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HD DVRs, Receivers, and R22 0x0736 - Issues/Discussion


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#21 OFFLINE   Laxguy

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 01:46 PM

My concern is that I had a few years of happily being able to count on pausing, skipping etc., while in PIG... and I'm still pissed this was taken away. :mad: I have no illusions about it coming back, but it's something I literally used every day. Note that I literally mean "literally". :biggrin:

 

It's one more thing on the list of useful functionalities that were removed to make way for bells & whistles.

 

Mind you, I'm intrigued by your comment "there are many ways to avert bad things happening in the PIG." To what are you referring?

 

I sure can't cover all objections to that change, but do recall a couple of folks were incensed, and I mean, on fire! It turns out their big concern was being tipped off on a sports score, or a scene from a show, or porn showing up when a kid entered the room, not being able to stop in time, pause, etc. The very simple workaround was to tune to a PBS station prior to spending time in the PIG. 

 

I found I purposely spent less time in the PIG after the whole discussion. YMMV!


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Posted 13 August 2013 - 02:30 PM

I sure can't cover all objections to that change, but do recall a couple of folks were incensed, and I mean, on fire! It turns out their big concern was being tipped off on a sports score, or a scene from a show, or porn showing up when a kid entered the room, not being able to stop in time, pause, etc. The very simple workaround was to tune to a PBS station prior to spending time in the PIG. 

 

I found I purposely spent less time in the PIG after the whole discussion. YMMV!

I can see that, but my use for trick play while in PIG was watching something buffered or recorded and wanting to skip/slip through commercial breaks (or occasionally backing up to check something that actually required more of my attention) while in the guide, playlist or to-do list... changing to a different station kinda defeats the purpose of PIG! :rolling:



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Posted 13 August 2013 - 03:17 PM

I am in the middle of my second reboot because my external hard drive in not being recognized anymore after the updated software

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 03:20 PM

Yes, 

 

I can see that, but my use for trick play while in PIG was watching something buffered or recorded and wanting to skip/slip through commercial breaks (or occasionally backing up to check something that actually required more of my attention) while in the guide, playlist or to-do list... changing to a different station kinda defeats the purpose of PIG! :rolling:

 

 I hear ya. There's not much of a cure for that one that i know of.... sorry!


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Posted 14 August 2013 - 02:01 PM

I'm just praying the 'stability fixes' eliminate the partial recordings that my HR20-700 has been getting with the last two firmware releases! Any time two programs are scheduled to record at the same time, there's a ~ 50% chance the beginning of both recordings will be delayed by anywhere from 30 to 90 seconds. MOST annoying! :angry:

 

Well, unfortunately 0x736 hasn't fixed the partial recording issues with the HR20. :mad2:

 

Last night it recorded NCIS:LA (CBS local OTA) for 61 minutes (not a guide data issue, as it was the usual 1 hour in the guide) and started recording Perception a minute late, at 10:01 EDT. When it happens, it usually involves one OTA and one 'regular' (satellite) program... but I've seen it happen at least once with two regular programs.

 

Ah well... :(

 

To clarify, it needed the same tuner for the two programs as Face Off was being recorded using the other! That was, of course, after setting a manual timer for Face Off due to the SyFy guide data screw-up being discussed in this thread:

 

http://www.dbstalk.c...ording-problem/



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Posted 15 August 2013 - 10:06 AM

My two HR-20s downloaded 0736 night before last.  Yesterday afternoon I tried using the radar App on one of them and only succeeded in completely locking up the receiver.  The "loading" screen froze and other screens would come up with "loading" still on the screen but would not respond.  Resorted to an RBR to regain control.  Decided not to try the other receiver.


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Posted 16 August 2013 - 05:41 PM

I can now control the PIG while still scrolling through the guide or playlist! Woo hoo! :joy: :dance07:

 

I can't on my R22 which just got the update.  What model do you have?


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Posted 16 August 2013 - 05:42 PM

The HR24 in my bedroom can do this.


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Posted 16 August 2013 - 05:46 PM

The HR24 in my bedroom can do this.


You have to be on very outdated software. Did you ever check the firmware number?

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Posted 16 August 2013 - 05:46 PM

My concern is that I had a few years of happily being able to count on pausing, skipping etc., while in PIG... and I'm still pissed this was taken away. :mad: I have no illusions about it coming back, but it's something I literally used every day. Note that I literally mean "literally". :biggrin:

 

It's one more thing on the list of useful functionalities that were removed to make way for bells & whistles.

 

Mind you, I'm intrigued by your comment "there are many ways to avert bad things happening in the PIG." To what are you referring?

 

I agree 100%.  What were they thinking to remove trickplay while browsing the guide or looking at the playlist?  And even worse, if you are looking at the playlist and you hit "pause" it PLAYS the program highlighted!!  I use this function daily on my R15's and get pissed every time I use my R22 and forget that it's gone.  It was also stupid to remove the dash-dash delete but I guess the hit the red button twice patch to appease irked customers is alright.


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Posted 16 August 2013 - 05:50 PM

You have to be on very outdated software. Did you ever check the firmware number?

 

Version 0x6d8, downloaded 6-12-13. Don't ask me why it hasn't taken anything since then. BTW, I do CEs on other IRDs, usually not this one.


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Posted 17 August 2013 - 12:18 PM

Unfortunately, this firmware version did not resolve the slowdown issues for my HR24-500 related to autorecording discussed in a previous thread.  I used the following:

AALL WHITE SOX EVENTS CCHANS 665 665 & Sports, Baseball

AALL WHITE SOX EVENTS CCHANS 307 & Sports, Baseball

 

At first, responsiveness seemed normal, but gradually over the past couple of weeks it has slowly worsened.  It's nowhere near as bad as before, but I'm commonly yet intermittently,  getting 15-30 second delays with certain functions:

 

Up Arrow (for Quick Tune)

Selecting a Quick Tune channel icon

Menu, then down arrow (blank screen on Search & Browse)

Info, then right arrow

Stop

 

I've deleted the autorecord entries and the delays have stopped, as discovered by LiQiCE.  I must be in a really small minority, as I don't see others reporting the same.  Perhaps the receiver just doesn't like the White Sox who are really pathetic this year.  Maybe it's just trying to help me out by keeping me from watching. :evilgrin:



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Posted 17 August 2013 - 01:54 PM

Trust me. As a lifelong White Sox fan, you really don't want to watch them this year. I gave up months ago.


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Posted 17 August 2013 - 09:51 PM

Cubs don't play we'll either but lots of fans continue to watch. That's how much they love their Cubbies.

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 11:16 PM

That's because Cubs fans are idiots.


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Posted 18 August 2013 - 09:38 AM

Unfortunately, this firmware version did not resolve the slowdown issues for my HR24-500 related to autorecording discussed in a previous thread.  I used the following:

AALL WHITE SOX EVENTS CCHANS 665 665 & Sports, Baseball

AALL WHITE SOX EVENTS CCHANS 307 & Sports, Baseball

 

At first, responsiveness seemed normal, but gradually over the past couple of weeks it has slowly worsened.  It's nowhere near as bad as before, but I'm commonly yet intermittently,  getting 15-30 second delays with certain functions:

 

Up Arrow (for Quick Tune)

Selecting a Quick Tune channel icon

Menu, then down arrow (blank screen on Search & Browse)

Info, then right arrow

Stop

 

I've deleted the autorecord entries and the delays have stopped, as discovered by LiQiCE.  I must be in a really small minority, as I don't see others reporting the same.  Perhaps the receiver just doesn't like the White Sox who are really pathetic this year.  Maybe it's just trying to help me out by keeping me from watching. :evilgrin:

 

kkl,

 

Sorry to hear you're still having problems.  I have an "AALL RANGERS" & Sports & Hockey autorecord running and it is picking up recordings every few days (reruns of old games) and I haven't experienced any slowdowns with 0x0736 for over 2 weeks now, with a fair amount of TV watching.  I wonder what the difference is between your setup and mine.  Maybe I'll try switching to an "AALL RANGERS EVENTS" & Sports & Hockey to see if that causes slowdowns.  I know the "HDTV" keyword was still causing slowdowns for me.


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Posted 18 August 2013 - 08:12 PM

I was recording a program and went to play it while it was recording, all I got was a blank screen. I went to the live show and it was also blank while tuning to any other channel works correctly. After the program finished recording I restarted the receiver(HR20-700) and both the live channel and recording now work. Thoughts and Opinions?



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Posted 19 August 2013 - 08:30 AM

kkl,

 

Sorry to hear you're still having problems.  I have an "AALL RANGERS" & Sports & Hockey autorecord running and it is picking up recordings every few days (reruns of old games) and I haven't experienced any slowdowns with 0x0736 for over 2 weeks now, with a fair amount of TV watching.  I wonder what the difference is between your setup and mine.  Maybe I'll try switching to an "AALL RANGERS EVENTS" & Sports & Hockey to see if that causes slowdowns.  I know the "HDTV" keyword was still causing slowdowns for me.

So, you leave out EVENTS?  I'll give that a try, even though, as you note, the receiver will try to schedule non-live programs.  If you try adding EVENTS, that would help determine if that keyword is a problem.  As I mentioned, the really noticeable delay took a couple of weeks to develop.

 

Edit:  Actually, leaving out EVENTS as a keyword resulted in a lot of pre-game and post-game shows which I don't get (MLBEI).  So, I'll try this:

AALL WHITE SOX CCHANS 665 666 & Show Types, Events

AALL WHITE SOX CCHANS 307 & Sports, Baseball


Edited by kkl, 19 August 2013 - 10:16 AM.


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Posted 19 August 2013 - 10:47 AM

Hello, I am recently new to the forum and have a quick question, I see that there is a new national release for my h21-100. Yesterday, I tried to force the box to update, it downloaded software but when I went into the menu to see the version it was the same that I had previously. Can anyone help me with getting the latest firmware? Thank you and your assistance is greatly appreciated.


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Posted 19 August 2013 - 10:52 AM

vpr632

It is strongly suggested that you wait until DTV wants you to have it and NOT to force the software downloads. It can knock out your receiver. Yep, it is rare, but it has happened in the past.


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