful to use. They said no, they couldn't do anything for me. I went to cable. They gave me a "deal", I already had phone and internet with them, and they were given me cable for $70 a month that included everything I wanted, and a WHDVR. 2 months later, they raised my phone and internet, about $25, and told me my guaranteed price was only on my cable. Then I called to cancel my home phone. There was a new tower built by my house, and I could now get great cell phone coverage. They were going to RAISE my bill another $30 if I cancelled home phone, because I'd be losing my bundle (even though they had told me my cable was on a separate contract). I answered one of the DTV's emails, and now I'm getting WHDVR, cinema connection, MLB EI, and Sunday Ticket for free, and the ultimate package for like $64 a month, and like $80 a month for the second year. So I've lowered my bill a considerable amount, gotten new equipment, and gotten more channels. I really had no intention of coming back, but their deal was too sweet to pass up. My install is tomorrow.
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Posted 09 April 2013 - 08:21 PM

Comcast Internet speed vs price sucks. I'm not sure about ATT but my local Telco offers 40 down and 20 up for $65 a month, which Comcast charges about $80 for 25 down and 5 up. If I could get my apartment manager to get phone line installed that isn't 40 years old I would switch from Comcast with out a second question. I would contact ATT first just to see what they may have in your area since you last inquired.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 01:30 PM

People talking about how much their time is worth and yet having many thousand posts on an internet forum is kind of funny. lol


MY time is worth money, That is why I have high Speed Internet.

On the other part of it. I do have well over 5,000 posts on another forum, However I'm a Moderator there so that is to be expected.

I value my time enough to not want to wait for something on slow Internet.
I'll be downloading the MS Patch Tuesday security fixes in a few moments. With the Fast Internet I won't even see an impact from that.

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