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'Touch' to go, '24' to possibly come back


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#1 OFFLINE   RunnerFL

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 08:27 AM

So I guess I won't bother watching this season of 'Touch' which I have piled up on my DVR...

 

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 08:29 AM

I've enjoyed Touch, but it does just kinda lay there as far as shows go .. It's not particularly surprising that it's been chopped. I'll finish it out and be OK with that (heck, it might even already be done and I don't know ... I've just been on the ride).
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Posted 10 May 2013 - 08:48 AM

I'm currently 9 episodes behind on Touch. I do enjoy it but it hasn't been a priority. If there isn't a proper conclusion I may not bother with the rest.



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Posted 10 May 2013 - 09:13 AM

More 24? Yes please.



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Posted 10 May 2013 - 09:29 AM

More 24? Yes please.

 

Yes!!!! Funny I was recently feeling nostalgic about 24, after seeing the actor who played Tony Almeida on Castle the other night.


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Posted 10 May 2013 - 10:08 AM

fox is interested in bringing 24 back as a limited series (12 episodes). they are already talking contract with kiefer. i read that thursday night. go to deadline.com for details.



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Posted 10 May 2013 - 10:32 AM

fox is interested in bringing 24 back as a limited series (12 episodes). they are already talking contract with kiefer. i read that thursday night. go to deadline.com for details.

 

Or just click on the link I provided at the top.


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Posted 10 May 2013 - 11:26 AM

I use to like 24 but then I found that 24 hours a day was just too long.

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 11:42 AM

24 Rocks.

 

Mad Men Rocks.

 

What's the crossover appeal?

 

Only Netflix and its Big Data operation knows for sure.


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Posted 10 May 2013 - 11:43 AM

Let's go 24!


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Posted 10 May 2013 - 11:43 AM

In 12 episodes it's even better to not drag on the day. Would be perfect.


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Posted 10 May 2013 - 11:44 AM

Bring back Alcatraz as well. I want to know how the story ended ... :)


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Posted 10 May 2013 - 02:20 PM

If there's only 12 episodes, shouldn't it be called '12'?


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Posted 10 May 2013 - 02:43 PM

If there's only 12 episodes, shouldn't it be called '12'?

 

Hopefully they'll be 2 hour episodes!  lol


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Posted 10 May 2013 - 07:58 PM

I would be happy to see 24 again, but it would have to have grown up a little. We have all changed since 911, and so should 24. If they take a fresh approach to terrorism, it could be compelling, yet if we were to watch eps from 2005 or so, they would probably seem pretty stale and cliched. I think the fact that 24 never did well in syndication has a lot to do with how quickly attitudes changed which gave it a short shelf life (the "Cosby Show" syndrome). So it has to change with how the world has changed and how our perceptions of terrorism have changed. In particular? Well, off the top, how about domestic drones, and a more moralistic view of the dilemma of torture? I think the possibilities are pretty ripe.

 

But these are the same guys who, with Homeland, proved that their talent was not just a fluke. 24 was great because they were great, as is Homeland, and this means that they could certainly pull this off again, especially if they get Sean Callery to do the music again; I felt the production music was an integral part to why 24 was as good as it was, and I felt the same about Homeland. Oddly, his contributions on Elementary don't seem to be that important, but then that show stands as a great show on its own for other reasons (and thriller/suspense is not really a part of that show, which is Callery's strength).

 

So really, what would make this work is to throw out everything except Kiefer, Sean Callery, and the producers of both Homeland and 24, and maybe bring back an old nemesis or two. They would need to divest themselves of all other artifacts of 24 so that they could start with a fresh slate with no encumberances. That is not easy; think of the baggage of trying to resurrect a show like Star Trek, or Seinfeld, or any other show with a great legacy and probable expectations. They need to free themselves from all of that sort of baggage and just go for it regardless of the legacy or expectations, and if they do,  I think it could be really great, and I hope we get to see it happen.

 

Maybe if they brought back Kim and her pet cougar....Nope, bad idea.


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Posted 10 May 2013 - 08:08 PM

I have been catching up on some 24 reruns of late.


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Posted 11 May 2013 - 11:46 PM

Loco, do you agree that it now seems a little dated? I saw a couple eps on Audience and that is how it struck me


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Posted 12 May 2013 - 12:13 AM

In my imagination... I always imagined that Alcatraz took place in the Fringe universe... and was just one long Fringe event that went unsolved :)


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Posted 13 May 2013 - 09:12 AM

fox confirms monday morning that 24: live another day will return may 2014 as a 12 episode limited series. kiefer sutherland has been signed.


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Posted 13 May 2013 - 01:43 PM

It is about time.  Jack Bauer's been out of work for four years and his retirement is coming to an end.  His autobiography didn't go over well with 20th Century Fox. :coffee

 

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 04:21 PM

Perhaps a 12 hour 24 will allow Jack to move around a little more without accounting for every minute. I remember when the series ended Keifer was looking forward to a movie where he could get on a plane and fly somewhere without filling that hour with drama.
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Posted 13 May 2013 - 08:01 PM

James, that is exactly what I am talking about. They need to free themselves from the shackles of what is expected from 24. If ever there was a high-concept formula for a show, this was it. And talk about narrow confines. I can't think of a show that had more things forcing it onto the narrowest of paths. Throw out the formula, and start from scratch.

 

We know who Jack is, but we don't need to see him save the world every minute and it doesn't have to be edge of seat from straight up to straight up. How about some dynamic range in the performances, some nuances of tone in the drama? Let Jack be human and make mistakes. Let there be a cost for that. Since you have lulled us into a sense of who Jack is, why not pull a head fake and show us that he has been a different person all along? The best shocker would be that Jack is a master-mind terrorist working NOT for the US, but for China (he was brain-washed there for a year or two by them). Rock our Jack Bauer world.

 

Back to nuance, 24 in the 2000's was like a heavy metal song that beat you over the head for every single note. No dynamics. No changes of tone. It was edge-of-seat thrilling for a solid 60 minutes. While they did that very artfully and entertainingly, when you play every note at full volume, guess what happens? The audience gets used to every note being at full volume, and eventually becomes bored with that predictability. Really loud heavy metal music is predictable and boring, because you always know that what comes next is another 8 bars of really loud music, probably the same 2 chords a fifth apart and in probably the same 4/4 pattern. While not Heavy Metal, how many times does The Who smashing their guitars to bits actually work? Exactly once. Once it happens twice, it is no longer spontaneous, but prepared theatre. And boring.

 

Surprise us. Shock us. Unpredictability is entertaining, which is probably why I am drawn to bat-$#!+ crazy women. But Howard Gordon and crew are smart enough to know what from 24 will work today, and what needs to be freshened up, so I am eagerly on board.

 

Incidentally, I was working at a FOX station when 24 first aired. The GM was a bit of a doofus at the time; he actually called up the Director of Engineering during the broadcast because the clock on 24 did not match the actual time. Yes, he actually took it that literally.


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Posted 14 May 2013 - 11:53 AM

I love 24 and the real-time aspect was a big point. I don't see how it could be the same without real-time or 24 hours elapsing.



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Posted 14 May 2013 - 03:13 PM

From The Hollywood Reporter  It's Official: '24' Returning to Fox as Event Series:

 

...The continuation of the series -- which spanned 192 episodes and a TV movie from 2001-10 -- will be produced by its former showrunner, Howard Gordon (Homeland). Like the original series, the reboot, dubbed 24: Live Another Day, hails from 20th Television and Imagine TV's Brian Grazer with Gordon's banner Teakwood Lane on board to co-produce. Fox will bow the limited project -- which will tell a 24-hour story over 12 episodes that jump hours -- in May 2014.

 

"24 compressed over 12 weeks, Jack is back," Fox entertainment chairman Kevin Reilly told reporters early Monday during a conference call ahead of the network's upfront presentation. The executive noted 24 will likely mark Fox's first limited run series with the potential for additional closed-ended stories in the franchise....


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Posted 14 May 2013 - 04:07 PM

I love 24 and the real-time aspect was a big point. I don't see how it could be the same without real-time or 24 hours elapsing.


It won't be the same ... and it may be better. I believe the TV movie that preceded season 7 made season 7 better. It provided a back story and time for situations to develop that were handled in season 7. Trying to show every minute (except commercials) of Jack's life is restricting. And unrealistic. Everything seemed to happen at the speed of light on 24 ... perhaps they will have an easier time developing a story.
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