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#81 OFFLINE   unixguru

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Posted 19 June 2013 - 10:23 AM

Your claim was that was illegal. :)

 

Must I connect the dots?  It is tying.  Tying is illegal.  Therefore...



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Posted 19 June 2013 - 11:05 AM

I would be happy to pay $26 a month for Showtime because then I wouldn't need DirecTV and it would save me $130 or so a month.  I have fabulous OTA, Netflix, and Hulu already.  Just need Showtime.

 

We watch Dexter, Borgias, and Homeland on SHO.  Borgias is over.

 

If one is willing to wait a year... last season (and all prior seasons) of Dexter can be owned in HD via Vudu for $36 or about the same on Blu-Ray from Amazon.  Homeland is similar.

 

Unless you are watching more than 3 series it's going to be cheaper to buy them later and if it's the only thing keeping you on sat/cable it's going to be FAR cheaper.

 

Granted one has to swallow not having the show for a year while one waits to get in sync with other distribution mediums.

 

This kind of rationalization is getting more and more appealing to my family.  We skip 99.9% of movies in theaters.  We skip 95% of PPV waiting for HBO/SHO/MAX/STARZ that we already pay for.  We've even started using RedBox more - get it at same time as PPV for $1.50 vs $5.99 with a small added inconvenience.  For series, if we can get over the bump of shifting down one more gear things start getting a lot cheaper.

 

I just pulled up Skyfall on Vudu... $0.99 to rent.  Yeh, sure, a la carte is going to cost us a lot more.



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Posted 19 June 2013 - 04:56 PM

Must I connect the dots?  It is tying.  Tying is illegal.  Therefore...

 
I have a hard time believing that DirecTV has been violating the law since day one of providing service to customers and has not been prevented from doing so. If requiring a customer to buy one channel to get another is illegal tying why was it not stopped YEARS ago when DirecTV started business? Or before that when cable sold channels in tiers?


If one is willing to wait a year... last season (and all prior seasons) of Dexter can be owned in HD via Vudu for $36 or about the same on Blu-Ray from Amazon.  Homeland is similar.


I suppose one could wait a year ... and stay away from all of the Internet and watercooler discussion of the shows. One could be that one guy at the office that one cannot talk about current series around because they are too cheap to pay the first run price.

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 11:20 AM

If you're paying $130/mo, it seems you're getting alot more than you want.  Have you tried modifying that to cut back on stuff you don't care for?

I could lower the programming level but it doesn't decrease my bill much.  With the 'fees', Whole Home, Advanced DVR, HD and 3 DVRs it adds up quick.



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Posted 20 June 2013 - 11:24 AM

We watch Dexter, Borgias, and Homeland on SHO.  Borgias is over.

 

If one is willing to wait a year... last season (and all prior seasons) of Dexter can be owned in HD via Vudu for $36 or about the same on Blu-Ray from Amazon.  Homeland is similar.

 

Unless you are watching more than 3 series it's going to be cheaper to buy them later and if it's the only thing keeping you on sat/cable it's going to be FAR cheaper.

 

Granted one has to swallow not having the show for a year while one waits to get in sync with other distribution mediums.

 

This kind of rationalization is getting more and more appealing to my family.  We skip 99.9% of movies in theaters.  We skip 95% of PPV waiting for HBO/SHO/MAX/STARZ that we already pay for.  We've even started using RedBox more - get it at same time as PPV for $1.50 vs $5.99 with a small added inconvenience.  For series, if we can get over the bump of shifting down one more gear things start getting a lot cheaper.

 

I just pulled up Skyfall on Vudu... $0.99 to rent.  Yeh, sure, a la carte is going to cost us a lot more.

I could wait the year but would rather not.  I'd love to pay Showtime directly for streaming and dump the rest.

 

I really don't think it will be that long before one way or another I will be able to get Showtime programming without Cable or Satellite - we'll see!



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Posted 20 June 2013 - 02:21 PM

I could lower the programming level but it doesn't decrease my bill much.  With the 'fees', Whole Home, Advanced DVR, HD and 3 DVRs it adds up quick.

So you have almost everything they offer in services, yet you would prefer to just cut the cord and go to streaming?  If the additional services are not that big of a deal, why have so much?  This isn't meant to offend but if you want the luxury of such a nice system, your charges are going to reflect just that.


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Posted 21 June 2013 - 07:06 AM

So you have almost everything they offer in services, yet you would prefer to just cut the cord and go to streaming?  If the additional services are not that big of a deal, why have so much?  This isn't meant to offend but if you want the luxury of such a nice system, your charges are going to reflect just that.

Lets see...  Which 'services' should I give up to lower the bill?

 

XTRA $70.99

Showtime $12.99

Advanced Reciver-HD $10

Advanced Receiver-DVR $10

Whole-Home $3.00

Additional TV $6.00

Additional TV $6.00

Sales Tax $2.13

Utah Video Service Tax 4.00

 

Total $125.11

 

How about the $10 HD fee.  HD isn't really needed right?  Or how about the DVR fee?  Don't really need that either!  How about sending back two receivers to save $12 a month?  I only need to watch 1 TV anyway right?  Maybe Whole-Home? That $3 will make quite a dent in the bill.  I could change packages so the $70.99 would become $64.99 or $54.99 and I may do that considering I'd only lose 1, maybe 2 channels I watch by going to the $54.99 package.

 

It comes down to I pay $125.11 a month to be able to watch Showtime and 3 or 4 other channels.  I'd gladly give up the 3 or 4 other channels if I could pay Showtime directly and stream it.  I wouldn't need whole-home, or 3 receivers if I could stream Showtime.

 

TV is a luxury no doubt - it isn't like it would by life-altering to give up DirecTV.  As the prices continue to rise and the quality of programming continues to slide I suspect I wouldn't be alone in saying 'It just isn't worth it'.



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Posted 21 June 2013 - 08:24 AM

I would say receivers if you dont need them.  After that would be Whole Home if you dont need it and then lowering the package.


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Posted 21 June 2013 - 08:29 AM

You're in a distinct minority being willing to have but one channel.


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Posted 21 June 2013 - 11:26 AM

I would say receivers if you dont need them.  After that would be Whole Home if you dont need it and then lowering the package.

That's the thing - I do need them but don't with OTA, Netflix, Hulu and Showtime if they'd sell it to me...



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Posted 21 June 2013 - 11:29 AM

You're in a distinct minority being willing to have but one channel.

Most of what we watch is broadcast networks, Showtime, AMC and once in a while another channel here or there.  Not enough to justify if the price goes up much higher....

 

I like the convenience of DirecTV, the HD quality (SD stinks but we don't watch any) and for the most part the receivers (with the exception everyone is well aware of)...  But the prices is getting to the point of 'not really worth it'. 



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Posted 21 June 2013 - 03:21 PM

So right out of the gate, why not change to entertainment?


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