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Channel Master and Echostar working on new OTA DVR


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#1 OFFLINE   Athlon646464

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Posted 13 July 2013 - 06:02 AM

Channel Master and Echostar working on new OTA DVR
 
Sometimes you just want to enjoy TV without making a commitment, and time-shifting broadcasts either means building your own HTPC or purchasing an OTA DVR -- like the now defunct Boxee. 
 
Back in 2011, Channel Master teamed up with Entone to fill that niche and a recent FCC filing shows the company (once again) partnering with Echostar to bring a new OTA DVR to the market. The set-top box -- called Channel Master K77 (not pictured) -- also provides over-the-top functionality and comes in two flavors: CM-7500GB16, which features 16GB of built-in flash (and relies on external USB storage for DVR support) and CM-7500GB320, which incorporates a 320GB hard drive. 
 
While it's unclear when the device will launch, it will be competing with a number of similar offerings from Simple.TV, Tivo (Series 5) and Aereo once it lands on store shelves.
 
 
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#2 OFFLINE   JWKessler

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Posted 14 July 2013 - 09:39 AM

Add a clear QAM tuner for basic cable subscribers and make it function like an old VCR so you don't have to pay a fee to use it and they might have something useful for us cheapskates who simply want to view TV when we want to.

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Posted 14 July 2013 - 09:48 AM

It sounds very much like the Dish DTVPAL DVR they had produced earlier. I have one of those - it works pretty well, except that now the only guide info you get is the PSIP that all stations are required - usually about 12 hours to about 72 hours, depending on the station. It was really great until ROVI turned off the TVGOS and you could get up to a week of good guide info.


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Posted 15 July 2013 - 07:51 AM

It could be a good product. I wonder how many tuners it would have, could it support external antenna, could it stream to other devices?


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Posted 15 July 2013 - 10:26 AM

It needs at least 2 tuners, And the ability to copy to your PC, else - get a TiVo. 

 

Why settle for less when the best is possible cheaper.

 

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Posted 15 July 2013 - 11:10 AM

It was my impression the 'old' Channel Master OTA DVR just needed a software update or two to be halfway decent.  Did that ever happen, or am I mixing it up with something else ??

 

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Posted 15 July 2013 - 11:31 AM

It was my impression the 'old' Channel Master OTA DVR just needed a software update or two to be halfway decent.  Did that ever happen, or am I mixing it up with something else ??

 

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Posted 15 July 2013 - 01:04 PM

With ChuckieCo involved, it'll probably have a fee to nickle and dime you every month.

 

Without that, it could be OK.  The previous CM DVR was far too expensive.


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Posted 15 July 2013 - 02:28 PM

It needs at least 2 tuners, And the ability to copy to your PC, else - get a TiVo. 

 

Why settle for less when the best is possible cheaper.

 

Without an antenna it is a brick, not a tuner!

 

Because Tivo has halted production of models with OTA tuners.  And because Tivo charges an outrageous monthly fee for their guide info.  My guess is that any "savings" you'd get by getting a Tivo would quickly be eaten up in guide fees.



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Posted 22 July 2013 - 11:57 AM

I was a beta tester for the Original  Dish DTVPAL DVR and thought it was a pretty good ota machine.  My only complaint was i couldn't hook iit up to basic cable and have it work.  

 

I agree if they do put a QAM Turner in it; there could be quite a market from us cheapstakes, who want to move to IPTV.


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Posted 22 July 2013 - 12:19 PM

I could give a little secret as you was a beta tester, the model [TR-50] has tuner's chips what are supporting 8VSB and QAM modulation; it was a matter of FW development to employ the capabilty

bur echostar went more profitable way - get 8VSB only signals and added PayTV features (smart card, ordering PPV, subsribe, etc)



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Posted 27 July 2013 - 08:26 AM

I agree that it should have ClearQAM functionality and I hope it doesn't come with a monthly fee like TiVO.

 

Channel Master already sells a ATSC/NTSC/ClearQAM tuner for $123 (that seems very expensive to me, but it is one of the few (if not only) ClearQAM tuners available), but it doesn't have the DVR functionality.  I hope they would also include ClearQAM in this box too.  

 

I work for a University and we are migrating to digital ClearQAM over the summer in our residence halls.  It would be great to point students to a DVR that supports ClearQAM with no monthly fee.  I just hope the price is reasonable.


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Posted 07 August 2013 - 07:45 AM

I wish the broadcasters would create a DVR themselves. I think a lot of new functionality could be created.



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Posted 11 August 2013 - 07:17 PM

I wish the broadcasters would create a DVR themselves. I think a lot of new functionality could be created.

 

You meant the channels themselves?  They wouldn't allow them to do anything like skipping or ffwd.  But theyd have every pop up in the world during commercials to buy anything that was in the commercial...



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Posted 12 August 2013 - 06:59 AM

I'm thinking something more like the UK's "Red Button" service....

If I'm watching a newscast, I could push a "Red Button" during a story, and the DVR would download background/sidebar information, in any format (graphics, text, audio, etc) to be viewed a bit later. Talking-head programs, like newscasts, would be ideal times to send the additional non-broadcast format data, since the newscasts generally have low bandwidth requirements.

A car commercial could use the "Red Button" to send you a more detailed look at the vehicle and it's options...or even let you get time to read all those "legal details" that are usually in such fine print.

A story about weather in a certain area of the world could include a "Red Button" invitation, which would let you view a more in-depth forecast, or even allow the DVR to accept updates throughout the storm.

All this info could be trickled in to your DVR during low-bandwidth portions of the programming, since it would not be "live".

And, the stations could add small ads to the downloads, just like they do on their websites, so they could justify their efforts.



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Posted 12 August 2013 - 08:49 AM

 

I'm thinking something more like the UK's "Red Button" service....

 

To the viewer/tax-supported BBC, you are the customer. To US commercial TV networks, you are the product - advertisers are the customer.

So, the BBC gives you the red button, and the US commercial networks try to figure out how to make you stop skipping their ads.

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Posted 12 August 2013 - 10:25 AM

Follow this company....Simple.tv

 

Started as a Kickstarter campaign.  About four months, they secured 6M from New World Ventures (VC run by a Pritzker).

 

Promising hardware for an OTA DVR solution.

 

https://www.simple.tv/overview


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Posted 19 August 2013 - 11:45 AM

I could give a little secret as you was a beta tester, the model [TR-50] has tuner's chips what are supporting 8VSB and QAM modulation; it was a matter of FW development to employ the capabilty

bur echostar went more profitable way - get 8VSB only signals and added PayTV features (smart card, ordering PPV, subsribe, etc)

The TR-50 tuner would not have qualified for the $50 government card had it included QAM capability.



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Posted 19 August 2013 - 05:02 PM

TR-50 (its a DVR, remember ?) never been qualified for $40 coupon; perhaps you think about TR-40.



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Posted 19 August 2013 - 05:10 PM

Follow this company....Simple.tv

 

Started as a Kickstarter campaign.  About four months, they secured 6M from New World Ventures (VC run by a Pritzker).

 

Promising hardware for an OTA DVR solution.

 

https://www.simple.tv/overview

Nay.

 

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