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Help!! Stop Disney from going fullscreen


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#1 OFFLINE   John Corn

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Posted 26 April 2002 - 10:56 PM

Disney has just turned a corner with a new policy that all future "B" family titles will be released in P/S 4x3 only. This step is in response to the growing number of complaints they've been receiving about "black bars" by the average consumer who is not familiar with the concept (or benefit) of letterboxing.

Snow Dogs and Muppet Treasure Island are but two of the many soon-to-be-released P/S only DVD titles.

Right now is a *very* critical time for the future of all Disney DVDs as their marketing executives are in the process of finalizing their policy decisions on OAR and DVD. If home-theater enthusiasts wish to continue to be able to purchase WS 16x9 DVDs of "family - B" titles from Disney they need to act quickly and in great numbers.

Consumers who wish to place their vote to advocate for DVDs being presented in their original aspect ratio need to contact Disney by *both* of the following means:

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Call 1-800-72-DISNEY & email disneyinfo@disneyhelp.com and tell them you won't accept Pan&Scan-only DVD releases!
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#2 OFFLINE   MarkA

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Posted 26 April 2002 - 11:31 PM

There, I sent them a nice long message telling them how I feel. This is most disturbing.

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Posted 27 April 2002 - 06:53 AM

poor babies-don't like those nasty "black bars" on the top and bottom of their screen...
personally i hate pan and scan and i haven't seen it out yet, but i would love a version of "Around the Worldin Eighty Days" in letterbox...

I tell you what is creepy-whenever I watch "How the West was Won" on TV and they have those lines on the left and right(giving the impression of a science project backdrop)because cinerama was too big for any kind of real tv viewing-someone walking from one side of the screen to the other in that continuel fish eye look is a hoot!!!
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#4 OFFLINE   MarkA

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Posted 27 April 2002 - 09:48 AM

Well, remember, you vote evry day with your dollars. Writing to these companies is important, but equally important is just not buying these titles

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Posted 27 April 2002 - 02:52 PM

What are the "B" family titles?

I just pre-ordered Monsters, Inc. ; its 1.85:1
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Posted 27 April 2002 - 03:27 PM

The ones that weren't very popular AFAIK. Yes, thank God most of the good movies like Monsters Inc will be available OAR, but still, Muppet Treasure Island may not have been as popular, but it's still pretty darn good

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Posted 27 April 2002 - 03:37 PM

An off topic question. Are any of the old classics (pre 1953) from Disney available in anything other than full screen?
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Posted 28 April 2002 - 01:54 PM

IIRC, most pre 55-ish films were only 4:3.
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Posted 28 April 2002 - 02:36 PM

EricG is correct. Those films are in their original aspect ratio, as they were filmed at 1.37:1 (which is basically identical to 1.33:1)

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Posted 28 April 2002 - 09:26 PM

I've got "Singin' in the Rain" which states on the box that it is presented in its Original Aspect Ratio. Kinda funny as the OAR is full-screen ! (1952)
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Posted 29 April 2002 - 06:33 AM

Colored TV brought the change in movie aspect ratio. It also changed the presentation from a more personal note to a more grandiose one. This does not mean that either aspect is preferable with all movies, but fits better with a certain type of presentation. I do think it's preferable not to change the original intent of the movie.
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#12 OFFLINE   Chris Blount

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Posted 29 April 2002 - 07:10 AM

When more and more people buy widescreen televisions, Disney is going to have a tough time explaining why their DVD's show black bars on the sides. They are cutting their own throats with this one.

On the other hand, knowing the greed of the Disney corporation, they are probably doing this on purpose so everyone will have to re-buy their DVD's in the widescreen format sometime down the road.

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Posted 29 April 2002 - 07:23 AM

Chris,

I think you hit the nail on the head with that one.

Its called Corporate Greed

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Posted 29 April 2002 - 07:36 AM

I'm wondering if Disney will ever respond to my very long email, which among many other things, addressed the widescreen TV issue...

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Posted 29 April 2002 - 09:52 AM

You may just have to accept that. I've purchased the SAME film on VHS, LaserDisc and DVD.
If you need to keep up with technology, you have no choice.

Originally posted by Chris Blount


On the other hand, knowing the greed of the Disney corporation, they are probably doing this on purpose so everyone will have to re-buy their DVD's in the widescreen format sometime down the road.






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