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#21 ONLINE   lparsons21

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Posted 24 April 2013 - 05:49 PM

Just parroting corpspeak, not attempting to characterize you personally. Apologies if I offended.

 

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Posted 24 April 2013 - 05:51 PM

If someone is going through hard times with DISH you can always get a VIP211k,buy a EHD,pay a $40. fee and you will have a HDDVR with 1 satellite tuner and 1 OTA tuner.You can't do that with the others.

 

Absolutely.  You could then just pay for programming packages with zero equipment fees after the upfront.  It wouldn't work for me as I watch way too much TV, but I can sure remember the day that was all I had.  Actually even less than that, just a receiver, no dvr, no TIVO.  Turn it on, tune to the channel and watch.


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Posted 24 April 2013 - 05:59 PM

One month free for paying for the year isn't bad. Especially if you're not planning to switch and have the money. That's kinda what I prefer with sports packages like Sunday Ticket, Center Ice, etc... pay X amount for the season rather than 4+ monthly payments.


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Posted 24 April 2013 - 06:01 PM

Ya that's the nice things about satellite(cable) channels is they repeat their programs.So if I ever have to that's the way I would have to go.


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Posted 24 April 2013 - 06:03 PM

It was roughly a month, not exactly a full month.


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Posted 24 April 2013 - 06:11 PM

With the DVR fee of $10/mo, $120/yr plus the additional month of $75 for AT-250, that jumps my rate up $195/yr for the same thing I've had for the last 10 years without considering any programming fees increases.

 

The $75/mo is higher than my water and electric bills combined for most months.

 

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Posted 24 April 2013 - 06:32 PM

Ultimately prices on this kind of stuff keep going up... compare to other available services, pick the best deal, or decide you can do without.  IF enough people decide they can do without, the prices might come down... but I wouldn't lose too much sleep waiting for that.

 

All things considered, while I don't just love the price increases...  they still pale in comparison to other things.  Going out to a movie, a single movie, for the average family can cost upwards of $30 not counting concessions... for that one movie.  Want to see a movie every weekend?  Just one movie a week and you're talking $120+ to take your family to see 4 movies a month...  You could instead put that towards the full package from Dish, DirecTV, U-Verse, or other cable providers and have more entertainment than you could possibly watch.

 

So, yeah... prices are going up... but I still can't get a better entertainment deal for the money... and before anyone says "Netflix" or "Amazon Prime" or "Hulu"...  yeah, those have small fees per month for their content BUT you need a fast broadband connection... so you have to add that cost to the mix too AND many people still live in areas where that kind of broadband isn't available, and others would run into the bandwidth cap and pay a fortune to stream as much content as they can watch via satellite or cable.


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Posted 24 April 2013 - 06:46 PM

This isn't the typical 3-5% annual increase.

 

This is a 20-30% increase by charging fees for things that have never had fees in the past.

 

It's like your mortgage company jacking up your monthly payment by 20% for use of the plumbing pipes and fixtures you've always had.  It's not costing the mortgage company anything more like it would a tax or insurance increase, but rather they just fond something you already have and use and add a fee to it.


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Posted 24 April 2013 - 09:29 PM

What I feel is the worst part of this, is the fact that Dish has totally thrown out a contract that was signed in good faith. I'm sure they have the right weasel words placed in that contract to do this. But still it is a dirty trick and disrespectful to the customer. Dish should have just said that we aren't going to continue the program when your contract is up. Doing it this way will make many people leery of doing business with them. But I guess Dish has given up on growing and has decided to get as much money as they can from current customers.



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Posted 24 April 2013 - 09:30 PM

This isn't the typical 3-5% annual increase.

 

This is a 20-30% increase by charging fees for things that have never had fees in the past.

 

It's like your mortgage company jacking up your monthly payment by 20% for use of the plumbing pipes and fixtures you've always had.  It's not costing the mortgage company anything more like it would a tax or insurance increase, but rather they just fond something you already have and use and add a fee to it.

It's not like that at all... a mortgage either comes with a fixed or a variable interest rate, but the principal is fixed unless you choose to refinance.

 

You have no guarantees on satellite bill pricing...  you have no guarantees that your groceries will not cost more next week or the week thereafter too.

 

Once the price of something exceeds your perceived value for it, you can stop buying that thing.  TV isn't a necessity... not like a home probably is.


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Posted 24 April 2013 - 09:31 PM

What I feel is the worst part of this, is the fact that Dish has totally thrown out a contract that was signed in good faith. I'm sure they have the right weasel words placed in that contract to do this. But still it is a dirty trick and disrespectful to the customer. Dish should have just said that we aren't going to continue the program when your contract is up. Doing it this way will make many people leery of doing business with them. But I guess Dish has given up on growing and has decided to get as much money as they can from current customers.

The contract with Dish doesn't guarantee price.  IF they raise the price on a package, you can probably drop to a lower package.  IF they raise the price on hardware, you may be able to change to less-expensive hardware.


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Posted 25 April 2013 - 04:39 AM

I hit a point a while back where I was reviewing costs I could get rid of.  Showtime ended up not making the cut when it came to my satellite bill.  Other things got reduced, eliminated or otherwise dealt with.

 

It's looking like I'm going to have to review my Dish bill again and either step down form the top tier, lose one of the pay packages (I have HBO & Starz) and probably return either a Hopper or a Joey (I have a 2H/3J setup).  My bill is $145 right now and the idea of paying $120/year plus 5 leasing fees for what USED to be a $100 one-time fee and a box I could BUY is grating on me.



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Posted 25 April 2013 - 07:00 AM

The contract with Dish doesn't guarantee price.  IF they raise the price on a package, you can probably drop to a lower package.  IF they raise the price on hardware, you may be able to change to less-expensive hardware.

Wouldn't paying for your service a year at a time pretty much guarantee price? That's probably the reason why Dish voided the contract, because they couldn't legally get more money under it.  :nono2:



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Posted 25 April 2013 - 10:58 AM

My reading of the letter is that while there is no longer annual billing, you can pay for a full year's service and get a credit for a full month's payment to your account, isn;t that prima facea the same thing or am I way off here?


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Posted 25 April 2013 - 02:16 PM

My reading of the letter is that while there is no longer annual billing, you can pay for a full year's service and get a credit for a full month's payment to your account, isn;t that prima facea the same thing or am I way off here?

Nope, it says that Dish will now bill monthly. The free month is being given because Dish is trying to ease the pain and really does care about it's customers.  !rolling


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Posted 25 April 2013 - 03:01 PM

My reading of the letter is that  ... ... Chuckie needs bucks.


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Posted 25 April 2013 - 03:22 PM

Maybe "D" and "E" really are going to merge.



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Posted 25 April 2013 - 06:14 PM

My reading of the letter is that while there is no longer annual billing, you can pay for a full year's service and get a credit for a full month's payment to your account, isn;t that prima facea the same thing or am I way off here?

 

 

that's if the monthly price remains the same. paying for a year upfront got those subscribers locked into a fixed rate for a year. After May 22, those annual subscribers are subject to the whim of Dishnetwork's price increases impacting their account balances and not necessarily guaranteeing them the year of tv service that they had budgeted and paid for



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Posted 25 April 2013 - 08:18 PM

 
It's like your mortgage company jacking up your monthly payment by 20% for use of the plumbing pipes and fixtures you've always had. 

Shhh don't give the mortgage company ideas, although it wouldn't be surprising if they did that with everything else that keeps going up, But the checks are getting smaller.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 08:35 PM

Hey, somone has to help Charlie Pay BILLIONS for sprint. Let it be us!!






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