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#26 OFFLINE   trh

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 07:07 AM

Fall protection law doesn't vary by market though.

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 07:11 AM

Fall protection law doesn't vary by market though.


and who is implying this?????

what good is a law if it does not get enforced? !rolling
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Posted 21 July 2013 - 07:53 AM

Since my SWM dish had one coax going to the DVR, I don't need a new dish.



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Posted 21 July 2013 - 07:57 AM

and who is implying this?????
what good is a law if it does not get enforced? !rolling


Seriously?

The law was put in place to save lifes. Just because there may not be an OSHA inspector within 100 miles doesn't mean it isn't a good law and that the law should be ignored.

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 08:02 AM

Since my SWM dish had one coax going to the DVR, I don't need a new dish.

Not necessarily.

What equipment do you have now and what will you have/keep if you get a genie installed?

If you go over nine turners, your LNB might need to be changed.

Is there one coax coming off the dish to a splitter right now? Or is there four wires coming off the dish to a multi-switch?

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 08:33 AM

Not necessarily.

What equipment do you have now and what will you have/keep if you get a genie installed?

If you go over nine turners, your LNB might need to be changed.

Is there one coax coming off the dish to a splitter right now? Or is there four wires coming off the dish to a multi-switch?

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I don't have DTV now, but the Dish is still there. As I recall, there was one coax going to a splitter and from the splitter to my basement and up to the 3 TVs. Looking at the Dish, there is still one coax coming down.

 

I called a DTV local installer to inquire about the HR 44. He told me they will probably have it by end of August and the C41W, and said to call back.

 


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Posted 21 July 2013 - 10:07 AM

Do I still need the Whole-Home DVR Service fee for just the Genie and the Genie clients? I do have 2 other DVRs, but they won't be on the whole home network.


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Posted 21 July 2013 - 10:12 AM

Do I still need the Whole-Home DVR Service fee for just the Genie and the Genie clients? I do have 2 other DVRs, but they won't be on the whole home network.

My understanding is when having Genie and clients you get that Whole-Home DVR service fee.



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Posted 21 July 2013 - 12:20 PM

Do I still need the Whole-Home DVR Service fee for just the Genie and the Genie clients? I do have 2 other DVRs, but they won't be on the whole home network.

 

Yes, otherwise the clients won't work.


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Posted 21 July 2013 - 05:20 PM

Seriously?

The law was put in place to save lifes. Just because there may not be an OSHA inspector within 100 miles doesn't mean it isn't a good law and that the law should be ignored.

But....you keep missing the point.... I never said it wasn't

 

All I said is that this is not enforced everywhere, this is a FACT.  


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Posted 24 July 2013 - 03:33 PM

1. No, no drive at all.  They have nothing but the guts needed to drive the RVU client, not even a tuner.  (They use a Genie tuner)

 

2. They can connect your Genie to the Internet 1 of 3 ways.  They could use a Cinema Connection Kit (CCK) that hooks into your DECA "cloud" and to your router.  They could also just run network cable from your Genie to your router if it's close enough.  IF your Genie is an HR44 it can be hooked up via WiFi.  The "preferred" method is using the CCK.

 

3. No, everything is recorded and see on the Genie.

 

4. The Genie Clients and Genie are completely silent.

 

5. Your mileage may vary.  The only way to know for sure is to call DirecTV.

The Clients are silent but not the Genie. There is a fan in the Genie, HR44, and it does work. I believe it was Solid Signal's review that said HR44 Genie is not as quiet as HR24.

 

The only silent DVR I know of is sitting in my house, 500GB hdd_with_no_fan.



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Posted 24 July 2013 - 03:52 PM

Well, silent definitely sounds good, but I think that could be a matter of perception. If you sit within three feet of the HR 44, is it silent when recording?

I can verify that the HR44 is silent.  The hard drive *shouldn't* make any noise, but it all depends on the hard drive.  Some hard drives start out silent and over time make more noise.  That's just something we will all have to live with until solid state drives are the norm.  The power supply on the HR44 is external which eliminates the need for constant fan cooling, there is a fan that does kick on if the unit gets too hot.  So if the ambient temperature in the room is high the fan may kick on to protect the system. 


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Posted 24 July 2013 - 04:00 PM

I can verify that the HR44 is silent.  The hard drive *shouldn't* make any noise, but it all depends on the hard drive.  Some hard drives start out silent and over time make more noise.  That's just something we will all have to live with until solid state drives are the norm.  The power supply on the HR44 is external which eliminates the need for constant fan cooling, there is a fan that does kick on if the unit gets too hot.  So if the ambient temperature in the room is high the fan may kick on to protect the system. 

Bottom line is the HR44 is not silent. Silent is my HD DVR with no fan. You could say the HR44 is almost silent, but to say silent is not accurate.



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Posted 24 July 2013 - 06:22 PM

Bottom line is the HR44 is not silent. Silent is my HD DVR with no fan. You could say the HR44 is almost silent, but to say silent is not accurate.

 

The HR44 IS silent.  The fan is not on 24/7.  Only at boot time and IF it gets hot.  If you keep the HR44 in an area that has air movement the fan doesn't kick on.


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Posted 24 July 2013 - 06:37 PM

I'm sure the 44 makes some noise, but I haven't heard it. Got one installed last week.  Moved an HR24 out of the Living Room and put the 44 in it's place.  The 24 we could sometimes hear; but not never when the TV was on. 



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Posted 24 July 2013 - 07:33 PM

I've never heard the fan go on on my hr44 except for its check on boot up.

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Posted 25 July 2013 - 06:02 AM

I've never heard the fan go on on my hr44 except for its check on boot up.

 

Same here, not once.


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Posted 25 July 2013 - 07:41 AM

Same here, not once.


Same. I have it in my bedroom and my AC and bedroom ceiling fan make more noise than the HR44.


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Posted 25 July 2013 - 10:53 AM

The HR44 is not silent, and cannot be advertised as such. I have a PS3 and xbox 360 in my den, aside from TV and computer. Since I smoke a pipe, I keep the door to my den closed when smoking. Playing the PS3 or xbox results in the room getting quite warm, even in winter! I have central air and even with that on, the room is around 80 degrees with PS3 or xbox 360 use. Now, my HD 500GB DVR from cable is S_I_L_E_N_T because there is no fan inside.

 

I don't know why some persist in trying to say the HR44 is silent when it has a fan! A fan makes noise and any such noise negates the silent designation.



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Posted 25 July 2013 - 11:18 AM

I don't know why some persist in trying to say the HR44 is silent when it has a fan! A fan makes noise and any such noise negates the silent designation.

 

A fan makes noise only when it's running.  The only time the fan runs on the HR44 is on boot up.


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Posted 25 July 2013 - 11:27 AM

A fan makes noise only when it's running.  The only time the fan runs on the HR44 is on boot up.

No, that is not an accurate statement. The fan will run when temperature dictates. In addition, any fan noise disqualifies it from being silent. Maybe you need to look up the meaning of silent.



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Posted 25 July 2013 - 12:11 PM

Well, how about for 95.894% of definitions of "silent"? :)


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Posted 25 July 2013 - 01:04 PM

No, that is not an accurate statement. The fan will run when temperature dictates. In addition, any fan noise disqualifies it from being silent. Maybe you need to look up the meaning of silent.

 

Well if you don't keep it in a sweat box the fan has no need to kick on.  The fan only runs on my HR44 at boot time therefore it is silent unless it is booting and even then the fan is only on for like 3 seconds.


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Posted 25 July 2013 - 02:02 PM

No, that is not an accurate statement. The fan will run when temperature dictates. In addition, any fan noise disqualifies it from being silent. Maybe you need to look up the meaning of silent.


My unit has never once reached that tempeture to require the fan to go on. It'd probably have to be in a tight unventilated place, and if its that hot, then you'd probably see it get fried if there wasn't some type of fan on it. The hr44 has great ventilation a Hi Definition heat syncs to keep the fan from needing to come on.

So that means it is as silent as you cable DVR without a fan, unless it gets so hot that it'd die without it, which if your cable DVR was in that position, it'd just die.

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Posted 25 July 2013 - 03:42 PM

My unit has never once reached that tempeture to require the fan to go on. It'd probably have to be in a tight unventilated place, and if its that hot, then you'd probably see it get fried if there wasn't some type of fan on it. The hr44 has great ventilation a Hi Definition heat syncs to keep the fan from needing to come on.

So that means it is as silent as you cable DVR without a fan, unless it gets so hot that it'd die without it, which if your cable DVR was in that position, it'd just die.

No, it is not as silent as my DVR. My DVR never makes noise, whether starting  or operating, regardless of the temperature.

 

Years ago they had silent movies, and they called them silent because there was no sound. Even if your DVR just makes noise upon starting, it is not silent. No noise = silent.






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