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#1 OFFLINE   sdk009

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 02:28 PM

With the events happening rather rapidly in the Boston area, it sure would be nice if the News Mix was on so that we could monitor more than one channel at a time. 


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#2 OFFLINE   itzme

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 02:59 PM

I agree. I rarely used it, but I liked it when I did. Having a plasma, I liked that it also would dim if I just left it on.

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 04:05 PM

They all regurgitate what each other spits out when something like this happens. When it's a normal day Fox is lambasting liberals, MSNBC is wondering why conservatives are loony nowadays, CNN is trying to be neutral and coming off as no where close and HLN is honestly like watching a TV version of the Star and Enquirer. 


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Posted 19 April 2013 - 05:56 PM

maybe there is hope that it can come back in HD only.

 

MLBEI mix has gone HD only.


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Posted 20 April 2013 - 06:51 AM

They all regurgitate what each other spits out when something like this happens. When it's a normal day Fox is lambasting liberals, MSNBC is wondering why conservatives are loony nowadays, CNN is trying to be neutral and coming off as no where close and HLN is honestly like watching a TV version of the Star and Enquirer. 

 

It isn't needed on "normal" days but when an important event was going on it was a good place to keep up.



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Posted 20 April 2013 - 11:40 AM

It isn't needed on "normal" days but when an important event was going on it was a good place to keep up.

Like I said though they all say the same as each other when an event like that happens so what would be the point of seeing it on multiple channels if it's all the same?



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Posted 20 April 2013 - 12:05 PM

The News Mix channel would have been very useful, considering this week's events.

 

Though, I did not see a use for everyday events, a channel which would be a matrix of local station, in an affected area, be it a natural disaster 9/11 or the Boston Marathon bombing would have been very useful. For example, with NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, FOX, FOX News, MSNBC, et. al. speculating, the Boston stations were closer to the action and getting the news. It was their NBC affiliate last night which was the most on top of things. Another example, Hurricane Ike, In Houston, having the feeds of the stations in a matrix was useful. Fortunately, KTRK had their feed on the internet. And of course, 9/11, I had distant networks then and having the New York stations was very useful over the national news outlets.

 

The technology exists for major news events. But, NAB, the FCC and Congress makes this kind of arrangement next to impossible. So much for the airwaves serving the public interest.

 

Finally, last night, the above mentioned networks all looked like a second guessing contest. The only people who knew what they were doing, newscast wise, were the local Boston area TV stations.



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Posted 20 April 2013 - 02:49 PM

The News Mix channel would have been very useful, considering this week's events.

 

Though, I did not see a use for everyday events, a channel which would be a matrix of local station, in an affected area, be it a natural disaster 9/11 or the Boston Marathon bombing would have been very useful. For example, with NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, FOX, FOX News, MSNBC, et. al. speculating, the Boston stations were closer to the action and getting the news. It was their NBC affiliate last night which was the most on top of things. Another example, Hurricane Ike, In Houston, having the feeds of the stations in a matrix was useful. Fortunately, KTRK had their feed on the internet. And of course, 9/11, I had distant networks then and having the New York stations was very useful over the national news outlets.

 

The technology exists for major news events. But, NAB, the FCC and Congress makes this kind of arrangement next to impossible. So much for the airwaves serving the public interest.

 

Finally, last night, the above mentioned networks all looked like a second guessing contest. The only people who knew what they were doing, newscast wise, were the local Boston area TV stations.

A news mix channel for something like this would have been nice. I think it would be a good addition for DirecTV to add a mix channel of the local new channels whenever something like this occurs. Obviously local channels get things right more so than the national channels faster.



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Posted 20 April 2013 - 11:47 PM

A news mix channel for something like this would have been nice. I think it would be a good addition for DirecTV to add a mix channel of the local new channels whenever something like this occurs. Obviously local channels get things right more so than the national channels faster.

 

I was actually able to watch a lot of local coverage from Boston using the Sports Pack. NESN was simulcasting WBZ-TV and CSN New England was simulcasting New England Cable News.



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Posted 21 April 2013 - 08:05 AM

I was actually able to watch a lot of local coverage from Boston using the Sports Pack. NESN was simulcasting WBZ-TV and CSN New England was simulcasting New England Cable News.

I never even thought of checking those channels.



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Posted 21 April 2013 - 11:30 AM

Apparent, DBSTalk now takes phrases and creates links to advertising sites. The link, in my post above, was not entered by me; it was generated.

 

It is bad enough to be hit with advertising from all directions, but to change people's posts goes a bit too far.

 

By the way, the link goes to an E-Bay site that sells t-shirts; somebody making a profit off a tragedy; even more disgraceful.

 

To the moderators and DBStalk, please turn off this "feature"



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Posted 21 April 2013 - 12:15 PM

Apparent, DBSTalk now takes phrases and creates links to advertising sites. The link, in my post above, was not entered by me; it was generated.

 

It is bad enough to be hit with advertising from all directions, but to change people's posts goes a bit too far.

 

By the way, the link goes to an E-Bay site that sells t-shirts; somebody making a profit off a tragedy; even more disgraceful.

 

To the moderators and DBStalk, please turn off this "feature"

I don't see a link but that might be because I'm running ad blocker on Chrome. Either way though yea. That's not cool at all. 



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Posted 21 April 2013 - 02:45 PM

I don't see a link but that might be because I'm running ad blocker on Chrome. Either way though yea. That's not cool at all. 

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 03:55 PM

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 05:36 PM

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 05:52 PM

I am a dbstalk member.

To be more specific ... a "DBSTalk Club" member.

I tried viewing your previous post while logged out (no ads blocked) and did not see any links in your prior text. If you still see links in that message please send a PM so we can help investigate the problem.


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Posted 23 April 2013 - 11:11 AM

In his post (post #7) the words "Boston Marathon bombing" are a link for me.  If you hover your mouse over the words it says "Link Added by VigLink".  If you click on the link it takes you to an eBay listing for a Boston Marathon bombing remembrance t-shirt.  I'm using IE 9.


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Posted 23 April 2013 - 01:15 PM

In his post (post #7) the words "Boston Marathon bombing" are a link for me.  If you hover your mouse over the words it says "Link Added by VigLink".  If you click on the link it takes you to an eBay listing for a Boston Marathon bombing remembrance t-shirt.  I'm using IE 9.

 

No links in post 7 for me. However, there are two in your post. One for VigLink and the other for eBay.


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Posted 23 April 2013 - 05:51 PM

No links in post 7 for me. However, there are two in your post. One for VigLink and the other for eBay.

 

I'm seeing what you are seeing (IE7). I normally use FireFox but keep IE7 around for accessing a couple of sites that require IE (and I don't want to use a compatibility mode).

 

We had VigLink on the old site ... David has tweaked the settings and DBSTalk club members should now be able to turn it off in their settings. (Or leave it on and help support the site.)

 

 

As for the topic of the News Mix ... it seems that some want something that was not routinely offered when there was a news mix. The hurricane channel was (and is) a good idea when stations go wall to wall news for a major predictable event (giving DirecTV enough time to talk to the stations and set up the channel). A spur of the moment local news mix would be interesting ... but not being from Boston I wonder how much of last week's television broadcast was live news.

 

If DirecTV had a nimble system for contacting stations, getting permissions and building the mix they could have started the channel late Monday night ... but it would have needed to be blacked out outside of the Boston market at any time they were not airing content the stations had national rights to air (either that or black out that station's feed on the mix). There were peak times where I assume all Boston stations with news were news ... but DirecTV would need to be agile to show each feed when they could and drop each feed when they couldn't carry it nationally. It is a lot to ask.

 

In general DirecTV is in the business of picking up feeds and retransmitting them without editing. A local channel news mix could approach the production level of the Red Zone Channel ... with a dedicated staff making sure no rights were violated. That gets expensive.


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Posted 23 April 2013 - 08:10 PM

I'm seeing what you are seeing (IE7). I normally use FireFox but keep IE7 around for accessing a couple of sites that require IE (and I don't want to use a compatibility mode).
 
We had VigLink on the old site ... David has tweaked the settings and DBSTalk club members should now be able to turn it off in their settings. (Or leave it on and help support the site.)
 
 


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Posted 24 April 2013 - 12:53 PM

According to what CNN said, the Boston stations were pretty much running continuous coverage at the beginning,Thursday night and of course all day Friday..Just like New York did after 9/11.

 

Also, WSBK could have been pulled at; it's a superstations, though I think it is now affiliated with MyTV, after dropping CW. They were simulcasting WBZ, as it is a partially owned by them. By the way, I know DirecTV does not offer KTLA, KWGN, WPIX, WWOR and WSBK as a superstation package, while DISH does (something I do miss since switching, because it was nice getting the newscasts from these cities). But, the signals for these stations are available continental US. This may be an option fro DirectTV, to obtain breaking news in LA, Denver, New York or Boston; WGN, would always cut in if something happened in Chicago.

 

 

 

Thank you for looking into the links issue; it is greatly appreciated.

 

 

I'm seeing what you are seeing (IE7). I normally use FireFox but keep IE7 around for accessing a couple of sites that require IE (and I don't want to use a compatibility mode).

 

We had VigLink on the old site ... David has tweaked the settings and DBSTalk club members should now be able to turn it off in their settings. (Or leave it on and help support the site.)

 

 

As for the topic of the News Mix ... it seems that some want something that was not routinely offered when there was a news mix. The hurricane channel was (and is) a good idea when stations go wall to wall news for a major predictable event (giving DirecTV enough time to talk to the stations and set up the channel). A spur of the moment local news mix would be interesting ... but not being from Boston I wonder how much of last week's television broadcast was live news.

 

If DirecTV had a nimble system for contacting stations, getting permissions and building the mix they could have started the channel late Monday night ... but it would have needed to be blacked out outside of the Boston market at any time they were not airing content the stations had national rights to air (either that or black out that station's feed on the mix). There were peak times where I assume all Boston stations with news were news ... but DirecTV would need to be agile to show each feed when they could and drop each feed when they couldn't carry it nationally. It is a lot to ask.

 

In general DirecTV is in the business of picking up feeds and retransmitting them without editing. A local channel news mix could approach the production level of the Red Zone Channel ... with a dedicated staff making sure no rights were violated. That gets expensive.

 

 

 

 

 

 



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Posted 24 April 2013 - 12:59 PM

WSBK wasn't running news 24/7, they were clearing the CBS programming pre-empted by WBZ.

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 10:37 AM

According to what CNN said, the Boston stations were pretty much running continuous coverage at the beginning,Thursday night and of course all day Friday..Just like New York did after 9/11.

 

Also, WSBK could have been pulled at; it's a superstations, though I think it is now affiliated with MyTV, after dropping CW. They were simulcasting WBZ, as it is a partially owned by them. By the way, I know DirecTV does not offer KTLA, KWGN, WPIX, WWOR and WSBK as a superstation package, while DISH does (something I do miss since switching, because it was nice getting the newscasts from these cities). But, the signals for these stations are available continental US. This may be an option fro DirectTV, to obtain breaking news in LA, Denver, New York or Boston; WGN, would always cut in if something happened in Chicago.

 

 

 

Thank you for looking into the links issue; it is greatly appreciated.

 

 

WSBK never ran the CW.  It had UPN but did not get the CW when the WB and UPN mergert happened.   It is not partailly owned by WBZ---they are both wholly owned by CBS.    It did nto have 24/7 news coverage either----though it did have quite a bit.


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Posted 01 June 2013 - 12:59 AM

How did you like Newsmix during the Tornado outbreaks over the past 2 weeks, trying to find the best coverage - especially Friday night when good quality pictures were hard to come by?


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Posted 01 June 2013 - 02:36 AM

I take it you didn't turn on The Weather Channel who was dipping into live coverage from local stations in OKC and St Louis? Or even CNN who, instead of showing their usual overnight encores, is having continuing live coverage with CNN International's anchors?

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