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#41 OFFLINE   dpeters11

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Posted 21 May 2013 - 07:26 PM

But are EF5's enough different (stronger) than an F5 that they can't be compared in damage/intensity?



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#42 OFFLINE   SayWhat?

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Posted 21 May 2013 - 08:01 PM

No difference at all,.

 

Every storm on that page is the same relative strength and intensity regardless of moniker.


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Posted 22 May 2013 - 05:59 AM

Since when is an EF5 a yearly occurrence?

 

There are multiple tornadoes every year in "Tornado Alley".  The people that live there should expect them just like we expect Hurricanes down here and prepare for them.

 

There may not be an EF 5 every year, but they do happen quite often.  More often than a Cat 5 hurricane, that's for sure.


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Posted 22 May 2013 - 06:02 AM

There's only been 9, 4 were from the same storm. How is 9 EF5 common?? And how is the most powerful classification not epic?

 

9?  You might want to review the list again...  I count 60 and that includes 7 on 4/3/74 alone!

 

http://en.wikipedia....d_EF5_tornadoes


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Posted 22 May 2013 - 06:03 AM

And if you go back to F5, before they went to EF, there were none from 2000-2006. What is "epic", if this isn't? Greensburg? Fewer deaths but 95% of the town destroyed. Joplin, the deadliest tornado since 1947 and costliest in US history?

 

This thread certainly has taken a turn I did not anticipate. It really was meant as an FYI for people that record the show...

 

Epic would be if a single tornado took out multiple towns like hurricanes do.  Sandy, now that was epic.


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Posted 22 May 2013 - 06:05 AM

You're counting F5s... Look at Section 2, Official EF5 Tornadoes. http://en.wikipedia....l_EF5_tornadoes

 

Ok, so you want to single those out, fine...  There are 9 in the past 6 years (since they added the E).  That averages out to more than one a year, again hardly epic.  4 in one day, 6 in one year...  Quite common I'd say.


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Posted 22 May 2013 - 06:07 AM

But are EF5's enough different (stronger) than an F5 that they can't be compared in damage/intensity?

 

They are the same, they just changed the name of the scale in 2007.  Someone just wants to be picky.

 

See, they are the same:

 

http://wiki.answers...._an_EF5_tornado

 

 

Oh, and the scale goes to 12 so a 5 is hardly "epic".


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Posted 22 May 2013 - 06:09 AM

This is not an "epic event" by any means.

 

I suppose it's only an "epic event" when it's your home that is completely destroyed.

Get a little empathy.

 

Geez!


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Posted 22 May 2013 - 06:13 AM

I suppose it's only an "epic event" when it's your home that is completely destroyed.

Get a little empathy.

 

Geez!

 

Is it epic to them?  Absolutely...  However in the grand scale of things this isn't an "epic storm" at all. 


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Posted 22 May 2013 - 06:33 AM

Is it epic to them?  Absolutely...  However in the grand scale of things this isn't an "epic storm" at all. 

 

I suppose it's good that you have such a "grand scale" perspective. That way, calamities all around the world (Bangladesh, Japan, Thialand, Katrina, Syrian refugees, Mt. St. Helen, and on and on) won't rise to your attention or concern. What would it take for you, with your lofty "grand scale" view, to show a little human empathy?

 

It's good that you can rise above it all. How convenient for you.


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Posted 22 May 2013 - 07:21 AM

Epic would be if a single tornado took out multiple towns like hurricanes do.  Sandy, now that was epic.

 

So based on that definition, no tornado incident could be epic, since a super outbreak would be excluded, even though they are spawned by the same weather system and can include hundreds of tornados in one day.



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Posted 22 May 2013 - 07:30 AM

This thread is epic ..
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Posted 22 May 2013 - 07:44 AM

I'm actually expecting it to be shut down, I should have stopped after the first post...



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Posted 22 May 2013 - 07:58 AM

Epic would be if a single tornado took out multiple towns

Like the 1925 Tri-State


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Posted 22 May 2013 - 09:14 AM

I suppose it's good that you have such a "grand scale" perspective. That way, calamities all around the world (Bangladesh, Japan, Thialand, Katrina, Syrian refugees, Mt. St. Helen, and on and on) won't rise to your attention or concern. What would it take for you, with your lofty "grand scale" view, to show a little human empathy?

 

It's good that you can rise above it all. How convenient for you.

 

As I've said before "I feel bad for them", clearly you missed that and only chose what you could use as ammunition to mount an attack.


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Posted 22 May 2013 - 10:10 AM

You know, this PC crap Is getting way out of control, next they will be saying Grandma didn't die she's just on a very long vacation that she wont be coming back from.

 

 

You know, this PC crap Is getting way out of control, next they will be saying Grandma didn't die she's just on a very long vacation that she wont be coming back from.


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Posted 22 May 2013 - 10:13 AM

You need some compassion! It's just TV!


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Posted 22 May 2013 - 10:59 AM

The goal of CBS is not to be PC, to be sensitive or insensitive, or anything else. It is to make money.

 

So in a very short time, with incomplete information, CBS made a business decision; to not air a comedy about a tornado. They didn't think of in terms of PC. They thought in terms of money, weighing the costs of pulling episode (ad revenue and momentum) against bad press of not pulling the episode.

 

If it had been a drama, they might have left the episode, perhaps. But a comedy? Yeah, I can see that.

 

Sure, some people will miss their means of escaping from the daily world--yet wait... They will have a new episode to look forward to later. :)

 

My prayers go out to the people who are recovering from the tornadoes, the families, not just in Moore.

 

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 12:49 PM

What I don't get is why CBS didn't just change guide data and air a news special about it as well...a national 30 min update would have been fine at that time....

I think if you feel its that important to pull a show, you should back it up by giving it proper coverage.

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 01:09 PM

I agree that a news update would have been a better choice.

 

About "epic" in the context of tornadoes. The only definition offered by Dictionary.com for "epic" that doesn't involve poetry and literature is "of unusually great size or extent." The May 18–21, 2013 tornado outbreak qualifies as "epic" IMHO. It was a multiple day event affecting a large swath of the country. We don't measure each gust of wind in a hurricane to find the "epic" gust. And we don't measure each individual tornado touchdown in a tornado outbreak as the "epic" touchdown. We look at the whole.


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