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Dish & Direct tv--Any signal or Picture difference?


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#21 OFFLINE   spummerr

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 05:17 PM

yes, it's ... but sorry the question has been answered ad nauseum

 

Well, don't reply then if it bothers you so much. I for one don't know if there is a difference and I might switch to Dish so I need to ask.



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Posted 13 June 2013 - 05:43 PM

Don't base your choice after PQ, as much as some here want you to believe otherwise they are both equal over all.

Look at the prices , the equipment needs, and channel line ups. PQ is a thing of the past in most cases.

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 05:56 PM

Don't base your choice after PQ, as much as some here want you to believe otherwise they are both equal over all.

Look at the prices , the equipment needs, and channel line ups. PQ is a thing of the past in most cases.

Say it like it is. When it comes to SD picture quality DISH is more equal than DirecTV. With HD picture quality DirecTV is more equal than DISH.


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Posted 13 June 2013 - 08:38 PM

Thanks for the techhie viewpoint, I look with my now great eyes after cataract surgery, at my 73" DLP 3D set, and my 24" PS3 3D display and they both tell my eyes that maybe it isn't 'dvd quality' but it is close enough to the viewer that the differences are slight.  That said, it is not the same on all channels.

I just had cataract surgery on one eye (the other will be done monday) and the difference in PQ between the two eyes is now amazing. I had no idea how bad things were until after getting my eye repaired! Best video upgrade ever!

 

I have a 104" projection system in my home theater and Dish HD looks really good on it. Back when I first built the theater and my eyes were much better I switched from cable to dish and found the HD picture quality to be either comparible or Dish was a bit better. As other are saying, reguardless of specs, Dish HD looks damn good.



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Posted 13 June 2013 - 09:03 PM

It is amazing how a simple, fast surgery can make something like vision so much better, isn't it?  I got the last eye done last week and the 1st one done 2 weeks before that.  I got both on a Wednesday and was back on the golf course on Friday.

 

My surgeon took about 7 minutes to do each eye which really surprised me.  I had been told it was quick, but 7 minutes?  :)


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Posted 13 June 2013 - 09:07 PM

that's good news ... but guys :backtotop:


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Posted 13 June 2013 - 10:30 PM

There is definitely a difference in HD PQ. Many claim to not be able to tell the difference, and I believe them. And some of them claim 20-20 vision, and I believe them.

 

The thing is, observations of PQ are not a function solely of visual acuity, nor more than perception of HQ sound is solely a function of ability to get high scores on auditory tests. 


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Posted 14 June 2013 - 04:53 AM

When I switched to Dish from DirecTV in April of 2012, I could perceive a difference in picture quality, but it was subtle.  I am extremely fussy about my viewing quality, and can easily detect things that most people never notice (artifacting, color squashing, lack of detail.)  I would call Dish's HD quality acceptable, but DirecTV's had a certain "wow!" factor on the sharpest programs (like Frozen Planet.)



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Posted 14 June 2013 - 07:43 AM

Thank you. I think we've found an honest man.......


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Posted 16 June 2013 - 03:59 AM

Thank you. I think we've found an honest man.......

 

I wouldn't say that others are dishonest.  My spouse can't see the difference at all.  Same equipment, some programming.



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Posted 16 June 2013 - 05:40 AM

I wouldn't say that others are dishonest.  My spouse can't see the difference at all.  Same equipment, some programming.

Some people can't see the difference between 720p, 1080i, and 1080p yet there is a difference.


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Posted 16 June 2013 - 09:16 AM

I've had DirecTV for many years, and recently added Dish to my system.

 

Gotta say, I LOVE having BOTH services.

 

Yes, it's pricey and I'm paying for quite a bit of duplicate programming, but as an independent installer that has clients on both services, becoming a little more 'fluent' on the Dish side is good business.

 

There is some programming differences, RFD-HD for starters, and the KTLA, WWOR,WPIX, KWGN pack that I really like.  There are some feature differences, the higher frame rate during the FF and REW scan on Dish is great, I appreciate the slightly better HD on Direct, but can't complain about Dish.  It would be nice if the Dish box would stay on indefinitely, I mirror 2 Direct boxes and both tuners on my 722, and it's annoying the Dish box shuts off every night.

 

For those that can afford it, I'd recommend both, the 'kewl' factor is considerable, fun seeing both dishes on the roof next to each other!  The 722 adds some HDDVR capacity, and since I don't have a Genie yet (maybe next year) the bump is welcome.

 

I've already had a major 'save' with a customer on Dish, instead of a house call, I was able to walk her through her problem by grabbing my Dish remote and punching up the menu while talking to her over the phone.



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Posted 16 June 2013 - 10:14 AM

Thanks for the techhie viewpoint, I look with my now great eyes after cataract surgery, at my 73" DLP 3D set, and my 24" PS3 3D display and they both tell my eyes that maybe it isn't 'dvd quality' but it is close enough to the viewer that the differences are slight.  That said, it is not the same on all channels.

For some reason The History Channel has sharp picture..


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Posted 17 June 2013 - 10:03 PM

Well, don't reply then if it bothers you so much. I for one don't know if there is a difference and I might switch to Dish so I need to ask.

 

 

If you do decide you will want the Hopper with Sling,it has the ability to record 4 local programs at night(NBC,ABC,CBS and FOX) with one satellite tuner(Primetime Anytime) plus two other satellite tuner programs,or if you have the USB OTA tuner another local channel.The newer receiver's have the latest video chips so naturally you will see a better picture.Also the 922,Hopper,and Hopper with Sling all have the channel logos in the electronic programming guide and the Menu Tile format. :)



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Posted 18 June 2013 - 09:59 PM

I have had both over the years. I watch TV on a 1080p projector on a 145" screen and honestly I can't see the difference between the two in terms of HD, SD does look better on Dish but I avoid SD at all costs.  

 

In terms of signal strength it has a lot to do with your installer.  Since I tend to switch every 2 years I can see a trend and say that I had much better signal strength with Dish than with Direct.

 

In fact right now it's raining hard and I lost signal on Direct TV.  With Dish we had record setting snow here and I never lost signal.  



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Posted 20 June 2013 - 06:25 AM

I have a 100" screen with a Sony 1272 crt projector. That's why I'm asking.

 

Direct tv looks great now,  In HD 1080I) & SD,

 just wondering if I switched to Dish if there would be any noticable changes

 

Dish has some great pricing right now compared to Direct tv

 

 

With that size you will definitely see a difference.

 

How ever the difference isnt that bad. As said earlier its not like your comparing VHS to DVD, but rather DVDHD to Blu ray. 

 

There both great formats but Dtv definitely has the edge, albeit slight.  Having owned both I would recommend going with which ever option makes you wallet feel good, your eyes wont care either way lol :P



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Posted 21 June 2013 - 04:08 PM

Vertical resolution is the same (1080) but horizontal resolution is 2/3 of DTVs 1920 at 1440. the human eye does not perceive horizontal resolution as acutely as it does vertical resolution, mainly because most of our panning is horizontal.

If you actually look for a slight difference, you will find it, but if you are enjoying a movie or show, it will not be evident.
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Posted 21 June 2013 - 04:14 PM

Well, you're speaking from your own experience. Others have different perception profiles: some see no difference, others see a significant one. Still others.....


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Posted 21 June 2013 - 04:36 PM

Thank you. I think we've found an honest man.......

 

BS. Not his opinion, you saying that is more honest than my opinion or others just because you may believe it. I say the color is better on Dishnetwork, in a very subtle way, but overall not enough difference in PQ between the two providers to matter. 



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Posted 21 June 2013 - 04:39 PM

Some people can't see the difference between 720p, 1080i, and 1080p yet there is a difference.

 

There is none. Well there is of course but there may be good reason people don't see a difference and I often question those who say they do. Unless the screen is big enough and you sit close enough, there is no difference to the human eye. In fact given a smaller screen size and sitting at a normal viewing distance even 480 looks no worse than 1080. It's fact.

 

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