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New contract. Gennie vs HD DVR


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#1 OFFLINE   booboo

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 01:41 PM

In a couple of months I will be in a position to get a fresh contract with DTV. I've had a rough go at it and had to cancel the service we had at the house for circumstances out of my control. My main thing is when I get finances back straight is it worth it to buy the GENNIE receiver or stick with the HDDVR? We record a good bit every fall. I've heard very little about the GENNIE. On the other hand I was very pleased with the HDDVR we had. It just didn't meet my or our recoding demands. Thanks in advance to any advice I receive.
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#2 OFFLINE   joshjr

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 01:46 PM

I would get a Genie for sure.  I have had mine since Feb 2012 and would not trade it for a regular HD DVR.  Having the ability to record any 5 channels at the same time in HD works fantastic for me.  Not to mention the Genie has 1 TB of storage space.  That helps alot too.


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Posted 20 June 2013 - 02:12 PM

Try going to the Directv HD DVR/Receiver Discussion area.  There is loads of information and comparisons for you.

But as Josh said, the Genie is better hands down.


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Posted 20 June 2013 - 02:34 PM

Are you sure you have to buy anything? Like to save you bucks if possible.   (Also, it's Genie for when you do a search. A Gennie is a type of jib on a sailboat.)


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Posted 20 June 2013 - 04:06 PM

Are you sure you have to buy anything? Like to save you bucks if possible. (Also, it's Genie for when you do a search. A Gennie is a type of jib on a sailboat.)

Maybe the OP knows about an upcoming receiver we don't lol.

It is a better receiver but better is not always best depending on your needs ;)

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 04:41 PM

. On the other hand I was very pleased with the HDDVR we had. It just didn't meet my or our recoding demands. Thanks in advance to any advice I receive.


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Posted 22 June 2013 - 11:30 AM

I would get a Genie for sure.  I have had mine since Feb 2012 and would not trade it for a regular HD DVR.  Having the ability to record any 5 channels at the same time in HD works fantastic for me.  Not to mention the Genie has 1 TB of storage space.  That helps alot too.


Must agree. I've had my HR34 for a couple of weeks now. Very satisified compared to my HR22/100. Faster and smoother. Would like to upgrade to the HR44 (with built in wifi) when it's available in my area.

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Posted 22 June 2013 - 05:44 PM

Must agree. I've had my HR34 for a couple of weeks now. Very satisified compared to my HR22/100. Faster and smoother. Would like to upgrade to the HR44 (with built in wifi) when it's available in my area.


So is the "built in" WiFi that is catching your attention? That would be the least of the features I would interested in
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Posted 22 June 2013 - 06:05 PM

So is the "built in" WiFi that is catching your attention? That would be the least of the features I would interested in

 

Indeed. Indispensible when it's the only way, but wired is always preferable to wireless for most folks.


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Posted 22 June 2013 - 06:07 PM

Indeed. Indispensible when it's the only way, but wired is always preferable to wireless for most folks.


"when there is a will there is way". wireless is a poor alternative when it comes to Home Theater gear
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Posted 23 June 2013 - 11:09 AM

So is the "built in" WiFi that is catching your attention? That would be the least of the features I would interested in


Built in wifi is not the only reason, although one less piece of equipment is fine by me. I also like that the HR44 is smaller and faster (from what I've heard). Still, all in all, very happy with the 34.

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Posted 24 June 2013 - 10:03 AM

I don't have a Genie.  I have built up a population of five HD DVRs over the years and have a WHDVR network so the ability to record everything I wish to record is not an issue for me.  At worst, I may need to initiate a recording in a different room and honestly, that is so easy with the DirecTV app on my phone that it isn't an issue for me.  I don't even have to get up to do that.  I don't realtly find myself thinking that having a Genie would make my life better and easier

 

Now having said that, I certainly would not refuse a Genie if it were offered to me.  It appears to be a fine unit.  It just doesn't really offer anything I want that I don't already have.

 

However, one thing it does offer that I don't have is a single, consolidated device to record and store all of your recroding.  But in my mind that feature is also a liability and it is actually something I don't want.  There is a significant risk associated with that "feature" that I don't see getting a lot of discussion.

 

If your setup consists of a Genie as your sole recording/storage device, and it is serving a remaining population of clients and/or H2X receivers you are effectively putting all of your eggs in one basket.  If that Genie fails for any reason you will lose every single one of your recordings and every one of your series links.  A distributed recording/storage environment like the one I have does not have that same risk.  I can lose isolated receivers and the recordings that are saved on it, but the rest of my recordings and links remain.


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Posted 24 June 2013 - 11:19 AM

Good point, and one that has been made from time to time. The only thing I have that I'd be upset about losing if my recorders all went down is time (mine), and possibly a few bucks. Virtually everything is replaceable for 98% of us. 


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Posted 24 June 2013 - 12:08 PM

I don't have a Genie.  I have built up a population of five HD DVRs over the years and have a WHDVR network so the ability to record everything I wish to record is not an issue for me.  At worst, I may need to initiate a recording in a different room and honestly, that is so easy with the DirecTV app on my phone that it isn't an issue for me.  I don't even have to get up to do that.  I don't realtly find myself thinking that having a Genie would make my life better and easier

 

Now having said that, I certainly would not refuse a Genie if it were offered to me.  It appears to be a fine unit.  It just doesn't really offer anything I want that I don't already have.

 

However, one thing it does offer that I don't have is a single, consolidated device to record and store all of your recroding.  But in my mind that feature is also a liability and it is actually something I don't want.  There is a significant risk associated with that "feature" that I don't see getting a lot of discussion.

 

If your setup consists of a Genie as your sole recording/storage device, and it is serving a remaining population of clients and/or H2X receivers you are effectively putting all of your eggs in one basket.  If that Genie fails for any reason you will lose every single one of your recordings and every one of your series links.  A distributed recording/storage environment like the one I have does not have that same risk.  I can lose isolated receivers and the recordings that are saved on it, but the rest of my recordings and links remain.

 

Yup, that's why I don't have a Genie.  And, I think they charge another $25 a month just to have the one Genie, is that correct?  

 

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Posted 24 June 2013 - 12:25 PM

Yup, that's why I don't have a Genie. And, I think they charge another $25 a month just to have the one Genie, is that correct?

Rich


Rich, a genie has the exact same pricing structure as any hr2x. There is no difference.

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Posted 24 June 2013 - 12:32 PM

Though on older accounts, if there are multiple HD boxes, the Whole Home fee of $3 is required for the Genie.



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Posted 24 June 2013 - 12:38 PM

Rich, a genie has the exact same pricing structure as any hr2x. There is no difference.

 

I could have sworn I saw a $25 charge posted somewhere on the forum.  Wrong again, I guess.  Happens all the time.

 

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Posted 24 June 2013 - 12:41 PM

Though on older accounts, if there are multiple HD boxes, the Whole Home fee of $3 is required for the Genie.

 

That, I knew.  Haven't really followed the pricing of the Genies or much else about them.  I've already got 24 tuners.  And I'm quite satisfied with my 24s.  

 

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Posted 24 June 2013 - 12:43 PM

With all due respect Rich, your HD DVR population as I recall is one for the record books.  I have five in my whole house.  I think you have five in one room...and that's only one room.

 

Not that there's anything wrong with that.   :)


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Posted 24 June 2013 - 12:46 PM

I could have sworn I saw a $25 charge posted somewhere on the forum.  Wrong again, I guess.  Happens all the time.

 

Rich

 

New accounts have a $25 "Advanced DVR" fee that takes the DVR fee, HD fee and Whole Home fee, then rounds it up to $25. That might be the charge you're thinking of.



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Posted 24 June 2013 - 12:48 PM

Indeed. Indispensible when it's the only way, but wired is always preferable to wireless for most folks.

 

Sure would be nice if someone could perfect wireless devices.  My laptop works flawlessly when used as a wireless device,  but that's the only thing that seems to.  My Roku 3 sits a couple feet from my router and that's flawless, naturally.  Haven't tried it farther away from the router so I can't really say anything else about its wireless capability.  I've often thought about trying wireless speakers...

 

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Posted 24 June 2013 - 12:53 PM

With all due respect Rich, your HD DVR population as I recall is one for the record books.  I have five in my whole house.  I think you have five in one room...and that's only one room.

 

Not that there's anything wrong with that.   :)

 

Yup, just don't trust them.  Gotta admit the 24s are really good machines, but I have had problems with several of them.  Lost four in the last year, if my memory serves me correctly.  I only have two leased HRs left and I just can't bring myself to deactivate them.  If I just hadn't bought all those TVs...

 

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Posted 24 June 2013 - 12:55 PM

New accounts have a $25 "Advanced DVR" fee that takes the DVR fee, HD fee and Whole Home fee, then rounds it up to $25. That might be the charge you're thinking of.

 

Probably, that kinda makes getting the HD fee taken off difficult, doesn't it?

 

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Posted 24 June 2013 - 12:57 PM

Sure would be nice if someone could perfect wireless devices. My laptop works flawlessly when used as a wireless device, but that's the only thing that seems to. My Roku 3 sits a couple feet from my router and that's flawless, naturally. Haven't tried it farther away from the router so I can't really say anything else about its wireless capability. I've often thought about trying wireless speakers...

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Posted 24 June 2013 - 02:01 PM

Probably, that kinda makes getting the HD fee taken off difficult, doesn't it?

They don't take the HD fee off.  They issue a monthly $10 credit.  That same credit should be able to be issued regardless of whether you have 3 individual fees or if you have a single consolidated "Advanced DVR" fee on your monthly bill.






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