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Raycom stations may drop from Dish at midnight (and now back on Dish again)


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#1 OFFLINE   FTA Michael

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Posted 31 July 2013 - 11:13 AM

I hadn't seen this mentioned here except for the KAIT thread. I ran into it on the site for KLTV (Tyler TX) and also saw it at WBRC (Montgomery AL). They all say that they may go dark on Dish when the deadline hits at midnight tonight, July 31. I'm guessing this is for all Raycom stations; the proof is left as an exercise for the reader.  :grin:

 

Once again: Yadda yadda free over-the-air yadda profiting from someone else's content yadda. With a fresh helping of yadda Aereo yadda Congress yadda Hopper. Does that cover everything?

 

Personally, when Dish had a dispute with one of my local stations, I broke down and installed a serious rooftop antenna. That was one of the best purchases I've made. Here's hoping more viewers in the affected areas discover all the interesting sub-channels they'll get over-the-air.


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Posted 31 July 2013 - 11:38 AM

Like I said on that thread (http://www.dbstalk.c...o/#entry3163987) Drop 'em.


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Posted 31 July 2013 - 12:37 PM

I hadn't seen this mentioned here except for the KAIT thread. I ran into it on the site for KLTV (Tyler TX) and also saw it at WBRC (Montgomery AL). They all say that they may go dark on Dish when the deadline hits at midnight tonight, July 31. I'm guessing this is for all Raycom stations; the proof is left as an exercise for the reader.  :grin:

 

Once again: Yadda yadda free over-the-air yadda profiting from someone else's content yadda. With a fresh helping of yadda Aereo yadda Congress yadda Hopper. Does that cover everything?

 

Personally, when Dish had a dispute with one of my local stations, I broke down and installed a serious rooftop antenna. That was one of the best purchases I've made. Here's hoping more viewers in the affected areas discover all the interesting sub-channels they'll get over-the-air.

Yep roof top antenna, one of the best investments I ever made. But honestly I've just come to the point where anytime we lose a channel for any reason, I just look at it along the lines of ya know I have dozens of other choices and usually more than I can watch at any given time on my DVR. Sure it sucks when it's a channel that I like but hey sometimes shows I like get canceled too and that sucks but somehow there's always something else to watch. I just figure it's in a channel's best interest to make sure they keep themselves in front of my eyeballs, because you know what, there's not a single one of them that's irrereplaceable and if I don't have one there's plenty of others to take it's place.




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Posted 31 July 2013 - 12:40 PM

+1

 

I've got so much recorded with more coming now that when CBS and CW go dark from the Raycom/Dish drama that I won't even miss them!  Heck, until today I didn't even know they were owned by Raycom!  :)


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Posted 31 July 2013 - 12:45 PM

Biggest issue is the convenience of a DVR, but with Windows Media Center and other options, that's an easy workaround.

 

I don't have locals anyways, so I really don't care.


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Posted 31 July 2013 - 01:05 PM

Biggest issue is the convenience of a DVR, but with Windows Media Center and other options, that's an easy workaround.

 

I don't have locals anyways, so I really don't care.

 

Don't Dish have certain DVR's or an add on for OTA?


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Posted 31 July 2013 - 01:34 PM

Dish does have OTA available either built-in or as an add-on depending on DVR.


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Posted 31 July 2013 - 05:16 PM

Thanks for the heads-up! 

 

I've got 2 Raycom stations in my market (CBS & MyNet).  No problemm getting them OTA, I live in the antenna farm.  The only bad thing is losing the EPG.  I wonder if the subchannels EPG (which actually have correct data for the Raycom station's MeTV (on 19) and Bounce (on 43).

 

I went to their website and found this:

http://www.19actionn...ish-subscribers


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Posted 31 July 2013 - 08:44 PM

No one has been able to answer why Dish drops the guide information OTA when they drop a station.  They license the guide data from Tribune and not the station.


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Posted 01 August 2013 - 06:11 AM

Dish Network, Raycom squabble blacks out local channels in 36 markets
 
Apparently it's the season for issues between networks and pay-TV distributors, as Dish Network customers in 36 networks are missing some of their local channels as of late last night. Dish and Raycom Media has failed to reach an agreement, so stations the network owns including ABC, CBS, Fox, NBC, CW and MyNetworkTV stations in 36 markets stretching from Cincinnati to Honolulu have gone dark. 
 
Here is the full list of which ones, and as usual both sides are claiming the other is to blame for not wanting to reach a fair agreement. Your guess is as good as ours as to when the tiff will be resolved, however so far, unlike CBS vs. Time Warner Cable neither side is suggesting Aereo as a replacement.
 
The action affects viewers of various ABC, CBS, Fox and NBC-affiliated stations in the following markets: Cleveland, Ohio (CBS); Panama City, Fla. (Fox); Montgomery, Ala. (NBC); Knoxville, Tenn. (Fox); Savannah, Ga. (CBS); Toledo, Ohio (CBS, Fox); Columbus, Ga. (ABC); Richmond-Petersburg, Va. (NBC); Cincinnati, Ohio (Fox); Jonesboro, Ark. (ABC); Tyler-Longview, Texas (ABC); Biloxi-Gulfport, Miss. (ABC); Paducah, Ky. (CBS); Honolulu, Hawaii (CBS and NBC); Tucson, Ariz. (CBS); Shreveport, La. (CBS); Baton Rouge, La. (CBS); Charlotte, N.C. (CBS); Charleston, S.C. (CBS); Ottumwa-Kirksville, Mo. (Fox); Birmingham, Ala. (Fox); Dothan, Ala. (Fox); West Palm Beach, Fla. (Fox); Augusta, Ga. (Fox); Lubbock, Texas (NBC); Lake Charles, La. (NBC); Huntsville-Decatur, Ala. (NBC); Albany, Ga. (NBC); Louisville, Ky. (NBC); Hattiesburg-Laurel, Miss. (NBC); Wilmington, N.C. (NBC and Fox); Evansville, Ind. (NBC); Columbia, S.C. (NBC); Jackson, Miss. (NBC); Florence-Myrtle Beach, Fla. (NBC); and Memphis, Tenn. (NBC).
 
Also affected are various CW and MyNetworkTV channels in five markets: Baton Rouge, La.; Cleveland, Ohio; Honolulu, Hawaii; Paducah, Ky.; and Richmond-Petersburg, Va.
 
 
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Posted 01 August 2013 - 07:22 AM

Wow, that "Commentary" by the VP was hilarious mudslinging.


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Posted 01 August 2013 - 07:37 AM

Yes the local channels OTA.. shows same guide and locals on dish.. but this morning since WBTV out of charlotte has gone dark the channel OTA has the same see info guide so we loose the guide data. I can get WIS tv10 out of Columbia to as well and it has lost the guide data to


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Posted 01 August 2013 - 07:40 AM

I loathe congressional involvement in most things, but is it time that Congress steps in to empower the FCC to stop this fee fight crap? Should SOMEthing legislatively be done, or is it really best to maintain the current free market environment here? Just wondering.


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Posted 01 August 2013 - 08:21 AM

I loathe congressional involvement in most things, but is it time that Congress steps in to empower the FCC to stop this fee fight crap? Should SOMEthing legislatively be done, or is it really best to maintain the current free market environment here? Just wondering.

 

I think history shows the market will usually keep prices lower for consumers as long as government prevents monopolies.

 

By the same token, history shows that when government gets directly involved in pricing, prices go up.


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Posted 01 August 2013 - 08:53 AM

 Should SOMEthing legislatively be done,

Ban retransmission fees.  If you have an FCC license, once the signal leaves your tower, you have no say over what happens to it.


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Posted 01 August 2013 - 09:53 AM

Ban retransmission fees.  If you have an FCC license, once the signal leaves your tower, you have no say over what happens to it.

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Posted 01 August 2013 - 10:00 AM

Fortunately, I get all the Charlotte locals on my TiVo Premiere via OTA, so I'm not really affected. I use my Dish Hoppers and Joeys for all other reception.


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Posted 01 August 2013 - 10:16 AM

Biggest issue is the convenience of a DVR, but with Windows Media Center and other options, that's an easy workaround.

 

I don't have locals anyways, so I really don't care.

I hardly watch my locals also. My roommate just watch local junk. To each their own I guess.


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Posted 01 August 2013 - 10:24 AM

Ban retransmission fees.  If you have an FCC license, once the signal leaves your tower, you have no say over what happens to it.

 

That might be an acceptable "solution" to this whole mess.


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Posted 01 August 2013 - 10:39 AM

That might be an acceptable "solution" to this whole mess.

You receiving the signal OTA for free is much different than a company picking up the signal for free and selling it to you for a profit.


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