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#26 OFFLINE   Conundrum

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 08:38 PM

I see this as an "innocent" misunderstanding.  What I would do on my part is to pass to DirecTV this info so that they can properly train their CSRs (even tho it might not go nowhere) in the hopes that it wont happen to the next customer.  I would not expect any "compensation" since they were no "wrong doing" or "misleading" 

 

 

Innocent misunderstanding?

 

I guess DTV fanboys are no different than gaming fanboys...kinda interesting to note.



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Posted 20 April 2013 - 09:18 PM

Innocent misunderstanding?

 

I guess DTV fanboys are no different than gaming fanboys...kinda interesting to note.

It was a screw up.

"More than likely" the webpage phone number no longer is directed to the right group.

 

You're new here, so I won't pick on you, "but" had you taken the time to find this place before and asked your question, you would have heard you needed a 1.2 meter dish.


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Posted 20 April 2013 - 11:58 PM

It was a screw up.

"More than likely" the webpage phone number no longer is directed to the right group.

 

You're new here, so I won't pick on you, "but" had you taken the time to find this place before and asked your question, you would have heard you needed a 1.2 meter dish.

I understand that...but at the same time as I noted multiple times...any reasonable person would assume calling the number listed as being for Hawaii should have provided accurate info.

 

But I will agree that I'm betting it just goes to the regular sales floor...probably saved a few bucks by getting rid of the Hawaii people.



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Posted 21 April 2013 - 09:43 AM

I understand that...but at the same time as I noted multiple times...any reasonable person would assume calling the number listed as being for Hawaii should have provided accurate info.

 

But I will agree that I'm betting it just goes to the regular sales floor...probably saved a few bucks by getting rid of the Hawaii people.

There are tens of thousands of customer service reps, in many [many] locations.

The time of day you call has a lot to do with where you end up.

 

This isn't meant as an excuse, but just to give an idea of what you are dealing with.


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Posted 21 April 2013 - 10:32 AM



There are tens of thousands of customer service reps, in many [many] locations.

The time of day you call has a lot to do with where you end up.

 

This isn't meant as an excuse, but just to give an idea of what you are dealing with.

 

And not to come off as sounding boastful about the board here, but while there may indeed be knowledgeable CSRs, in the area of technical knowledge I personally find CS to be very poor for the most part over my many years with DIRECTV unfortunately and therefore never rely on it. I always come here to the board for that.

 

I only use CS for things like billing issues, discount deals, ordering equipment, service calls (for the increasingly few things I feel I cannot handle myself), etc. 


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Posted 21 April 2013 - 11:56 AM

It would surely be easier to make a list of consumer products that have good customer service than making a list of those with bad customer service. Off the top of my head, the only one I can think of with truly good customer service where the people are actually knowledgeable about the products and appear to care about the customer is Apple, though I've only ever dealt with them in the stores, I don't know how they are if you call them up.

 

Pretty much all companies seem to look at customer service as a cost center that's a necessary evil they wish they could do away with, so they'll do anything they can make it cheaper like outsourcing overseas, giving the minimal training possible so you always know way more than them if you spend more than a few minutes researching on the Internet, having so few CSRs you have to wait 10-15 minutes to talk to anyone so some people will give up, etc.


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Posted 21 April 2013 - 12:05 PM

It would surely be easier to make a list of consumer products that have good customer service than making a list of those with bad customer service. Off the top of my head, the only one I can think of with truly good customer service where the people are actually knowledgeable about the products and appear to care about the customer is Apple, though I've only ever dealt with them in the stores, I don't know how they are if you call them up.

 

Pretty much all companies seem to look at customer service as a cost center that's a necessary evil they wish they could do away with, so they'll do anything they can make it cheaper like outsourcing overseas, giving the minimal training possible so you always know way more than them if you spend more than a few minutes researching on the Internet, having so few CSRs you have to wait 10-15 minutes to talk to anyone so some people will give up, etc.

I've had wonderful CS from Amazon. Usually, it seems billing departments are the most frustrating.


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Posted 21 April 2013 - 12:13 PM

You don't need HOA's permission to install satellite dishes.......     All they can do is give you a guidelines on where they want you to install it which is fine.  But if the installation requires the dish to be installed in a location where LOS is required and it's in a spot where they don't prefer there is nothing they can do to deny you the right to service.   And if they levy a fine or any other cost due to that fact you can sue them and you will win.    



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Posted 21 April 2013 - 12:30 PM

You don't need HOA's permission to install satellite dishes.......    

As has been posted earlier, this is a 1.2 meter dish, and not a Slimline.


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Posted 21 April 2013 - 01:10 PM

You don't need HOA's permission to install satellite dishes.......     All they can do is give you a guidelines on where they want you to install it which is fine.  But if the installation requires the dish to be installed in a location where LOS is required and it's in a spot where they don't prefer there is nothing they can do to deny you the right to service.   And if they levy a fine or any other cost due to that fact you can sue them and you will win.    

I suggest you read the OTARD (or re-read it), because your info on this thread and another is incorrect. 


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Posted 21 April 2013 - 01:20 PM

Some people are still acting like I just called regular customer service...this is what I called.

 

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 01:36 PM

Some people are still acting like I just called regular customer service...this is what I called.

 

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But your call probably got routed to what turns out to be little more than regular CS on the technical training front if at all, is the point. :)

 

Believe me in my near 18 years with DIRECTV I've seen a lot worse technical incompetence from CS. Particularly from the level 1 front line CSRs.   


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Posted 21 April 2013 - 01:39 PM

Some people are still acting like I just called regular customer service...this is what I called.

 

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No I'm not "acting like" much.

What I think happened is the webpage isn't up to date, so the number now goes into the CSR "pool".

 

Googling that phone number pulls up this webpage: http://www.directv.c...assetId=3550007

 

The question about the dish is listed:

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 03:57 PM

No I'm not "acting like" much.

What I think happened is the webpage isn't up to date, so the number now goes into the CSR "pool".

 

Googling that phone number pulls up this webpage: http://www.directv.c...assetId=3550007

 

The question about the dish is listed:

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Yes indeed,

 

While the 1.2m ODU is correctly mentioned, you can see the obsolescence of that webpage and undoubtedly the associated phone number on it by the equipment listed.

 

1.2m dish for HD service makes no mention the more modern single ODU option using a SWiM multiswitch. But even more revealing of this webpages' age is the mention of the long obsolete first generation 87cm "round" dish ODU for international service instead of the current 24 x 36 elliptical DTV66E. :nono2:     


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Posted 22 April 2013 - 06:02 AM

I told a CSR that my installer used the old "the truck broke down" excuse for being 2 hours late, and I got 25 bucks off my first bill! Maybe because I didn't sound like a whiner who seems to have led a pretty sweet life up until now.



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Posted 22 April 2013 - 12:58 PM

Why do people get involved with HOAs?  The first question I ask a real estate agent is if the house I'm interested in has an HOA.  We have two HOA homes in our family and they seem to be more trouble than they're worth.  Or am I missing something?  

 

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 01:35 PM

Why do people get involved with HOAs?  The first question I ask a real estate agent is if the house I'm interested in has an HOA.  We have two HOA homes in our family and they seem to be more trouble than they're worth.  Or am I missing something?  
 
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As with anything, YMMV when it comes to HOA's. We have one where I live and they're practically invisible. My dish is plainly visible on the side of my house.

We did have someone who took it upon themselves to be a "rat" to our HOA and report every little nit picky thing. The HOA basically told them to STFU.
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Posted 22 April 2013 - 03:20 PM

Why do people get involved with HOAs?  The first question I ask a real estate agent is if the house I'm interested in has an HOA.  We have two HOA homes in our family and they seem to be more trouble than they're worth.  Or am I missing something?  

 

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Right on! HOAs can be a PITA


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Posted 22 April 2013 - 04:46 PM

Why do people get involved with HOAs?  The first question I ask a real estate agent is if the house I'm interested in has an HOA.  We have two HOA homes in our family and they seem to be more trouble than they're worth.  Or am I missing something?  

 

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Depends on if you want to live on the same block as the guy with the mail box on a 20' pole labeled as "air mail" or the guy across the street (who works for the state DOT) who painted their soffits with reflective green paint.  Looked OK during the day, but at night when cars drove by, it didn't. Then again, there are some HOAs that go overboard.


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Posted 22 April 2013 - 06:43 PM

I'd like to ask the OP, what exactly are you looking for here?  A mistake was made, you now have the correct info.  You've stated that for past 5 years you've been without American TV service, and might now want it anyway.  What's 3 more weeks to wait for the best TV out there? 


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Posted 22 April 2013 - 07:25 PM

I'd like to ask the OP, what exactly are you looking for here?  A mistake was made, you now have the correct info.  You've stated that for past 5 years you've been without American TV service, and might now want it anyway.  What's 3 more weeks to wait for the best TV out there? 

and….this was the point I was trying to make wayyyyyyy early on this thread…


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Posted 22 April 2013 - 07:37 PM

Why do people get involved with HOAs?  The first question I ask a real estate agent is if the house I'm interested in has an HOA.  We have two HOA homes in our family and they seem to be more trouble than they're worth.  Or am I missing something?  

 

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Why do people get involved with HOAs?  The first question I ask a real estate agent is if the house I'm interested in has an HOA.  We have two HOA homes in our family and they seem to be more trouble than they're worth.  Or am I missing something?  

 

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Go try and find a house in a new new neighborhood or develpment without a HOA....let us know what kind of luck you have.



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Posted 22 April 2013 - 07:38 PM

I'd like to ask the OP, what exactly are you looking for here?  A mistake was made, you now have the correct info.  You've stated that for past 5 years you've been without American TV service, and might now want it anyway.  What's 3 more weeks to wait for the best TV out there? 

 

 

I would think the title of the thread would answer that.



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Posted 22 April 2013 - 07:39 PM

and….this was the point I was trying to make wayyyyyyy early on this thread…

Actually your point was to be a white night for DTV and protect them from the mean old hater.

 

 

Yeah, that came through loud and clear.


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Posted 22 April 2013 - 07:47 PM

Actually

Everyone needs to vent every once and a while, but at some point it's time to move on, so "actually" what is the point now?

15 posts in this one thread should have been enough, right?


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