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#26 OFFLINE   wingrider01

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 05:56 AM

I remember when the HR34 was introduced, people were going crazy trying to get one. There were almost hourly updates on availability.

Then the HR44 is announced, and the HR34 becomes a "POS." :shrug:

The two units run the same software, have the same number of tuners and storage capacity. The major difference is that the HR44 has an outboard power supply and a smaller form factor. I can see little evidence that one model is more or less reliable than the other when running the same software release. While the HR44 is somewhat faster, I would hardly call the HR34 "slow" (it is comparable to our HR24s and H25s).

As to why only one Genie is allowed per account, I suspect it is more an issue with the current state of RVU client software (both the DirecTV clients and RVU capable TVs) than anything else.

 

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 06:42 AM

The sheep always want the newest toys.....then those same sheep will be the ones screaming that there are bugs...etc....happens with every new model.  You'd think a few of them would learn every cycle but they never do.



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Posted 28 May 2013 - 07:25 AM

I remember when the HR34 was introduced, people were going crazy trying to get one. There were almost hourly updates on availability.

Then the HR44 is announced, and the HR34 becomes a "POS." :shrug:

The two units run the same software, have the same number of tuners and storage capacity. The major difference is that the HR44 has an outboard power supply and a smaller form factor. I can see little evidence that one model is more or less reliable than the other when running the same software release. While the HR44 is somewhat faster, I would hardly call the HR34 "slow" (it is comparable to our HR24s and H25s).

As to why only one Genie is allowed per account, I suspect it is more an issue with the current state of RVU client software (both the DirecTV clients and RVU capable TVs) than anything else.

That and they probably really don't want to have to install a SWM16 just for two boxes, though now you could need it for as few as three but I'm sure there are a lot of customers out there that if they got a second Genie would need one.



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Posted 28 May 2013 - 07:26 PM

probably really don't want to have to install a SWM16 just for two boxes,  

 

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 07:31 PM

That would be fine with me, deactivate this pos 34 and come get it!

I would rather have the HR34 I have right now.  HR 44 too new for me. Give them time I'm sure there will be a lot of threads bitching about the HR44.


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Posted 28 May 2013 - 07:41 PM

I would rather have the HR34 I have right now.  HR 44 too new for me. Give them time I'm sure there will be a lot of threads bitching about the HR44.

Doubtful, HR44 is just the hardware refresh. All good. Smaller, faster, better, same firmware as predecessor.
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Posted 28 May 2013 - 07:44 PM

i got a hr20 and 22 in one place and and old non hddvr and i want the smallest dvr i can get and onboard wifi and im gonna use 3 min genies and i heard the 34 lags alot with a alot of mini genies running on it



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Posted 28 May 2013 - 08:15 PM

Doubtful, HR44 is just the hardware refresh. All good. Smaller, faster, better, same firmware as predecessor.

Yea, Heard that before. LOL!  we'll see!


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Posted 28 May 2013 - 08:17 PM

Doubtful, HR44 is just the hardware refresh. All good. Smaller, faster, better, same firmware as predecessor.

Plus I'll never know, since Directv doesn't give HR34 owner free upgrades to HR44's. 


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 11:15 AM

It's possible if your HR34 ever goes bad, you could end up with a 44. There will be a point where there will be more 44s than 34s.



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Posted 29 May 2013 - 11:24 AM

Does anybody know if the HR44 is available in the northern part of Illinois? as I just called and got a free upgrade for the Genie which I know it will be the 34 but prefer the 44, but I can always reschedule even though they don't guarantee which model you get, Could be a luck of the draw.

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 11:41 AM

I remember when the HR34 was introduced, people were going crazy trying to get one. There were almost hourly updates on availability.

Then the HR44 is announced, and the HR34 becomes a "POS." :shrug:

The two units run the same software, have the same number of tuners and storage capacity. The major difference is that the HR44 has an outboard power supply and a smaller form factor. I can see little evidence that one model is more or less reliable than the other when running the same software release. While the HR44 is somewhat faster, I would hardly call the HR34 "slow" (it is comparable to our HR24s and H25s).

As to why only one Genie is allowed per account, I suspect it is more an issue with the current state of RVU client software (both the DirecTV clients and RVU capable TVs) than anything else.

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 12:01 PM

Does anybody know if the HR44 is available in the northern part of Illinois? as I just called and got a free upgrade for the Genie which I know it will be the 34 but prefer the 44, but I can always reschedule even though they don't guarantee which model you get, Could be a luck of the draw.

 

I have seen some people in Chicago getting the HR44 (IIRC aren't you in the Chicago DMA?) so your chances are pretty good...if you set up an upgrade you might want to have them list in your tech instructions something like "HR44 will be only accepted Genie, if technician arrives with HR34 only he will be turned away" to increase your chances.


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 12:53 PM

I have seen some people in Chicago getting the HR44 (IIRC aren't you in the Chicago DMA?) so your chances are pretty good...if you set up an upgrade you might want to have them list in your tech instructions something like "HR44 will be only accepted Genie, if technician arrives with HR34 only he will be turned away" to increase your chances.


Im several miles north of the Chicago area which is considered Chicago DMA I think, but Directv don't know for sure if its available here yet, but I would like to call the local company ahead of time if its possible but don't know their phone number. Or should I just wait for the installation date to see if they carry one?

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 12:58 PM

But since it's a free upgrade other than $20 charge I won't complain, but with built in wifi and smaller design and speed, I'm reluctant to accept the 34.

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 01:41 PM

You would have to just wait for the installation date, or flag a tech down and see if they have them yet. Personally I wouldn't let them install a 34 for me (given the choice) because while they are both excellent receivers, the 44 is stupidly fast.

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 01:52 PM

You would have to just wait for the installation date, or flag a tech down and see if they have them yet. Personally I wouldn't let them install a 34 for me (given the choice) because while they are both excellent receivers, the 44 is stupidly fast.


Might have to see if there's any techs in this area to ask him that question but install date is for tomorrow morning. I don't want to waste the techs time and effort if he don't carry it.

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 04:19 PM

So I just called and told them to put a note on the work order for the HR44, Will they honor it and bring along the 44? I'll know for sure when the installer calls and confirms what he'll have on the truck, if not I'll reschedule.

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 04:21 PM

Im willing to pay extra if he brings the 44 if they have it in stock along with gas money :)

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 05:21 PM

While the 1 Genie per account policy is still in fact in place, there's nothing that tells us to deactivate if we see them on one account. Its not so much a technically issue as it was just a policy that was put in place due to supply shortages and software limitations that as of now have been long fixed. Will they lift it? I'm sure eventually, we have several HR44s, HR34s, C31s and C41s all working on the same SWMs and they get along fine, during initial setup they ask which server you want to connect to.
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Posted 29 May 2013 - 05:31 PM

I hope your right, as 2 hoppers can added why not Genies.

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 05:42 PM

With the two Hoppers per account thing two together really only equal 6 true tuners. So I can see why Dish doesn't necessarily mind two per account. Plus with the fact that most of you on here are recording junkies unlike most of America who can barely make full use of the Genie, that's probably also why DirecTV hasn't gone and changed policy. It used to be all of a sudden everyone started calling in requesting more DVRs because two tuners just wasn't cutting it, one day 5 tuners wont be enough (hopefully) and DirecTV will maybe change ways and allow more than 1.
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Posted 29 May 2013 - 05:44 PM

... we have several HR44s, HR34s, C31s and C41s all working on the same SWMs and they get along fine, during initial setup they ask which server you want to connect to.

By 'they' do you mean the C31/41 clients? And if yes, and you set the first client to connect to the 34 and the second client to the 44, can these two clients 'see' the other Genie or is it limited to just the Genie it is paired with?

 

Also, how do the RVU Smart TVs work with this configuration?



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Posted 29 May 2013 - 06:02 PM

They are all able to see each other and talk to each other as well as other HRxx boxes, RVU tvs are the same.
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Posted 29 May 2013 - 06:17 PM

By 'they' do you mean the C31/41 clients? And if yes, and you set the first client to connect to the 34 and the second client to the 44, can these two clients 'see' the other Genie or is it limited to just the Genie it is paired with?

 

Also, how do the RVU Smart TVs work with this configuration?

 

The clients can see multiple Genies but when trying to play back a recording from the non-paired Genie you have errors (as in not working at all...it will just go to the "Delete/Keep" screen). The Samsung RVU TVs show a "DirecTV RVU" input for each server they can see.

 

So while the foundation is there, it does not work. I'm sure it will, one day, but not for some time.


Edited by JBv, 29 May 2013 - 06:23 PM.

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