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#1 OFFLINE   mskreis

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Posted 05 August 2013 - 10:52 AM

I would like to upgrade to a genie and have the current system:

 

Slimline dish with 4 RG6 cables connected to:

HR 24-500 in theater

HR 20-100 in family room

Whole home via Ethernet.

 

I plan on moving the HR24 to the family room and using the genie in the theater.

 

I plan on purchasing an HR44 from a 3rd party to ensure I do not receive an HR34.

 

My questions are the following:

 

1.  Do I need any other equipment?

2.  If I want to continue using whole-home but not via Ethernet what do I need?

 

Am I missing anything?

 

Thanks,

 

Mark



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#2 OFFLINE   dpeters11

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Posted 05 August 2013 - 11:26 AM

Do you have Swm? You also need a deca, splitter and band stop filter for the hr20. Or are you getting rid of that one?

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Posted 05 August 2013 - 12:09 PM

I would like to upgrade to a genie and have the current system:

 

Slimline dish with 4 RG6 cables connected to:

HR 24-500 in theater

HR 20-100 in family room

Whole home via Ethernet.

 

I plan on moving the HR24 to the family room and using the genie in the theater.

 

I plan on purchasing an HR44 from a 3rd party to ensure I do not receive an HR34.

 

My questions are the following:

 

1.  Do I need any other equipment?

2.  If I want to continue using whole-home but not via Ethernet what do I need?

 

Am I missing anything?

 

Thanks,

 

Mark

 

 

It looks like you have a legacy setup and have 2 coax cables going to each DVR, correct? If so, you need to upgrade to a SWM-LNB. You would then run one line down to a SWM splitter and run one cable to the Genie and one cable to the HR24. As you currently have Ethernet in the theater, you can just plug that Ethernet cable into the Genie and that would give you Internet access to both of your receivers. You would not connect Ethernet to the HR24 in the family room (as it would have access to the Internet via the Genie's connection).

 

What you can do is call DirecTV and tell them that you have a Genie to install and will be deactivating a DVR. They should be able to perform the upgrade for you. It's possible that they might do it for free, but most likely it will be a $49 tech visit fee, although it could be higher. See what you can work out with them. If the install fee is too high, you can always do it yourself. As mentioned, the parts you need will be a SWM-LNB, a Power Inserter to power the LNB, and a 2-way splitter (the PI can be placed in-line between the splitter and one of your receivers).

 

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HR34-700 / Panasonic TC-P50G25 HDTV / HDMI / Networked - DECA / Family Room
HR44-700 / Samsung HCM5525W HDTV / Component / Networked - DECA / Bedroom

HR24-100 / Samsung HCM5525W HDTV / Component / Networked - DECA / Bedroom


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Posted 05 August 2013 - 03:50 PM

If so, you need to upgrade to a SWM-LNB.

As there will be a total of nine (2+2+5) tuners, an external SWiM switch (SWM16) will be required.


EDIT: Since the TS didn't specify whether they were adding the Genie or replacing the HR21, I suppose this may not be the way it goes down. If the Genie replaces the HR21 a SWMLine LNB is indeed sufficient. In either case, DIRECTV should bring whatever is necessary if you use them to perform the change.

Edited by harsh, 05 August 2013 - 03:56 PM.

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Posted 05 August 2013 - 03:52 PM

2.  If I want to continue using whole-home but not via Ethernet what do I need?

If the HR21 is going away, only a green label splitter. If it is staying, then you'll need a DECA for the HR21.

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Posted 05 August 2013 - 06:03 PM

As there will be a total of nine (2+2+5) tuners, an external SWiM switch (SWM16) will be required.


EDIT: Since the TS didn't specify whether they were adding the Genie or replacing the HR21, I suppose this may not be the way it goes down. If the Genie replaces the HR21 a SWMLine LNB is indeed sufficient. In either case, DIRECTV should bring whatever is necessary if you use them to perform the change.


Well, since the OP stated that the HR24 was going to the Family Room and the Genie was going to the Theater, I figured that the HR20 was being replaced, which would leave 7 tuners. But yes, if the HR20 is staying around, the OP would need to use a SWM16.


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SlimLine-3 Dish w/ SWM16 (HD Service / WHDVR) / Full Setup
HR34-700 / Panasonic TC-P50G25 HDTV / HDMI / Networked - DECA / Family Room
HR44-700 / Samsung HCM5525W HDTV / Component / Networked - DECA / Bedroom

HR24-100 / Samsung HCM5525W HDTV / Component / Networked - DECA / Bedroom


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Posted 06 August 2013 - 09:54 AM

It looks like you have a legacy setup and have 2 coax cables going to each DVR, correct? If so, you need to upgrade to a SWM-LNB. You would then run one line down to a SWM splitter and run one cable to the Genie and one cable to the HR24. As you currently have Ethernet in the theater, you can just plug that Ethernet cable into the Genie and that would give you Internet access to both of your receivers. You would not connect Ethernet to the HR24 in the family room (as it would have access to the Internet via the Genie's connection).

What you can do is call DirecTV and tell them that you have a Genie to install and will be deactivating a DVR. They should be able to perform the upgrade for you. It's possible that they might do it for free, but most likely it will be a $49 tech visit fee, although it could be higher. See what you can work out with them. If the install fee is too high, you can always do it yourself. As mentioned, the parts you need will be a SWM-LNB, a Power Inserter to power the LNB, and a 2-way splitter (the PI can be placed in-line between the splitter and one of your receivers).

- Merg


Thanks for the help. Yes, I'm getting rid of the HR 20.

If I do it myself do I simply remove the current LNB and replace it with the SWM-LNB? Is any dish realignment needed?

Mark

Edited by mskreis, 06 August 2013 - 09:55 AM.


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Posted 06 August 2013 - 09:56 AM

If I do it myself do I simply remove the current LNB and replace it with the SWM-LNB? Is any dish realignment needed?

Mark


Depending on how well aligned your dish is now, you won't need a realignment.


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HR34-700 / Panasonic TC-P50G25 HDTV / HDMI / Networked - DECA / Family Room
HR44-700 / Samsung HCM5525W HDTV / Component / Networked - DECA / Bedroom

HR24-100 / Samsung HCM5525W HDTV / Component / Networked - DECA / Bedroom


#9 OFFLINE   mskreis

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 10:04 AM

Depending on how well aligned your dish is now, you won't need a realignment.


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Is this the LNB I need?

http://www.solidsign...-sws-8-splitter




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Posted 06 August 2013 - 11:00 AM

Is this the LNB I need?

http://www.solidsign...-sws-8-splitter


You could probably use this one if you don't subscribe to any international programming.

http://www.solidsign...-sws-8-splitter

Check your current dish to see if you have a LNB-3 or LNB-5 and get the appropriate SWM upgrade for that. You will probably also be fine with a four way splitter instead of an eight way splitter.


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SlimLine-3 Dish w/ SWM16 (HD Service / WHDVR) / Full Setup
HR34-700 / Panasonic TC-P50G25 HDTV / HDMI / Networked - DECA / Family Room
HR44-700 / Samsung HCM5525W HDTV / Component / Networked - DECA / Bedroom

HR24-100 / Samsung HCM5525W HDTV / Component / Networked - DECA / Bedroom





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