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#821 OFFLINE   James Long

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Posted 03 August 2014 - 08:26 PM

Reliable source or wild ass guess? If the guesser is correct he's a hero. If he's wrong then some excuse will be offered. :)

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Mr White said that he is optimistic. He would be one of those "in the know" and yet he and others "in the know" are not saying. Perhaps others should follow his example?
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#822 OFFLINE   Laxguy

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Posted 03 August 2014 - 08:59 PM

If I knew, I would not say. Since I don't, I won't now either. Almost following JL's suggestion! 


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Posted 03 August 2014 - 09:02 PM

If a link from Satelliteguys is posted, will you leave it up?


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Posted 03 August 2014 - 09:10 PM

Announcing something prematurely compromises their negotiating position, so they have to make sure everything is in place if they're going to say "we'll have SEC Network at launch". Consider what happens if they announced it before the deal was signed...Disney would have them over a barrel, and could say "we're going to charge you an extra dollar a month if you want it now" because Directv couldn't afford to go back on their word after promising people they'd have it at launch.

 

I guess I was referring to that IF DirecTV already has an agreement in place with the SEC Network, then why not announce it and work on the other stuff in the background.  If there's not an actual agreement in place, then no, they definitely shouldn't announce it as an agreement when no agreement exists.

 

If the SEC Network agreement is being tied to the overall Disney/ESPN/ABC negotiations with DirecTV, then I suppose this applies to the above and DirecTV really can't announce anything.  But I thought I had read an article, maybe it was just someone's opinion, and might have been talking about  different provider, but I thought I read that Disney was wanting to keep the SEC Network negotiations separate from any overall Disney package negotiations.  This may have been referring to another provider and DirecTV, with their Disney contract coming to an end, may be in a unique situation.

 

Bottom line, if DirecTV has an agree with the SEC Network and they are allowed to announce it, I'm not sure I understand why they aren't announcing it.  I'm just hearing about a lot of people dropping Direct and switching to Dish and if Direct could just announce that they have it, I would think that would quell some of those would-be switchers.



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Posted 03 August 2014 - 09:47 PM

What in the world is holding them up?

To fortify the illusion that they're fighting tooth and nail to save subscribers money?

 

Most favored nation status pretty much dictates what the deal is going to be.


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Posted 03 August 2014 - 09:50 PM

The President stated DIRECTV® reached an agreement on price of SEC Net, but it's all contingent on the other several dozen items comprising the whole ESPN-ABC package, including streaming licenses and perhaps other items no one has announced. 


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Posted 03 August 2014 - 09:51 PM

I guess I was referring to that IF DirecTV already has an agreement in place with the SEC Network, then why not announce it and work on the other stuff in the background.  If there's not an actual agreement in place, then no, they definitely shouldn't announce it as an agreement when no agreement exists.

SEC Network is but a line item in a criminally large package deal.  When it is done, there should be much more than just the SEC Network to announce.


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Posted 03 August 2014 - 10:33 PM

Watching ESPN tonite, they ran an ad for the SEC network. At the end there was a page to have you contact some site/phone# to request your provider carry the network. On the slide was all the providers already signed up to carry it. Of course DTV was missing, but the ad did run on DTV.......Just observing....



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Posted 04 August 2014 - 02:25 AM

The only thing about the Watch abc app not everybody will be able to use it


That doesn't make any sense at all. Unlesss you mean people who don't subscribe to a package that contains that channel, which is how it is with every app anyway.


That's partially true, the ABC Live stream portion of the WATCH ABC has only been available in ABC O&O markets.

However, the on demand content has been available as long as ABC is included in your package (with the supported providers available). This includes non O&O markets for this aspect of the service.

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* Live stream is currently available in the following areas: Chicago, Fresno, Houston, Los Angeles, New York City, Philadelphia, Raleigh-Durham and San Francisco. You must be located within each available station's local viewing area and must verify your participating TV provider account for access to the WATCH ABC live stream in your area.


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Posted 04 August 2014 - 05:51 AM

Up to date FAQ page:  http://getsecnetwork.com/#Faq

 

Remember, providers love leaking information that a deal is "close" in order to keep customers on board.
 
The timing of Mr. White's statement is not an accident. Mr. White knows August 1st is an important date in the minds of many customers. But DirecTV isn't just negotiating terms for the SEC Network. They're negotiating a massive carriage agreement for all of the Disney (ESPN's parent company) television properties. While the path for SEC Network may seem to be clear, there may still be boulders in the roadway elsewhere.
 
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Posted 04 August 2014 - 06:18 AM

Charter agreed to carry it last week.

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Posted 04 August 2014 - 06:23 AM

Charter agreed to carry it last week.

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Although reported as close, it's not officially 'done' from what I understand.


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Posted 04 August 2014 - 09:54 AM

I think the game Bama has on their right now would have been the PPV game or the one before AU would be so no big loss I like listening to Eli Gold on the Radio
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Posted 04 August 2014 - 11:12 AM

Up to date FAQ page:  http://getsecnetwork.com/#Faq
 
Remember, providers love leaking information that a deal is "close" in order to keep customers on board.
 
The timing of Mr. White's statement is not an accident.


Of course it wasn't. It was at the second quarter report. He didn't go out of his way to announce anything.
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Posted 04 August 2014 - 12:53 PM

If a link from Satelliteguys is posted, will you leave it up?

 

Since you asked... I'm going to try and explain something that keeps getting twisted somehow.

 

If you find information that is valid to a topic being discussed here (or you are starting that topic yourself), you are welcome to post a link. The caveat, and it is ALWAYS a caveat to any link you post... not a special "Satelliteguys rule" as some might interpret...  you must post more than just a blind link.

 

No "go here" and a link... or "Satellite Guys is discussing this" and a link.  That is helpful to no one.

 

For any link you post in any topic, you must give it context... give the forum members a reason why they might click on the link.

 

Relevant to this topic... say "They are talking over on Satellite Guys about the SEC network and someone there posted a date when the channel is supposed to launch." and then post your link.  Easy peasy. More descriptive text is better.  Always remember copyright rules... like when we post a link to an article from another Web site and post the first paragraph only (not the entire post from the other site) and then a link.

 

Respect the copyright of other sites... but post something that gives our members a valid reason to visit the link you are sharing.

 

I can guarantee you Satellite Guys has this same kind of policy. They do not want people randomly dropping in there and posting "Go to DBSTalk" and then a link. It helps nobody on either forum to make those kinds of posts.

 

I can't think of a link to Satellite Guys that has ever been removed from this site as long as it follows these guidelines, that apply to ALL posted external links.

 

Now... having said all that...  when you do post a link to any article/thread on another site here... I assume you do so to add to the discussion... and as such, people who follow that link presumably come back here and continue the discussion... which means we would now be talking not only about the topic but about what someone on their site said about that topic.  If someone posts a rumor here or posts it there and someone links to it... it is now part of the discussion and some will like the rumor, others will doubt it. It's all fair game for reasonable discussion.


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Posted 04 August 2014 - 01:06 PM

Since you asked... I'm going to try and explain something that keeps getting twisted somehow.

 

If you find information that is valid to a topic being discussed here (or you are starting that topic yourself), you are welcome to post a link. The caveat, and it is ALWAYS a caveat to any link you post... not a special "Satelliteguys rule" as some might interpret...  you must post more than just a blind link.

 

No "go here" and a link... or "Satellite Guys is discussing this" and a link.  That is helpful to no one.

 

For any link you post in any topic, you must give it context... give the forum members a reason why they might click on the link.

 

Relevant to this topic... say "They are talking over on Satellite Guys about the SEC network and someone there posted a date when the channel is supposed to launch." and then post your link.  Easy peasy. More descriptive text is better.  Always remember copyright rules... like when we post a link to an article from another Web site and post the first paragraph only (not the entire post from the other site) and then a link.

 

Respect the copyright of other sites... but post something that gives our members a valid reason to visit the link you are sharing.

 

I can guarantee you Satellite Guys has this same kind of policy. They do not want people randomly dropping in there and posting "Go to DBSTalk" and then a link. It helps nobody on either forum to make those kinds of posts.

 

I can't think of a link to Satellite Guys that has ever been removed from this site as long as it follows these guidelines, that apply to ALL posted external links.

 

Now... having said all that...  when you do post a link to any article/thread on another site here... I assume you do so to add to the discussion... and as such, people who follow that link presumably come back here and continue the discussion... which means we would now be talking not only about the topic but about what someone on their site said about that topic.  If someone posts a rumor here or posts it there and someone links to it... it is now part of the discussion and some will like the rumor, others will doubt it. It's all fair game for reasonable discussion.

 

posting links is all good and well. i am a retired reporter. and i still know a few people in the business. if i ever post a tidbit from a source, i will never name that source. i didn't do it when i worked as a reporter (yes i would be willing to go jail) and i won't do it now. you folks can ask to your hearts content but i will never reveal.



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Posted 04 August 2014 - 01:11 PM

posting links is all good and well. i am a retired reporter. and i still know a few people in the business. if i ever post a tidbit from a source, i will never name that source. i didn't do it when i worked as a reporter (yes i would be willing to go jail) and i won't do it now. you folks can ask to your hearts content but i will never reveal.

What you're talking about is different... you're talking about protecting a confidential source. While frustrating to others, that can be respected. You should expect to be doubted, though... I mean, the different between you quoting a confidential source and me making up something is minimal until one of us is proven incorrect... so protecting sources is fine, but don't be surprised if people doubt you.

 

Meanwhile, you quoted my post... but my post applies to external links. There is no confidentiality protection when you post a link.  I mean, if you post a link to Satellite Guys the cat is out of the bag... You can't say "I won't tell you where I read this, but follow this link" and still have that particular source be confidential, right? :)


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Posted 04 August 2014 - 03:03 PM

Just heard that DirecTv signed a deal to carry the SEC Network. Announcement should be coming very soon!


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Posted 04 August 2014 - 03:05 PM

Just curious... why does there have to be this long-standing battle between this site and Satellite Guys?  I look at both sites, enjoy both sites and appreciate the different perspectives.  To quote the infamous Rodney King.... "Can't we all just get along?"



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Posted 04 August 2014 - 03:10 PM

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