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#26 OFFLINE   lokar

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 10:03 AM

Picture quality for me is much, much better. I compared a game the other night. Mets/Phils were on ESPN and I compared it against the MLBTV version. Not even close. Much sharper picture.


So MLBTV has all ESPN and nationally telecast games? That makes me hate the NHL even more.

As for the topic, I am very close to cutting the cord myself and am going to suspend my D* account when the hockey playoffs end and see how long I can make it without D*. Finally tried out Amazon Prime on my PS3 a few days ago and was impressed with the PQ.

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#27 OFFLINE   DawgLink

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 10:08 AM

TV is getting so insanely expensive that I applaud those who cut the cord. I am a year or so away from cutting myself. Family members have ESPN Watch so I can get ESPN off my Xbox

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 10:11 AM

I helped a friend cut the cord last week. She had been paying for a triple play through Comcast that had risen to $160.00 a month. I proposed a CenturyLink package of DirecTV and 20MB internet for $75.00 a month for a year. She said no, she did not want to pay anything for TV. I brought over a $25.00 RCA flat antenna I got at Walmart and had good success getting all the major locals. Then we tried to see what was available over the cable without a cable box and was surprised to get about 60 channels. She was very happy with our results and then we called Centurylink and signed up for 20MB internet for $24.95 a month, bundling it with her Verizon cell phone.
Bottom line is she will save $135.00 a month. It will take a lifestyle change with no DVR, program guide or home phone but she is very happy and says she will have no trouble adapting.

To make things easier for her, I gave her access to my Slingbox, in case she has DVR withdraw. :D


I would just pull out ny old RePlay DVR that i used for OTA & C Band :)

#29 OFFLINE   joshjr

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 10:12 AM

I'm sure HBO would love to be a part of the basic package too. Just think how much cheaper HBO would be if everyone had to pay for it whether they want it or not. I understand most people on this site are hard core sports fans but in the real world most people would drop sports IF they had a chance. This is all academic at this point since it is not going to happen but don't try to make me like it.


If that were true then the providers would not make all these massive deals. If the majority didn't want it then it would not be cost effective to have and they would do away with it. I have ti disagree with you statement.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 10:29 AM

If that were true then the providers would not make all these massive deals. If the majority didn't want it then it would not be cost effective to have and they would do away with it. I have ti disagree with you statement.

The providers can make these massive deals because they are guaranteed a paying audience. You are correct, if we had a choice then it would not be cost effective but we have no choice, all or none.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 10:50 AM

I haven't had much luck convincing myself or my girl friend to cut cord but i would love to,my problem is i really don't know if it would the right dissension or not but every time i think of it i get really depressed.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 11:00 AM

Hopefully something will come along soon to change the way we view sports. I can't live without college football. Look at how torrents and peer2peer have changed the movie industry and music. Surely somebody is going to come up with something. I have internet through time warner and they block ESPN3 since I don't have cable. WTF? I really don't see how they are allowed to get away with it. They don't block hulu or any of the others. What's the difference?


The difference is simply they haven't gotten around to blocking Hulu yet. When too many people cut the cord, cable companies will become more aggressive in blocking those sites.

Also, content owners will start charging Hulu and other sites the same rates they used to charge the cable companies. The price of those sites will rise dramatically, and we'll all be right back where we started.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 12:25 PM

I also really don't understand why we have to pay for HD. I could understand it several years back when things were still in standard def but even the government gave you a device to be able to get the broadcast from hd to standard tv. If HD is now the norm why do we have to continue to pay for HD?

If they would just try and be a little bit more reasonable on pricing we wouldn't be having any of these conversations. Nobody should have to pay over $100 a month for television. $100 a month should give you the highest package with DVR and a couple receivers.
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Posted 10 April 2013 - 12:55 PM

The main problem always comes down to greed. People are just getting too greedy anymore. Especially investors. It's not good enough for a company to just make a profit anymore, now days they have to increase profits constantly or the investors get nervous/upset and the stock prices plummet, which in turn makes the company cut more corners to cut costs further and everyone ends up with crappier goods and services, as well as more jobs being outsourced to cut costs.
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Posted 10 April 2013 - 01:08 PM

The difference is simply they haven't gotten around to blocking Hulu yet. When too many people cut the cord, cable companies will become more aggressive in blocking those sites.

Also, content owners will start charging Hulu and other sites the same rates they used to charge the cable companies. The price of those sites will rise dramatically, and we'll all be right back where we started.


Not to mention there are data caps on alot of internet plans these days that already hinder people going to the net for all of their content.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 01:08 PM

I also really don't understand why we have to pay for HD. I could understand it several years back when things were still in standard def but even the government gave you a device to be able to get the broadcast from hd to standard tv. If HD is now the norm why do we have to continue to pay for HD?

If they would just try and be a little bit more reasonable on pricing we wouldn't be having any of these conversations. Nobody should have to pay over $100 a month for television. $100 a month should give you the highest package with DVR and a couple receivers.


Not sure where you get that HD is the norm. Digital is the norm. Not all digital is considered HD.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 01:28 PM

Not sure where you get that HD is the norm. Digital is the norm. Not all digital is considered HD.


Sorry. I guess I am used to all the local networks broadcasting HD over the air for free. Aren't most shows filmed in HD now? I am not being smart, just asking.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 01:42 PM

Sorry. I guess I am used to all the local networks broadcasting HD over the air for free. Aren't most shows filmed in HD now? I am not being smart, just asking.

Me either. I dont know that most shows are broadcast in HD either.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 02:03 PM

I think they are going to have to remove the HD charge in a few years. I think that's why they offer the free hd discount for autopay. In my area of Kentucky the major networks seem to air everything in hd for the most part. Even PBS.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 02:06 PM

The networks (local affiliate) are now banking on the re-transmission fees they are getting from cable and Sat. Even though they are sending them out Free OTA the revenue they are making from corded folks is crazy.

The Aereo story is going to be an interesting one to follow as Fox tries to keep that revenue in hand.
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Posted 10 April 2013 - 02:11 PM

So I'm going to take the plunge. I will really miss the ESPN family and Sunday Ticket, but I just did the math and realized I can save almost $1000 a year by switching to a Netflix only plan with a TiVo OTA receiver. I'm a huge sports nut but I just don't think it's worth the $83/month I'd have to pay to keep the channels and packages I want.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 02:14 PM

So I'm going to take the plunge. I will really miss the ESPN family and Sunday Ticket, but I just did the math and realized I can save almost $1000 a year by switching to a Netflix only plan with a TiVo OTA receiver. I'm a huge sports nut but I just don't think it's worth the $83/month I'd have to pay to keep the channels and packages I want.


Seems like most are not happy with just Netflix as a replacement. They end up needing Hulu, some stuff off Amazon or iTunes, better internet more frequent Red Box visits, etc. Not to mention alot of internet providers now days have caps on their plans. Streaming much in HD can eat through that cap pretty quick. Good luck to you, I hope it works out just the way you want it too.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 02:55 PM

Thanks JoshJr. I'm a little nervous since I've never been without some form of pay TV subscription before. I figure with Netflix and TiVo to record my OTA channels I will be fine. I doubt I'll miss it at all until football season, that will be the real test. We'll see how it goes.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 03:07 PM

Seems like most are not happy with just Netflix as a replacement. They end up needing Hulu, some stuff off Amazon or iTunes, better internet more frequent Red Box visits, etc. Not to mention alot of internet providers now days have caps on their plans. Streaming much in HD can eat through that cap pretty quick. Good luck to you, I hope it works out just the way you want it too.


I agree, it sounds like a good idea but once one crosses that bridge it typically isn't. It could work if your internet doesn't have a data cap and you are okay with having to wait some days for a new episode to be made available once it airs. I personally could probably do it as i do not watch much television cause content these days are lacking lol.

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 07:07 AM

So MLBTV has all ESPN and nationally telecast games? That makes me hate the NHL even more.

As for the topic, I am very close to cutting the cord myself and am going to suspend my D* account when the hockey playoffs end and see how long I can make it without D*. Finally tried out Amazon Prime on my PS3 a few days ago and was impressed with the PQ.


For this year they don't show the FOX and ESPN Sunday night game live. It is available after the game is over in their archives. Which is another good reason to have MLBTV. You can go back and watch any game that you may have missed or just want to watch again. Also I think the blackout for FOX games ends next season and maybe the ESPN Sunday game too?

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 08:51 AM

The only problem is that there is no one "cord cutting" option that does everything. You have Hulu that has contracts with certain networks, Netflix with different contracts and Amazon with different ones still. If there was one that provided all then cutting the cord would be a lot easier.


I tried about a year ago. It was a time that, for whatever reason, I was watching NetFlix most of the time. The idea went down the tubes when I gathered everyone around and told them what we could do with BD players, Rokus, Apple TV, etc.

First words out of my wife's mouth were, "How are you gonna watch the Yankees?" Yet another of my grand schemes went quickly down the toilet. She had a lot more to say about my scheme, but I quickly gave up.

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 09:03 AM

Obviously programming is the only reason to have tv service at all. If you dont care about any scripted programming, then you'd only need your tv for watching movies or live sporting events.


If it wasn't for the scripted shows on the movie channels, I'd drop the Premier package. Those shows are so good it's almost worth the cost of the package. I rarely record movies from that package and if I do, they usually sit there in my UPL unwatched.

I think the 10-13 episode scripted shows on HBO, Cinemax, Showtime and Starz are exceptional. I kinda wish the networks would follow this model instead of the 23 or so episodes a year. Go for quality instead of quantity. And we'd get more shows out of it.

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 09:11 AM

Maybe an ESPN issue? They still do 720p right? I've noticed on occasion that the picture quality on ESPN is not all that great...


Yup, 720p on ESPN. I do think the PQ is a bit better than Fox channels, but it's really annoying and very noticeable. A few weeks ago, I started watching The Vikings on the History channel. First scripted series on History and it's really good. Well cast, well written and it's in 720p. Watched the first episode and about 10 minutes in I was reaching for my TV remote and sure enough, 720p. What a waste of a very good show. Same thing with Justified. Very good series, but 720p.

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 09:17 AM

I haven't had much luck convincing myself or my girl friend to cut cord but i would love to,my problem is i really don't know if it would the right dissension or not but every time i think of it i get really depressed.

Oh whoa is you!! Stop & think about ALL the elderly who live on fixed incomes(which obama is about to whittle down again)who have to decide if their going to pay their heating bill this month, or eat. NOW THAT'S DEPRESSING!! TV is just a luxury MOST of us can do without.......

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 09:32 AM

Seems like most are not happy with just Netflix as a replacement. They end up needing Hulu, some stuff off Amazon or iTunes, better internet more frequent Red Box visits, etc. Not to mention alot of internet providers now days have caps on their plans. Streaming much in HD can eat through that cap pretty quick. Good luck to you, I hope it works out just the way you want it too.


NF, by itself, is definitely not the answer.

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