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#1 OFFLINE   lacubs

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 07:20 PM

Tomorrow Fox National Games don't start until 3, so why don't we get the 1PM Games?

 

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#2 OFFLINE   trh

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 08:25 PM

From Wikipedia.

Fox has certain rights for afternoon Major League Baseball games on Saturdays, and ESPN has the same rights for night games on Sundays. Local broadcasters cannot show games of in-market teams regardless of whether the game is home or away as long as the game of the local team has a start time or likely end time intruding on Fox or ESPN's national window, unless that network waives its exclusivity. This is to encourage people to watch the ESPN or Fox game. A further enticement comes simply through the fact that Fox offers mostly regional coverage. Currently, local broadcasts are allowed on Saturdays if the game starts before 1:10 p.m. ET or after 7:05 p.m. ET,[14] but at no other time. If a game starts at 6 p.m. ET (both the teams in the state of Florida, the Miami Marlins and the Tampa Bay Rays, have done this occasionally), the local broadcaster must either join the game in progress or air it on tape delay at 7 p.m. ET, the end of the exclusive FOX window. Also, none of the local 1 p.m. telecasts can be rebroadcast outside the market of the participating teams, specifically on MLB Extra Innings, except that Chicago Cubs and White Sox games can be shown on the superstation WGN America.



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Posted 26 July 2013 - 08:31 PM

thanks, movie day then!



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Posted 27 July 2013 - 11:56 AM

From Wikipedia.
 

there have been some make up WGN games in that time frame that where only on WGN 9 and other teams can show some make up games locally only as well.


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Posted 27 July 2013 - 12:26 PM

Weird, the Yankees intentionally scheduled a game that is in the Fox window? I thought those games couldn't be televised at all like the Mariners game at home vs the Twins but the Yankees game gets to be televised locally. What is the difference here?

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Posted 27 July 2013 - 01:00 PM

Fox has been having games in the 4pm slot which allowed for the 1pm games to be shown. For whatever reason today's game is 3pm which blacks out all games between 1 and 7.

 

The Yankees always schedule their Saturday games at 1pm regardless of what Fox does.

 

The better question is why is Fox allowed to randomly pick a start time which affects 2 start times instead of just one.



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Posted 27 July 2013 - 01:02 PM

It starts at 1:05 not 1:10 when the blackout starts so it won't be available out of market but in market is fine.

 

 

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Posted 27 July 2013 - 01:12 PM

My question is why are the Yankees allowed to televise their game in market but not the Mariners? Seems like a double standard is happening here.

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Posted 27 July 2013 - 01:16 PM

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Posted 27 July 2013 - 01:54 PM

My question is why are the Yankees allowed to televise their game in market but not the Mariners? Seems like a double standard is happening here.


The "double standard" is because of the time zones. A 1:05 start time in New York is outside of Fox's window, but a 1:05 start time in Seattle is squarely inside it.

If Seattle had pushed their start time back to 4:05 Pacific (or later), they'd have been allowed to televise today.

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Posted 27 July 2013 - 07:02 PM

Fox has been having games in the 4pm slot which allowed for the 1pm games to be shown. For whatever reason today's game is 3pm which blacks out all games between 1 and 7.

The Yankees always schedule their Saturday games at 1pm regardless of what Fox does.

The better question is why is Fox allowed to randomly pick a start time which affects 2 start times instead of just one.


I'm sure it is not random and some sort of option is in the contract.

As for the odd time, fox has UFC tonight. Maybe they wanted to make sure there was not an overlap?
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Posted 28 July 2013 - 12:08 AM

I'm sure it is not random and some sort of option is in the contract.

As for the odd time, fox has UFC tonight. Maybe they wanted to make sure there was not an overlap?

With the rain delay in today's Mets/Nationals game it would have came real close if it started at 4pm and instead of one inning to play after the delay they had 4 innings.

As for Seattle's game starting in the middle of the Fox window, the UFC event was in Seattle too and they likely didn't want the traffic from both events ending at the same time.

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Posted 28 July 2013 - 09:19 PM

With the rain delay in today's Mets/Nationals game it would have came real close if it started at 4pm and instead of one inning to play after the delay they had 4 innings.

As for Seattle's game starting in the middle of the Fox window, the UFC event was in Seattle too and they likely didn't want the traffic from both events ending at the same time.


I'm pretty sure rain delayed games are allowed to resume on TV even if during an exclusive broadcast window.

Edited by tjguitar, 28 July 2013 - 09:20 PM.


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Posted 28 July 2013 - 10:55 PM

I'm pretty sure rain delayed games are allowed to resume on TV even if during an exclusive broadcast window.

That's not the point, the point was that Fox had UFC starting at 8pm, and if the game started at the usual 4pm start time instead of an hour earlier, they would have had about 4 more innings to play when the game resumed instead of 1, which would cut it real close to the start time for the UFC event.

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 07:49 AM

It starts at 1:05 not 1:10 when the blackout starts so it won't be available out of market but in market is fine.

Joe, where did you get that list and map?  I know there is one each week for the NFL season, but never saw one for other sports.


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