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#41 OFFLINE   Steve

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Posted 17 June 2013 - 12:45 PM

So, how are the 5 devices connected to this?  If I have three laptops registered to the Go, do I need to connect the Go directly to the laptop everytime I want to download a new program.  Or can I be in a hotel and download the new show to my laptop, with the Go still at home?  I really could use a device like this, and never knew it existed.  Currently using a Vulkano to basicly do the same thing.  Will this work with HR21, HR 22 connected via DECA's or do I need a 34 or 44?

 

Edit:  Also, are the downloaded program in HD or are they converted into SD?

 

You can't copy a transcoded show to a client while away from home, at least with the current hardware and software.

 

The GenieGo device holds the transcoded shows in its memory, so you only have to convert a show once for multiple devices, but each playback device you want to copy it to must be on the home network.

 

Video quality is equal to a standard DVD, IMHO. About 720x480.


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Posted 17 June 2013 - 07:36 PM

You can't copy a transcoded show to a client while away from home, at least with the current hardware and software.

 

The GenieGo device holds the transcoded shows in its memory, so you only have to convert a show once for multiple devices, but each playback device you want to copy it to must be on the home network.

 

Video quality is equal to a standard DVD, IMHO. About 720x480.

 

But you can bring the Go with you and download shows to it while away from home, correct?  I thought I read that somewhere. 

DVD quality is better than nothing, but I sure wish they would let us copy in full HD.  Not to mention it would be nice if the Go had an HDMI port on it so you could hook it straight up to an HDTV.  


Edited by VABlitz, 17 June 2013 - 07:38 PM.


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Posted 17 June 2013 - 07:53 PM

But you can bring the Go with you and download shows to it while away from home, correct? I thought I read that somewhere.
DVD quality is better than nothing, but I sure wish they would let us copy in full HD. Not to mention it would be nice if the Go had an HDMI port on it so you could hook it straight up to an HDTV.


No you can't. The GenieGo needs to be able to "see" your DVRs in order to be able to get the content from them.
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Posted 18 June 2013 - 07:46 AM

No you can't. The GenieGo needs to be able to "see" your DVRs in order to be able to get the content from them.

 

Yeah I don't know why they don't even allow it to work with a VPN connection.  Kind of disappointing.


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Posted 18 June 2013 - 11:59 AM

Yeah I don't know why they don't even allow it to work with a VPN connection.  Kind of disappointing.

 

So, you've tried it with a VPN.  Have you tried leaving the Go at home and VPN with a laptop to the Go?  Well, it still is nice when I have a long trip lined up.  For transferring while away from home I will still use my Vulkano setup. 


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Posted 18 June 2013 - 12:11 PM

it was rumored that the GenieGo was going to be able to stream DVR recordings outside the home. hopefully DirecTV works this out sooner then later.
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Posted 18 June 2013 - 07:35 PM

So, how are the 5 devices connected to this?  If I have three laptops registered to the Go, do I need to connect the Go directly to the laptop everytime I want to download a new program.  Or can I be in a hotel and download the new show to my laptop, with the Go still at home?  I really could use a device like this, and never knew it existed.  Currently using a Vulkano to basicly do the same thing.  Will this work with HR21, HR 22 connected via DECA's or do I need a 34 or 44?

 

Edit:  Also, are the downloaded program in HD or are they converted into SD?

They are converted to sd, and you can't stream outside of the home, you have to download it to your device first. It will work with an HR20 or later model receiver.


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Posted 21 June 2013 - 04:12 AM

Well, after a week of using GenieGO on Android, I find it to be acceptable, but full of annoyances (no surprise, it's from DirecTV).
 

  • The app does not understand landscape mode; it always displays in portrait mode, both on an Asus TF700T and on a Samsung Galaxy S3. Thankfully, the video playback does understand landscape mode.
  • On a phone, which has a constant Internet connection, starting the app away from home takes *forever*, because it spends a bunch of time trying to contact the GenieGO box.
  • Marking series for auto-download doesn't seem to accomplish much, although it does appear to get the shows 'prepared' on the GenieGO; if the Android app is not running in the foreground on the device, the shows don't download, but when you click 'download' they download fairly quickly.
  • There's no way to see what content is currently living on the GenieGO itself (for download to 2nd/3rd devices), and it's not clear what causes them to get deleted.


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Posted 21 June 2013 - 05:05 AM

 

Well, after a week of using GenieGO on Android, I find it to be acceptable, but full of annoyances (no surprise, it's from DirecTV).
 

  • The app does not understand landscape mode; it always displays in portrait mode, both on an Asus TF700T and on a Samsung Galaxy S3. Thankfully, the video playback does understand landscape mode.
  • On a phone, which has a constant Internet connection, starting the app away from home takes *forever*, because it spends a bunch of time trying to contact the GenieGO box.
  • Marking series for auto-download doesn't seem to accomplish much, although it does appear to get the shows 'prepared' on the GenieGO; if the Android app is not running in the foreground on the device, the shows don't download, but when you click 'download' they download fairly quickly.
  • There's no way to see what content is currently living on the GenieGO itself (for download to 2nd/3rd devices), and it's not clear what causes them to get deleted.

 

I don't have an Android device, but on the IOS, PC and MAC clients, there's a 'Ready for Download' filter that shows what programs have been prepared.

 

Programs are deleted when deleted on the DVR or on a FIFO basis when space is needed.  There is no direct GUI into GenieGo.



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Posted 21 June 2013 - 06:56 AM


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[*]Marking series for auto-download doesn't seem to accomplish much, although it does appear to get the shows 'prepared' on the GenieGO; if the Android app is not running in the foreground on the device, the shows don't download, but when you click 'download' they download fairly quickly.

Not sure how Androids, but on iOS devices background downloading is not permitted by Apple.
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Posted 21 June 2013 - 07:34 AM

Not sure how Androids, but on iOS devices background downloading is not permitted by Apple.

The good news is iOS 7 will allow app developers to add background capability. It's due out this fall.


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Posted 21 June 2013 - 08:07 AM

The good news is iOS 7 will allow app developers to add background capability. It's due out this fall.


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Multitasking will be a little be weird on iOS7. It has something to do with the system learning how and how often you use an app. I right now use Background Manager on my JB'en iPhone 5. It basically lets me keep alive any app I want regardless where I am on the OS. I set up the Nomad app to download a show I then can use Chrome or pretty much do anything and the show will download in the background, pretty neat!
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Posted 21 June 2013 - 08:50 AM

Yeah, I suspect the Android app is a 'port' of the iOS app, and doesn't yet take advantage of any Android features. It also refers to the device it's installed on as an 'Android' :-)



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Posted 21 June 2013 - 09:32 AM

Yeah, I suspect the Android app is a 'port' of the iOS app [...]

 

Could be, because the iOS app GUI is portrait-only as well, landscape for the player.


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Posted 05 July 2013 - 03:18 PM

Surprised I am not seeing discussion on this yet:

 

[From the GenieGo Manual]

 

Out-of-Home Access

You can stream your recorded shows to your mobile device outside your home by setting your

wireless router to port forwarding. This allows your GenieGO app to connect to your router from

outside your home Wi-Fi network. Most popular router models can be automatically setup for port

forwarding using your PC or Mac computer, but some models require you to turn it on manually.

• For automatic setup:

- Open the GenieGO App on your computer. Go to Settings section located in the top right

of your app, select “GenieGO Out-of-Home Access” and follow the on-screen instructions.

- Once complete, you’ll see “Congratulations! Your router is set up for GenieGO Out-of-

Home Access.”

- You’ll need to confirm “Out-of-Home Access” on each device you want to stream shows on

outside the home.

• For manual set up:

- Proceed to directv.com/geniego/routersupport for instructions to manually setup your router

 

anyone have this working ?

 

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 04:15 PM

Surprised I am not seeing discussion on this yet:

 

[...] anyone have this working ?

 

Unfortunately, the manual's ahead of the software. OOH streaming is not available for Macs or Android devices at this time. Only PCs and iOS devices. Hopefully soon!


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Posted 05 July 2013 - 05:55 PM

Unfortunately, the manual's ahead of the software. OOH streaming is not available for Macs or Android devices at this time. Only PCs and iOS devices. Hopefully soon!

 

Thanks Steve.  I am trying to connect OOH from a PC.  Have the ports forwarded and I'm comfortable with router configs.  My question is, how does the client on my OOH pc know how to get back to my home router?  I seem to be missing how / where that happens.

 

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 09:07 PM

Thanks Steve. I am trying to connect OOH from a PC. Have the ports forwarded and I'm comfortable with router configs. My question is, how does the client on my OOH pc know how to get back to my home router? I seem to be missing how / where that happens.

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Gotcha. You had me there for a second, because the of fhread we're in. :P

There's a GenieGo authentication server the clients check in with to get the home IP. The home GenieGo device updates it.
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Posted 06 July 2013 - 02:42 PM

Surprised I am not seeing discussion on this yet:

 

[From the GenieGo Manual]

 

Out-of-Home Access

You can stream your recorded shows to your mobile device outside your home by setting your

wireless router to port forwarding. This allows your GenieGO app to connect to your router from

outside your home Wi-Fi network. Most popular router models can be automatically setup for port

forwarding using your PC or Mac computer, but some models require you to turn it on manually.

• For automatic setup:

- Open the GenieGO App on your computer. Go to Settings section located in the top right

of your app, select “GenieGO Out-of-Home Access” and follow the on-screen instructions.

- Once complete, you’ll see “Congratulations! Your router is set up for GenieGO Out-of-

Home Access.”

- You’ll need to confirm “Out-of-Home Access” on each device you want to stream shows on

outside the home.

• For manual set up:

- Proceed to directv.com/geniego/routersupport for instructions to manually setup your router

 

anyone have this working ?

 

Bill

 

I thought I read this was possible somewhere.  Everyone else is saying you can not download shows away from home (perhaps they mean through an android device).  The manual clearly states it is possible with a PC (which is what I would use).  I guess you need the genie go with you to stream shows from your receivers.  Port forwarding is not that hard to do.  I was thinking I would have to setup a VPN to get this working, but it looks like it is a feature of the genie go. 



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Posted 06 July 2013 - 02:50 PM

I thought I read this was possible somewhere.  Everyone else is saying you can not download shows away from home [...]

 

While away from home, you can schedule a new transcode, so it's available for copying once you're back on your home network. You can currently only stream shows to Windows laptops and iOS devices while OOH, however; you can't remotely copy a transcoded file for local playback.


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