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Dish & Direct tv--Any signal or Picture difference?


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#1 OFFLINE   spummerr

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 09:56 PM

Wondering if either service has a better signal & picture? HD & Regular



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Posted 12 June 2013 - 10:11 PM

yes, it's ... but sorry the question has been answered ad nauseum


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Posted 12 June 2013 - 10:13 PM

DIRECTV's HD transmission is at a higher resolution than Dish's, so a better picture there. SD picture on DIRECTV is worse than Dish's. 


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Posted 13 June 2013 - 10:16 AM

DIRECTV's HD transmission is at a higher resolution than Dish's, so a better picture there. SD picture on DIRECTV is worse than Dish's.

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 10:34 AM

this meaningless dispute coming each time newbie posted the question ... ughhh !

 

yes, there is 1440x1088 HiDef stream for all dish HD channels !

it's their current HD STANDARD what will last forever (if you eat it in beginning when keep silence during a campaign when the fact discovered)

 

get SkyWalker box and TSReader and analyze stream ... ch 5710 would be your test bed


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Posted 13 June 2013 - 11:01 AM

Even if you have them setting side-by-side with identical displays, it will be difficult to tell the difference, because the human eye is more able to interpret detail in the vertical than in the horizontal.

Unless you have a ridiculously large display (>65") it doesn't matter.

That's why the argument goes on ad infinitum, because people who think it should matter (video snobs) can't make it matter to everyone else.
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Posted 13 June 2013 - 12:01 PM

It was "HD-Lite" campaign ..



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Posted 13 June 2013 - 12:08 PM

While D*'s HD is technically better, to the eye most don't see enough difference to matter.  And frankly that is all that matters.

 

D*'s SD OTOH is absolutely horrid in comparison to almost any other SD regardless of other source.  Unwatcheable.

 

E*'s SD is very good, on most channels it is nearly DVD quality.

 

As you can see in my sig, I have a 73" DLP set, before that I had a 54" Panasonic plasma and with both sets, the difference in HD is so minimal as to not exist.


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Posted 13 June 2013 - 12:19 PM

E*'s SD is very good, on most channels it is nearly DVD quality.

 

Sorry to rain on your parade, but it's pretty much not that close as you wish, just two numbers ( man! how many times I should post it ?!)

rare streams are 540x480 ~1.5 Mbps is it nearly DVD ?! regularly : 354x480 1 Mbps - is it nearly DVD ?!!


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Posted 13 June 2013 - 12:22 PM

When I had Dish for 3 years 2007-2010 the PQ was so small vs Directv that deciding a provider based on that, would be dumb!
Even when we had cable 2011-2012 the HD PQ was good. Its not like looking at VHS vs DVD.

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 12:25 PM

D*'s SD OTOH is absolutely horrid in comparison to almost any other SD regardless of other source.  Unwatcheable.
 
E*'s SD is very good, on most channels it is nearly DVD quality.

Sounds like you have crappy equipment, Also no way does either company have DVD like SD PQ. Cable has the best IMO and I wouldn't even call that DVD quality.
Directvs SD is far from unwatchable, sure its not the best, but gimmie a break!

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 12:31 PM

Sorry to rain on your parade, but it's pretty much not that close as you wish, just two numbers ( man! how many times I should post it ?!)
rare streams are 540x480 ~1.5 Mbps is it nearly DVD ?! regularly : 354x480 1 Mbps - is it nearly DVD ?!!

If Dish had DVD quality SD, I would have Dish , and never bother to subscribe to HD. 480p doesn't look that bad!

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 01:57 PM

480p doesn't look that bad!


on a CRT TV that is!


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Posted 13 June 2013 - 02:00 PM

Sorry to rain on your parade, but it's pretty much not that close as you wish, just two numbers ( man! how many times I should post it ?!)

rare streams are 540x480 ~1.5 Mbps is it nearly DVD ?! regularly : 354x480 1 Mbps - is it nearly DVD ?!!

 

Thanks for the techhie viewpoint, I look with my now great eyes after cataract surgery, at my 73" DLP 3D set, and my 24" PS3 3D display and they both tell my eyes that maybe it isn't 'dvd quality' but it is close enough to the viewer that the differences are slight.  That said, it is not the same on all channels.


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Posted 13 June 2013 - 02:02 PM

Sounds like you have crappy equipment, Also no way does either company have DVD like SD PQ. Cable has the best IMO and I wouldn't even call that DVD quality.
Directvs SD is far from unwatchable, sure its not the best, but gimmie a break!

 

Lessee....  I have a 6 month old Mitsi 73" 3D DLP display and a 24" PS3 3D display and now I have great eyes after cataract surgery, all of them tell me that I'm right.

 

As for cable SD, well I can tell you from experience with Mediacom around here, their SD is horrid but better than D*s.


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Posted 13 June 2013 - 02:04 PM

Lessee....  I have a 6 month old Mitsi 73" 3D DLP display and a 24" PS3 3D display and now I have great eyes after cataract surgery, all of them tell me that I'm right.

 

As for cable SD, well I can tell you from experience with Mediacom around here, their SD is horrid but better than D*s.

Well there you have it!


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Posted 13 June 2013 - 02:15 PM

Well there you have it!

 

Have what?  

 

Unless you've had cataract surgery, you cannot imagine the huge improvement in vision.  My eyes test now at 20/30 which has never been the case for me my entire life.  And the brightness and vivid colors are just amazing!  It's like getting a new set of eyes!  :)


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Posted 13 June 2013 - 02:23 PM

Have what?  

 

Unless you've had cataract surgery, you cannot imagine the huge improvement in vision.  My eyes test now at 20/30 which has never been the case for me my entire life.  And the brightness and vivid colors are just amazing!  It's like getting a new set of eyes!   :)

I got a few years before I'll need that done. At 35 years old I have 20/20 vision. I've had better vision when I was younger as well I had a 20/10 vision at 22 years old.  I'm/was one of the lucky ones!  But my dreams of flying were cut short By a blood pressure issue, So I went into construction.  And ist slowly getting much harder on the eyes.


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Posted 13 June 2013 - 05:10 PM

I have a 100" screen with a Sony 1272 crt projector. That's why I'm asking.

 

Direct tv looks great now,  In HD 1080I) & SD,

 just wondering if I switched to Dish if there would be any noticable changes

 

Dish has some great pricing right now compared to Direct tv


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Posted 13 June 2013 - 05:16 PM

HD is good (with some bizzares of the picture during fast changing scene and big full-screen explosions)  if you're not that picky as Mr.Silva :)



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Posted 13 June 2013 - 05:17 PM

yes, it's ... but sorry the question has been answered ad nauseum

 

Well, don't reply then if it bothers you so much. I for one don't know if there is a difference and I might switch to Dish so I need to ask.



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Posted 13 June 2013 - 05:43 PM

Don't base your choice after PQ, as much as some here want you to believe otherwise they are both equal over all.

Look at the prices , the equipment needs, and channel line ups. PQ is a thing of the past in most cases.

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 05:56 PM

Don't base your choice after PQ, as much as some here want you to believe otherwise they are both equal over all.

Look at the prices , the equipment needs, and channel line ups. PQ is a thing of the past in most cases.

Say it like it is. When it comes to SD picture quality DISH is more equal than DirecTV. With HD picture quality DirecTV is more equal than DISH.


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Posted 13 June 2013 - 08:38 PM

Thanks for the techhie viewpoint, I look with my now great eyes after cataract surgery, at my 73" DLP 3D set, and my 24" PS3 3D display and they both tell my eyes that maybe it isn't 'dvd quality' but it is close enough to the viewer that the differences are slight.  That said, it is not the same on all channels.

I just had cataract surgery on one eye (the other will be done monday) and the difference in PQ between the two eyes is now amazing. I had no idea how bad things were until after getting my eye repaired! Best video upgrade ever!

 

I have a 104" projection system in my home theater and Dish HD looks really good on it. Back when I first built the theater and my eyes were much better I switched from cable to dish and found the HD picture quality to be either comparible or Dish was a bit better. As other are saying, reguardless of specs, Dish HD looks damn good.



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Posted 13 June 2013 - 09:03 PM

It is amazing how a simple, fast surgery can make something like vision so much better, isn't it?  I got the last eye done last week and the 1st one done 2 weeks before that.  I got both on a Wednesday and was back on the golf course on Friday.

 

My surgeon took about 7 minutes to do each eye which really surprised me.  I had been told it was quick, but 7 minutes?  :)


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