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#1 OFFLINE   vandon

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 11:04 AM

I currently have a hr21-100 with an ams21. On the directv website, it says I qualify for a free upgrade.

If I take the upgrade to a new HD dvr, what will I most likely end up with?

Will I just end up with another old dvr like the hr21 or hr22?

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#2 OFFLINE   Laxguy

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 11:12 AM

If you say you have a sudden need for 5 tuners, you''d probably get a Genie. 


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Posted 10 June 2013 - 11:18 AM

Not looking to upgrade to a Genie, just another hd dvr.  My current hr21 is starting to show its age and I'd like to get something faster with more storage.

If dtv is just going to send me another old reciever, I'll probably go ahead and spend the money at another retailer and get a hr24.  However, if chances are good at getting a hr24 I'll take the free route.



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Posted 10 June 2013 - 11:24 AM

Not looking to upgrade to a Genie, just another hd dvr.  My current hr21 is starting to show its age and I'd like to get something faster with more storage.

If dtv is just going to send me another old reciever, I'll probably go ahead and spend the money at another retailer and get a hr24.  However, if chances are good at getting a hr24 I'll take the free route.

The Genie has 1TB of storage and is faster than the HR24.


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Posted 10 June 2013 - 12:19 PM

I'm not interested in the muti-room viewing and don't really want to pay for it if it's required just because I have a genie. If the whole-home dvr fee isn't required, then the Genie might be the way to go for me.

 

I currently have an hr21 with 2 tuners/2 cables and ethernet connected and an old tivo dsr6000r with 1 tuner/cable connected. Both are connected through a 6x8 passive multiswitch.

I plan on moving my hr21 to another room to replace the old sd tivo and tossing the tivo in the recycling bin.

 

It looks like the genie requires swm, so what would be required to upgrade to the genie and move the hr21 and not use DECA networking? Would extra equipment be provided by Dtv or do I have to buy the equipment?



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Posted 10 June 2013 - 12:30 PM

Per DirecTV's dorky setup...  You could receive an HR21/22/23 or 24.  They claim to have no control.  



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Posted 10 June 2013 - 12:42 PM

Per DirecTV's dorky setup...  You could receive an HR21/22/23 or 24.  They claim to have no control.

Exactly

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 01:13 PM

I'd totally spring for MRV- a whole $35 per annum. I did so when I lived alone, and certainly kept it with a family now. 


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Posted 10 June 2013 - 02:14 PM

Simply having a Genie doesn't force you to pay for Whole Home. If you have Genie and another WH-compatible receiver, they add it automatically, but I don't think it's required. When I activated my HR44, they added WH, but when I deactivated my HR21, they took it off, since my other receiver, a THR22, doesn't do WH.


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Posted 10 June 2013 - 02:20 PM

Simply having a Genie doesn't force you to pay for Whole Home.

Advanced Receiver fee for the Genie is $25

I'm almost positive that is part of the lease agreement.

 

 

Yes here it is.

 

"You agree to continuously maintain the minimum level of programming with us as follows: new customers: 24 consecutive months; existing customers: 24 consecutive months for DVR, HD and/or HD DVR Receivers and any Clients, or 12 consecutive months for standard Receivers. If you selected an Advanced Whole-Home DVR (aka “Genie HD DVR”) or an HD DVR, you agree to pay a monthly Advanced Receiver fee ($25/mo.). If you selected an HD Receiver, you agree to pay a monthly Advanced Receiver-HD fee ($10/mo.). If you selected a DVR Receiver, you agree to pay a monthly Advanced Receiver-DVR fee ($10/mo.). If you selected a TiVo® HD DVR from DIRECTV (except for model HR10-250), you agree to pay a monthly Advanced Receiver-TiVo fee ($25/mo.) and a monthly TiVo fee ($5/mo.). THIS AGREEMENT TO MAINTAIN PROGRAMMING IS SEPARATE AND DIFFERENT FROM ANY OTHER YOU MAY HAVE MADE WITH DIRECTV AND IS FULLY ENFORCEABLE UNDER THESE TERMS."


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Posted 10 June 2013 - 02:39 PM

If I already have this on my bill:

  Advanced Receiver-DVR Lifetime    0.00

 

 

Would that cover the genie or does it need a separate fee?

 

 

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--Looks like it does. I just had a chat with a directv rep and the only increase would be $3 a month for the whole home service if I got it.


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Posted 10 June 2013 - 08:24 PM

The Genie has 1TB of storage and is faster than the HR24.

I know a few people that would disagree with that statement.



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Posted 10 June 2013 - 08:38 PM

Get enough people and someone will disagree with anything, even a statement that Bluray is better than VHS.

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 10:46 PM

Eight track rules! All analog all the time! Analog is always better than digital! Get your HD coffee table here.....


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Posted 11 June 2013 - 04:34 AM

I know a few people that would disagree with that statement.

Per Webster......Few: Amounting to or consisting of a "small" number. Being more than one but "indefinitely" small in number......While I agree there are "few" who are experiencing issues with their Genies the fact remains it is faster than the HR24. 


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Posted 11 June 2013 - 07:11 AM

Are we talking HR34 or HR44 here?  I've only seen one HR34 but it was a little less responsive than my HR24s most of the time and a lot less responsive some of the time.  I don't doubt the HR44 is faster from other's posts but have never seen one.


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Posted 11 June 2013 - 07:24 AM

I know a few people that would disagree with that statement.

I'm one of them .
HR 34 is better then every other DVR but the HR24. My buddy just got a Genie and 2 HR24's. They are much more responsive then the Genie.

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Posted 11 June 2013 - 07:26 AM

It's faster, Mike, but you still would find fault with it.


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Posted 11 June 2013 - 07:26 AM

I have a HR34-700. Channel changing speed from HD to HD is 3 1/2 seconds. SD to SD is 4 seconds. HD to SD is 4 1/2 seconds. That's faster than the HR24-500 it replaced.


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Posted 11 June 2013 - 07:27 AM

It's faster, Mike, but you still would find fault with it.

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Posted 11 June 2013 - 07:48 AM

My point is that the HR34 is already having issues with response times and other speed issues, just like all other Directv dvrs.



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Posted 11 June 2013 - 07:50 AM

It's faster, Mike, but you still would find fault with it.

Right, DirecTV's troubles don't exist and I just make this stuff up to give you something to do.  

 

The HR34 I saw was not significantly slower than my HR24s but it was slower especially when it was doing multiple recordings.  That's just the way it is - I'm not going to 'ignore' it just to make some people here happy.


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Posted 11 June 2013 - 07:52 AM

My point is that the HR34 is already having issues with response times and other speed issues, just like all other Directv dvrs.

Careful there!  You may ruffle some feathers with crazy comments like that! :rotfl:   No matter how true they are!



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Posted 11 June 2013 - 08:04 AM

I have a HR34-700. Channel changing speed from HD to HD is 3 1/2 seconds. SD to SD is 4 seconds. HD to SD is 4 1/2 seconds. That's faster than the HR24-500 it replaced.

You also told us your HR24 was dying.
Which is how you got the Genie!

I did the speed test, and you are right about 3.5 seconds for HR34. But I also played with the HR24s and its about 2 seconds!
Sorry but the HR 24 is a much more responsive receiver across the board then the HR34.
HR24 and H25 are about a dead lock as far as speed.

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Posted 11 June 2013 - 08:08 AM

All of DirecTV's DVRs are pretty quick when they are new (IOW, empty).  As the hard drives fill up they slow down.  It has been speculated that this is because the software keeps the database of recordings in memory (including recordings that have been "deleted").  So the more you record, the slower it gets and the the only way to fix it is to clear and delete everthing.

 

That said, after about 9 months of use, our HR34 is about the same in performance as our 12 month old HR24-100.


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