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GenieGO instead of NFL ST streaming?


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#1 OFFLINE   itzme

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 12:35 PM

Can GenieGo be setup to accomplish the same benefit as, and instead of, the live streaming feature of Sunday Ticket Max? For example, if I had to leave my house over a Sunday, could I set up a GenieGo to watch my teams games? Can that be setup from outside the house? I understand GenieGo may not be able to do live streaming, but can it maybe stream with a slight delay?

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 12:38 PM

GenieGo (formerly nomad) will eventually be allowed to allow live streaming of DVR recordings. So, I believe you could set a game to record and then use the GenieGo to live stream it to a device outside the home.


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Posted 25 June 2013 - 12:56 PM

Thanks. I'm wondering what the pros and cons would be. Issues like HD, pause, ff, convenience, things I may not have thought of.

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 05:02 PM

Live streaming will be launching on 6/27. However, the GenieGo would not stream/download NFLST games.
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Posted 25 June 2013 - 06:03 PM

Using a dedicated streaming device (Monsoon or Sling) is an option if your Internet uplink is robust enough.

It seems likely that if they offer a additional cost streaming option, the Genie Go probably won't duplicate it for free.

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 06:08 PM

Live streaming will be launching on 6/27. However, the GenieGo would not stream/download NFLST games.

 

Is the issue that the GenieGo won't stream/download NFLST games...or DVR's can't record them?



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Posted 25 June 2013 - 06:29 PM

DVRs can record NFLST games, but GenieGo won't transcode or stream them.
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Posted 25 June 2013 - 06:32 PM

Is the issue that the GenieGo won't stream/download NFLST games...or DVR's can't record them?


is a DirecTV restriction, perhaps due to contracts....
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Posted 26 June 2013 - 06:00 AM

is a DirecTV restriction, perhaps due to contracts....

Yes.  Others have reported failures of Nomad/GenieGo to transcode sports and VOD in the past.  We've asked for a simple notification in the GUI for shows that will never transcode but that has never happened.  Users are left guessing why things don't work and then just get frustrated.



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Posted 26 June 2013 - 06:12 AM

You can transcode your locally available games and nationally broadcasted games, but GenieGo won't transcode the out of market games.

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 10:41 AM

You can transcode your locally available games and nationally broadcasted games, but GenieGo won't transcode the out of market games.


The GenieGo will transcode any game that is broadcast on any of the "regular" satellite channels, games on special subscription such as NFL ST and the like, not so much
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Posted 26 June 2013 - 10:44 AM

To be honest, if you're really looking for a live streaming solution I'd vote for Sling over GenieGo. With Sling you have the ability for the system to dynamically adjust the picture quality to match the bandwidth available where with GenieGo it's fixed to the same PQ that it would used for transcoding recordings.


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Posted 26 June 2013 - 10:47 AM

To be honest, if you're really looking for a live streaming solution I'd vote for Sling over GenieGo. With Sling you have the ability for the system to dynamically adjust the picture quality to match the bandwidth available where with GenieGo it's fixed to the same PQ that it would used for transcoding recordings.


which for me is a plus. the picture is good as it is, and since it does not require internet connection is always the same. Outside of network streaming will be adaptive
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Posted 26 June 2013 - 10:49 AM

which for me is a plus. the picture is good as it is, and since it does not require internet connection is always the same. Outside of network streaming will be adaptive

So you're saying that GenieGo out of home streaming will be adaptive like Sling is now?


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Posted 26 June 2013 - 10:54 AM

So you're saying that GenieGo out of home streaming will be adaptive like Sling is now?


Yes
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Posted 26 June 2013 - 11:25 AM

which for me is a plus. the picture is good as it is, and since it does not require internet connection is always the same. Outside of network streaming will be adaptive

 

 

So you're saying that GenieGo out of home streaming will be adaptive like Sling is now?

 

 

Yes

 

So it GenieGo can do on the fly streaming with better PQ then the transcoded file then it has now, does that mean there will be a change in transcoding speed making it faster? It would make sense if the hardware can do that in real time then why couldn't it do it for transcoding so it's not 1:1 as it is now.


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Posted 26 June 2013 - 11:47 AM

Since I haven't seen either technologies (sling or geniego), and since GenieGo seems to be on the verge of evolving, I'm appreciating this conversation between Rad and peds48. Keep going, we're listening... :)

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 12:59 PM

Since I haven't seen either technologies (sling or geniego), and since GenieGo seems to be on the verge of evolving, I'm appreciating this conversation between Rad and peds48. Keep going, we're listening... :)

 

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 03:05 PM

So it GenieGo can do on the fly streaming with better PQ then the transcoded file then it has now, does that mean there will be a change in transcoding speed making it faster? It would make sense if the hardware can do that in real time then why couldn't it do it for transcoding so it's not 1:1 as it is now.


AFAIK, the picture (outside streaming) will be the same as it is now(transcoding), which is very good for the smartphones and decent for laptops. Note that there is no app for tablets as of yet. The adaptive will come into place where you are streaming with poor WiFi coverage, note I said WiFi as the outside streaming will only work on WiFi on initial release. Transcoding process will remain the same, but you now have the ability to start the transcoding process "on the go"
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Posted 26 June 2013 - 04:08 PM

I didn't know about the lack of tablet apps. Price is also a factor. I've heard of folks getting GenieGo very cheap from DTV. slings look costly, especially for an occasional user. In the ideal world, we'd be able to play or stream all DTV content, AND maybe even airplay mirror it from an Ipad at a vacation house's TV.




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