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#51 OFFLINE   spartanstew

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 07:52 PM

Why do people get involved with HOAs?  The first question I ask a real estate agent is if the house I'm interested in has an HOA.  We have two HOA homes in our family and they seem to be more trouble than they're worth.  Or am I missing something?  

 

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I ask the same question, because I'll only buy a house that has an HOA.  I've owned 5 houses in my life, 3 with HOA's and 2 without.  Never had an issue with any of the HOA's I've belonged to (including the current one) , but had lots of trouble with the 2 that didn't have them - including costing me money on resale.


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Posted 23 April 2013 - 09:07 AM

As with anything, YMMV when it comes to HOA's. We have one where I live and they're practically invisible. My dish is plainly visible on the side of my house.

We did have someone who took it upon themselves to be a "rat" to our HOA and report every little nit picky thing. The HOA basically told them to STFU.

 

You're lucky.  In Maryland, where some of my in-laws live they can't put up anything but a split-rail fence, no above ground pools, have to apply to put in trees, things like that.  And the president of the HOA lives across the street.  Not a pleasant person.

 

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 09:14 AM

Go try and find a house in a new new neighborhood or develpment without a HOA....let us know what kind of luck you have.

 

Come to NJ.  I've got a developement down the road a bit from me that started selling houses in the million dollar range (then the housing market tanked and they're unloading them for ~ $650,000) and no HOA.  Buy a house for half a million to a million dollars and you rarely see any signs of HOAs here.  Not trying to argue, just curious why folks get involved with them.  

 

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 10:16 AM

The thing in Hawaii is though, if TS or any other's HOA for that matter, does not allow the 1.2  meter ODU, that means they don't allow DIRECTV service altogether since there are no smaller dish alternatives. 


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Posted 23 April 2013 - 11:22 AM

Most of us spend time researching electronic devices costing hundreds before we but them. I hope everyone spends even more time doing diligence when buying a house costing thousands.

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 12:24 PM

It still doesn't change the fact that DirecTV is at fault 100% here since THEY are the ones that created and own the phone numbers and websites and have poorly trained CSRs on the other end of that so called "Special Hawaii phone number"! Joe Sixpack wouldn't and understandably shouldn't have to do ANY MORE RESEARCH than to call that so called "Special Hawaii phone number"! Otherwise what's the point of even having it? Some of you guys have seemed to lose touch with reality. It's analogous to blaming the victim for putting themselves in the position to have the crime put upon them for God's sake!

I don't know about you, but after serving my country for years outside the good ole US of A and then experiencing that incompetence and blatant mistake, I'd be pretty pissed off too!


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Posted 23 April 2013 - 01:44 PM

Come to NJ.  I've got a developement down the road a bit from me that started selling houses in the million dollar range (then the housing market tanked and they're unloading them for ~ $650,000) and no HOA.  Buy a house for half a million to a million dollars and you rarely see any signs of HOAs here.  Not trying to argue, just curious why folks get involved with them.  

 

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 02:22 PM

It still doesn't change the fact that DirecTV is at fault 100% here since THEY are the ones that created and own the phone numbers and websites and have poorly trained CSRs on the other end of that so called "Special Hawaii phone number"! Joe Sixpack wouldn't and understandably shouldn't have to do ANY MORE RESEARCH than to call that so called "Special Hawaii phone number"! Otherwise what's the point of even having it? Some of you guys have seemed to lose touch with reality. It's analogous to blaming the victim for putting themselves in the position to have the crime put upon them for God's sake!

I don't know about you, but after serving my country for years outside the good ole US of A and then experiencing that incompetence and blatant mistake, I'd be pretty pissed off too!

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 04:07 PM

It still doesn't change the fact that DirecTV is at fault 100% here ….

Nobody is denying this fact.  They did a mistake, it was corrected my the CSR who followed with the e-mail.  I think we should let this one rest….


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Posted 23 April 2013 - 06:22 PM

You and I know that's NOT the way this thread went. I felt guilty for the OP as I read it, like he was the one on trial by the DTV lovestruck masses that frequent here.
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Posted 23 April 2013 - 06:36 PM

Why do people get involved with HOAs? The first question I ask a real estate agent is if the house I'm interested in has an HOA. We have two HOA homes in our family and they seem to be more trouble than they're worth. Or am I missing something?

Rich

Living in a neighborhood where 1 or 2 neighbors cut the grass at the last possible second or have their yard looking cluttered or have their large breed dog running around the block with no care in the world with no owner in site I can see why. :-|

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 08:42 PM

 by the DTV lovestruck masses that frequent here.

and what is to be expected on a forum where folks who loved DirecTV frequent?  Perhaps if the OP had posted on the dish forums, he would of got the "love" he was seeking,


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Posted 23 April 2013 - 09:07 PM

Nobody is denying this fact.  They did a mistake, it was corrected my the CSR who followed with the e-mail.  I think we should let this one rest….

How do you think that email corrected the mistake?  The TS has to wait 2 weeks for the HOA and 1-2 weeks after the approval for an install. That email certainly didn't 'correct' that. 

 

And did you notice the email listed a link to directv.com/Hawaii which takes you to this page (http://www.directv.c...equestid=910693) which doesn't even list any information about Hawaii?

 

It was nice that the email contained an apology, but they should have set him up with the local installer so that when he calls, he'll get the first possible install.



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Posted 23 April 2013 - 09:13 PM

The thing in Hawaii is though, if TS or any other's HOA for that matter, does not allow the 1.2  meter ODU, that means they don't allow DIRECTV service altogether since there are no smaller dish alternatives. 

They allow it, many other homes in the development(s) have them.  You just have to kiss the ring of the HOA first to make them feel good.  I was told by The selling agent that they are actually looking at doing blanket pre-approvals for them, but haven't done it yet.



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Posted 23 April 2013 - 09:14 PM

Most of us spend time researching electronic devices costing hundreds before we but them. I hope everyone spends even more time doing diligence when buying a house costing thousands.

The rest of us learned reading comprehension pretty early in our elementary school days...obviously this wasn't you.



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Posted 23 April 2013 - 09:16 PM

It still doesn't change the fact that DirecTV is at fault 100% here since THEY are the ones that created and own the phone numbers and websites and have poorly trained CSRs on the other end of that so called "Special Hawaii phone number"! Joe Sixpack wouldn't and understandably shouldn't have to do ANY MORE RESEARCH than to call that so called "Special Hawaii phone number"! Otherwise what's the point of even having it? Some of you guys have seemed to lose touch with reality. It's analogous to blaming the victim for putting themselves in the position to have the crime put upon them for God's sake!

I don't know about you, but after serving my country for years outside the good ole US of A and then experiencing that incompetence and blatant mistake, I'd be pretty pissed off too!

Fanboys are idiots, I just accept that as an axiom.  I've dealth with them for years or TV/Movie/Game forums.  I am kinda surprised to find them on Satellite TV site...though I guess I shouldn't be really.



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Posted 23 April 2013 - 09:18 PM

Nobody is denying this fact.  They did a mistake, it was corrected my the CSR who followed with the e-mail.  I think we should let this one rest….

Really?  A patronizing email is "correcting the mistake"?

 

 

Wait...why am I arguing with a DTV White Knight determined to defend their honor.



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Posted 24 April 2013 - 12:32 AM

Yep :rolleyes:
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Posted 24 April 2013 - 06:06 AM

Really?  A patronizing email is "correcting the mistake"?

 

 

Wait...why am I arguing with a DTV White Knight determined to defend their honor.

Did you or did you not get the correct info on the e-mail?    The problem "seems"  not to be "fixed" because that e-mail did not have any "free stuff"  and IIRC correctly, no "freebies" can't be given out to potential customers.


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Posted 24 April 2013 - 07:24 AM

Pretty hard to argue with that, but they will here... lol 

 

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Posted 24 April 2013 - 07:59 AM

Did you or did you not get the correct info on the e-mail?    The problem "seems"  not to be "fixed" because that e-mail did not have any "free stuff"  and IIRC correctly, no "freebies" can't be given out to potential customers.

try that directv.com/hawaii URL out from the response and you tell me.



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Posted 24 April 2013 - 08:38 AM

Did you or did you not get the correct info on the e-mail?    The problem "seems"  not to be "fixed" because that e-mail did not have any "free stuff"  and IIRC correctly, no "freebies" can't be given out to potential customers.

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Posted 24 April 2013 - 09:08 AM

Fanboys are idiots, I just accept that as an axiom.  I've dealth (dealt) with them for years or TV/Movie/Game forums.  I am kinda surprised to find them on Satellite (a satellite) TV site...though I guess I shouldn't be really.

 

The rest of us learned reading comprehension pretty early in our elementary school days...obviously this wasn't you.

Did they skip over grammar & proofreading while focusing on reading comprehension?


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Posted 24 April 2013 - 09:11 AM

I see this as an "innocent" misunderstanding.  What I would do on my part is to pass to DirecTV this info so that they can properly train their CSRs (even tho it might not go nowhere) in the hopes that it wont happen to the next customer.  I would not expect any "compensation" since they were no "wrong doing" or "misleading" 

I am a Tech Support Trainer and this certainly isn't an "innocent misunderstanding" and I don't want any of my customers thinking that.  It is common knowledge that AK/HI require larger dishes.  If the CSRs that he spoke to didn't pass on this information then they are poorly trained or just inattentive.  They are trained to know this and the information is readily available. 


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Posted 24 April 2013 - 09:33 AM

Did they skip over grammar & proofreading while focusing on reading comprehension?

... for years or (on) TV/Movie/Game forums.

 

And to add that "or" should have been "on" in the TS' earlier statement as well.  :P


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