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#51 OFFLINE   dpeters11

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 07:21 AM

Epic would be if a single tornado took out multiple towns like hurricanes do.  Sandy, now that was epic.

 

So based on that definition, no tornado incident could be epic, since a super outbreak would be excluded, even though they are spawned by the same weather system and can include hundreds of tornados in one day.



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Posted 22 May 2013 - 07:30 AM

This thread is epic ..
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Posted 22 May 2013 - 07:44 AM

I'm actually expecting it to be shut down, I should have stopped after the first post...



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Posted 22 May 2013 - 07:58 AM

Epic would be if a single tornado took out multiple towns

Like the 1925 Tri-State


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Posted 22 May 2013 - 09:14 AM

I suppose it's good that you have such a "grand scale" perspective. That way, calamities all around the world (Bangladesh, Japan, Thialand, Katrina, Syrian refugees, Mt. St. Helen, and on and on) won't rise to your attention or concern. What would it take for you, with your lofty "grand scale" view, to show a little human empathy?

 

It's good that you can rise above it all. How convenient for you.

 

As I've said before "I feel bad for them", clearly you missed that and only chose what you could use as ammunition to mount an attack.


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Posted 22 May 2013 - 10:10 AM

You know, this PC crap Is getting way out of control, next they will be saying Grandma didn't die she's just on a very long vacation that she wont be coming back from.

 

 

You know, this PC crap Is getting way out of control, next they will be saying Grandma didn't die she's just on a very long vacation that she wont be coming back from.


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Posted 22 May 2013 - 10:13 AM

You need some compassion! It's just TV!


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Posted 22 May 2013 - 10:59 AM

The goal of CBS is not to be PC, to be sensitive or insensitive, or anything else. It is to make money.

 

So in a very short time, with incomplete information, CBS made a business decision; to not air a comedy about a tornado. They didn't think of in terms of PC. They thought in terms of money, weighing the costs of pulling episode (ad revenue and momentum) against bad press of not pulling the episode.

 

If it had been a drama, they might have left the episode, perhaps. But a comedy? Yeah, I can see that.

 

Sure, some people will miss their means of escaping from the daily world--yet wait... They will have a new episode to look forward to later. :)

 

My prayers go out to the people who are recovering from the tornadoes, the families, not just in Moore.

 

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 12:49 PM

What I don't get is why CBS didn't just change guide data and air a news special about it as well...a national 30 min update would have been fine at that time....

I think if you feel its that important to pull a show, you should back it up by giving it proper coverage.

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 01:09 PM

I agree that a news update would have been a better choice.

 

About "epic" in the context of tornadoes. The only definition offered by Dictionary.com for "epic" that doesn't involve poetry and literature is "of unusually great size or extent." The May 18–21, 2013 tornado outbreak qualifies as "epic" IMHO. It was a multiple day event affecting a large swath of the country. We don't measure each gust of wind in a hurricane to find the "epic" gust. And we don't measure each individual tornado touchdown in a tornado outbreak as the "epic" touchdown. We look at the whole.


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Posted 22 May 2013 - 02:46 PM

 The only definition offered by Dictionary.com for "epic" that doesn't involve poetry and literature is "of unusually great size or extent." The May 18–21, 2013 tornado outbreak qualifies as "epic" IMHO.

Nope.  Not all that unusual.  There were really only a few storms and the one that got all the news wasn't as bad as it was made out to be.  Bad for those directly affected, but not in comparison to others.

 

This one only logged around 50 tornadoes, whereas the April 2011 event logged over 350.


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Posted 22 May 2013 - 05:35 PM

Epic would be if a single tornado took out multiple towns like hurricanes do.  Sandy, now that was epic.


The world had more than a 20-30 minute warning for Sandy. Hurricanes are much more survivable. The survivability of a tornado comes from their smaller size and less of a chance of being hit. 
 

I suppose it's only an "epic event" when it's your home that is completely destroyed.
Get a little empathy.


Spot on!

 

As I've said before "I feel bad for them", clearly you missed that and only chose what you could use as ammunition to mount an attack.


Making several posts in a row and "dominating" a thread does tend to bring focus to you as a poster. Yes, you feel bad for the tornado victims. But it seems that you're also wound up over the postponement of a 30 minute comedy show. A lot of angst over a 30 minute comedy. What some people would consider a stupid TV show.
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Posted 22 May 2013 - 07:05 PM

You know, "epic" is kind of in the eye of the beholder. This storm was pretty "epic" from my perspective:

http://en.wikipedia....eesboro_tornado

"Only" two people were killed, despite the hundreds of houses utterly destroyed and the nearly 1,000 homes and businesses damaged. That was a pretty damn lucky thing, given the size and intensity of the storm, and fact that the tornado ground track was over 20 miles long. That same storm system spouted a rotating wall cloud, heavy winds and rain/hail that was was blowing sideways at my house a few miles to the south of the main tornadic cell. If the storm had been a few hundred yards south it would've hit a 15 story Embassy Suites hotel and quite possibly destroyed it. A few hundred yards further still and it would passed right through a large outdoor mall/shopping center packed with a thousand people or more doing some late Friday afternoon shopping and dining.

So in light of what just happened in Oklahoma, CBS deciding to just chill for a week or two doesn't bother me in the slightest. People died - many more were injured, lost homes, pets, livestock, or personal property, and many times that number know people who were affected.

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 07:12 PM

People get shot daily, car accidents happen daily, people die daily, it rains somewhere every day and so on...  Using your example we should never air shows that show people being shot, car accidents, people dying, scenes with rain and so on...  Yeah, sorry I don't need people deciding what I do and don't like based on "current events".  Let me decide if I want to watch a show involving a tornado on a day there was a tornado, and that happens QUITE often this time of year.

 

And to answer your question...  Yes, it would be ok to have shown a show about terrorists bringing down a building on 9/11.  You don't have to watch it if you don't want to or let your DVR catch it and you watch it another day. 

 

I don't need someone to "protect" me from TV shows that show things that happen in real life.

 

We are in complete agreement.

 

What might be a bit ironic is that nobody who was hurt ot nearly hurt or even nearby this tornado probably had the time, the proclivity, or even the opportunity, to be watching dumb sitcoms that night anyway, so they would not have been upset by the random coincidentality of a show that had a tornado as a plot point, because they would not have been watching it!

 

If you lived in that town or had relatives or friends in the path of that disaster, you should be out helping them as much as you can, and not gulping down cheese balls and sleeves of Pringles in front of the boob tube. And if you disagree with that, you can hardly be outraged that a show you watch has innocent coincidences with real life.

 

As for the rest of us, cut us a Freaking break. Stuff happens every day, and some of it is not good. But shows are just going to coincidentally air that feature issues that happen to some people every day, and there is just not much anyone can do about that. No one is out there moaning about that. It is what it is. That's how the world turns. So to yank any ep for anything starts to look hypocritical, because it is.

 

The Hannibal ep yank reasoning was ridiculous, and this one is even worse, except that this one is not a chunk taken out of the middle of a serialized story arc.

 

What is really gauling is that the ep yanks are NOT done out of sensitivity, NO they are NOT; they are done out of the FEAR of someone whining about it to others and making them look bad, or giving them 15 minutes of negative publicity on twitter. That means that ep yanks are not done to be altruistic, they are done to be self-serving, and nothiing more.


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Posted 22 May 2013 - 07:38 PM

We are in complete agreement.

 

What might be a bit ironic is that nobody who was hurt ot nearly hurt or even nearby this tornado probably had the time, the proclivity, or even the opportunity, to be watching dumb sitcoms that night anyway, so they would not have been upset by the random coincidentality of a show that had a tornado as a plot point, because they would not have been watching it!

 

If you lived in that town or had relatives or friends in the path of that disaster, you should be out helping them as much as you can, and not gulping down cheese balls and sleeves of Pringles in front of the boob tube. And if you disagree with that, you can hardly be outraged that a show you watch has innocent coincidences with real life.

 

As for the rest of us, cut us a Freaking break. Stuff happens every day, and some of it is not good. But shows are just going to coincidentally air that feature issues that happen to some people every day, and there is just not much anyone can do about that. No one is out there moaning about that. It is what it is. That's how the world turns. So to yank any ep for anything starts to look hypocritical, because it is.

 

The Hannibal ep yank reasoning was ridiculous, and this one is even worse, except that this one is not a chunk taken out of the middle of a serialized story arc.

 

What is really gauling is that the ep yanks are NOT done out of sensitivity, NO they are NOT; they are done out of the FEAR of someone whining about it to others and making them look bad, or giving them 15 minutes of negative publicity on twitter. That means that ep yanks are not done to be altruistic, they are done to be self-serving, and nothiing more.

Yanking an episode costs the networks money. That means someone had to authorize the (opportunity) cost. That doesn't seem very self-serving. 

 

Comedy is all about timing. This was bad timing, given it was the very day it happened. 

 

What if I had relatives or friends who lived in the area, but I live somewhere else. After I've verified they are ok, what do you expect me to do to assist them from 2,000 miles away on that night? 

 

So you demand a break. because "[tornadoes] happen everyday". You are so incredibly hurt by an episode yank. You are forced to endure 30 minutes of intense pain of watching a re-run a week early. You might want to get your money back. Sue for triple damages. As, obviously this pain and agony is so much more than that suffered by the people in the storm... 

 

I try to put myself in other people's shoes. To understand the pain, to empathize if possible. I'm kinda having problems seeing your pain here.

 

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 07:42 PM

Not to be flippant... but doesn't Wizard of Oz air during tornado season quite a bit?  Would that movie be pulled in a similar situation?

 

Several people have got this right, though... networks don't pull programs to be "sensitive"... they do it to avoid complaints AND to try and get some free P/R and publicity.  IF it was about doing things to take their audience into account, then they probably wouldn't make an episode of any comedy that ever had a serious topic in the first place.


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Posted 22 May 2013 - 07:54 PM

 

 

 

You need some compassion! It's just TV!

 

Paul, you do realize you post your comment in the same post that you're quoting other people, right? You don't have to quote and then do a separate post with your comment. I know it helps your post count, but it's cumbersome in the context of the thread.


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Posted 22 May 2013 - 08:57 PM

So in the future, there's no reason for a network to yank prime-time programming for any reason!!

 

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Posted 23 May 2013 - 05:58 AM

So in short, RunnerFL, it ain't about YOU, it's about all of THEM.

Deal with it.

 

Not once have I said it was about me.  Maybe you should invest in some reading glasses.

 

And as far as "THEM", well they made the choice to live in OK, I didn't.


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Posted 23 May 2013 - 06:00 AM

We are in complete agreement.

 

What might be a bit ironic is that nobody who was hurt ot nearly hurt or even nearby this tornado probably had the time, the proclivity, or even the opportunity, to be watching dumb sitcoms that night anyway, so they would not have been upset by the random coincidentality of a show that had a tornado as a plot point, because they would not have been watching it!

 

If you lived in that town or had relatives or friends in the path of that disaster, you should be out helping them as much as you can, and not gulping down cheese balls and sleeves of Pringles in front of the boob tube. And if you disagree with that, you can hardly be outraged that a show you watch has innocent coincidences with real life.

 

As for the rest of us, cut us a Freaking break. Stuff happens every day, and some of it is not good. But shows are just going to coincidentally air that feature issues that happen to some people every day, and there is just not much anyone can do about that. No one is out there moaning about that. It is what it is. That's how the world turns. So to yank any ep for anything starts to look hypocritical, because it is.

 

The Hannibal ep yank reasoning was ridiculous, and this one is even worse, except that this one is not a chunk taken out of the middle of a serialized story arc.

 

What is really gauling is that the ep yanks are NOT done out of sensitivity, NO they are NOT; they are done out of the FEAR of someone whining about it to others and making them look bad, or giving them 15 minutes of negative publicity on twitter. That means that ep yanks are not done to be altruistic, they are done to be self-serving, and nothiing more.

 

I agree 110%


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Posted 23 May 2013 - 01:17 PM

So in the future, there's no reason for a network to yank prime-time programming for any reason!!

 

I don't use smilies but there's way too much crap in this thread!

 

An important point to keep in mind.

 

While CBS pulled a comedy show about a fictional tornado...  News stations continued to show footage from the real-life devastation.

 

Now... if I was a victim OR a friend or family member of such devastation... I can tell you 100% I would be more depressed and bothered seeing more and more of the actual real-life devastation than I would have the fictional comedy.

 

So...  while one arm of the networks pulls shows under the guise of "doing it for the people" another arm of the network shows more and more disturbing footage also under the guise of "doing it for the people"...


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Posted 23 May 2013 - 01:21 PM

I think several missed the sarcasm in my post above.



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Posted 23 May 2013 - 01:36 PM

I think several missed the sarcasm in my post above.

I'm sure I missed the sarcasm... and usually I'm so good at picking it up too.  I always enjoy sarcasm.

 

(oh, and that wasn't sarcastic...  I do enjoy sarcasm :) )


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Posted 23 May 2013 - 01:38 PM

Question, did the BBC Networks and other British Networks yank all Cooking shows yesterday after Meat cleavers and knives were used in that tragic Terrorist attack yesterday?


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Posted 23 May 2013 - 02:50 PM

I'm not sure I see them as the same. It's starting to get close to an argument like when someone drove their car into a market, killing a bunch of people that anything with a car in it would be pulled from the networks.

 

Similarly, if Discovery's North America first night ran after the tornado, I would not think it would be something that should be pulled.


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