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Relationship of Genie to Genie Client


Best Answer texasbrit , 21 August 2013 - 05:48 AM

The settings on the Genie and client are independent of each other. So you can have the Genie at 480i and the clients at 1080i.

 

I am not surprised SD looks terrible on an old 53in TV.

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#21 OFFLINE   Beerstalker

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Posted 22 August 2013 - 08:27 AM

Um, the $10k 480p Philips plasma i hung in my store many many years ago would disagree with ya a bit. :). They actually all started out at that res, then when they finally could do Hi Definition ones the Ed ones dropped big time in price.


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That was probably when an HD plasma TV ran $15-20k.  I remember when they first came out, our Circuit City and Best Buy stores refused to carry them in the store or display them because they were so expensive and they were afraid they would get broken.  They were special order only.  There was one local furniture/electronics store that had one on display and I was not impressed with it at all, my HD ready CRT looked much better.


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Posted 22 August 2013 - 08:44 AM

I remember when I installed the first  HD TV in the NY Best Buy stores.  It was a 50" Phillips/Magnavoz plasma with a price tag of $14,999. insane!!!


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Posted 22 August 2013 - 09:39 AM

Insane?? I thought that was Crazy Eddie's tag?!! :) 

Are they still around? 


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Posted 22 August 2013 - 09:57 AM

Nope, now the TVs with that price tag or higher are the 4K TVs, which in 3 years will be making fun because they will be around the same prices as an "smart" LED today


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Posted 25 August 2013 - 05:39 PM

That was probably when an HD plasma TV ran $15-20k. I remember when they first came out, our Circuit City and Best Buy stores refused to carry them in the store or display them because they were so expensive and they were afraid they would get broken. They were special order only. There was one local furniture/electronics store that had one on display and I was not impressed with it at all, my HD ready CRT looked much better.

worked for good guys if you know who that was and this was before you really had HDTV flat panels. ;)

Only some of our stores displayed the expensive ones but we did in the ones it made sense too. Even the 20k ones when they came out.


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Posted 25 August 2013 - 06:16 PM

OK, since this thread is still going on.

My friend just left my house and she swears that the text in the Guide on her husbands 40" Sony LED TV is smaller than on my 37" Vizio LCD.

They are running a Genie HR44 and I am running an HR24.

 

Can anyone tell me if their is a difference in the size of the Font from one machine / software  to the other ?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

PS: For now she is going to Turn on the old TV and let it warm up for 30 minutes and then press the Flash Focus and let it do it's thing and see if that fixes her blurry text.

If that does not fix it we will try the component cables on it to see what it does on her old TV.


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Posted 25 August 2013 - 07:06 PM

OK, since this thread is still going on.

My friend just left my house and she swears that the text in the Guide on her husbands 40" Sony LED TV is smaller than on my 37" Vizio LCD.

They are running a Genie HR44 and I am running an HR24.

 

Can anyone tell me if their is a difference in the size of the Font from one machine / software  to the other ?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

PS: For now she is going to Turn on the old TV and let it warm up for 30 minutes and then press the Flash Focus and let it do it's thing and see if that fixes her blurry text.

If that does not fix it we will try the component cables on it to see what it does on her old TV.

No, the fonts should be the same size;

 

Though she could have been watching an SD channel where the size of the guide was be reduced down to 4:3 causing the smaller looking fonts. 


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Posted 25 August 2013 - 07:14 PM

No, the fonts should be the same size;

 

Though she could have been watching an SD channel where the size of the guide was be reduced down to 4:3 causing the smaller looking fonts. 

On my HR24 the font sizes do not change with the different resolutions.

 

I did not think they has made the text smaller or there would have been an outcry about it on the forum.

 

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Posted 25 August 2013 - 09:28 PM

On my HR24 the font sizes do not change with the different resolutions.

 

I did not think they has made the text smaller or there would have been an outcry about it on the forum.

 

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That wasn't what I meant;

 

When viewing an SD channel the actual size of the guide, channel banner, menu, etc, in the horizontal dimension on an HDTV can shrink down from 16:9 to 4:3 along with the picture causing the graphics and text to become both smaller and squeezed as well.

 

Now there are display settings in the receiver that can be used to prevent this from happening (In fact i use them myself), but your friends may not be aware of them.

 

i'm not saying this is what definitely happened to cause your friend to claim the text were smaller on her husband's HDTV, but could have.   


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Posted 25 August 2013 - 10:22 PM

OK, since this thread is still going on.
My friend just left my house and she swears that the text in the Guide on her husbands 40" Sony LED TV is smaller than on my 37" Vizio LCD.
They are running a Genie HR44 and I am running an HR24.

Can anyone tell me if their is a difference in the size of the Font from one machine / software to the other ?

Thanks in advance.

PS: For now she is going to Turn on the old TV and let it warm up for 30 minutes and then press the Flash Focus and let it do it's thing and see if that fixes her blurry text.
If that does not fix it we will try the component cables on it to see what it does on her old TV.


Component compared to composite will be a large difference even if it is only 480i. There is no reason to be using composite when a component connection is possible.


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Posted 26 August 2013 - 06:50 AM

My friend had to work Sunday and very late so we did not have much time to look and talk about her TV.

What I had her do first was to :  As soon as she got home to turn on the old TV so it could warm up. She cooked supper and they ate and then she pushed the "Flash Focus" button on the front of the TV. She said she thinks that they had never pushed that button before because they did not know what it was for.

She says it is a lot better and she can read the guide from her couch and does not have to get up and walk to within 3 or 4 feet to read it.

Yeah.

 

I will get her a set of component cables today and have her come by here to pick them up. I showed her the picture of the back of her TV and showed her where to plug them and the button to press to change the Input. When she gets those plugged in I will step her through how to view the HD channels in the Letterbox format on her TV. From my calculations she should have the equivalent size of a 46" HD TV  on her 53" SD TV.

It will probably be this weekend before she will connect them.


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Posted 26 August 2013 - 08:33 AM

Oh, my. I didn't realize her set was SD. No wonder it's hard to read, esp. out of focus. Well done, jimmie!


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Posted 26 August 2013 - 09:45 AM

Oh, my. I didn't realize her set was SD. No wonder it's hard to read, esp. out of focus. Well done, jimmie!

Thanks.

I just got back from the store and I picked her up a set of component cables. I think when she gets these hooked up she will be happy.

They do make a noticeable difference on my 20" CRT vs the yellow wire for video.


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Posted 26 August 2013 - 03:08 PM

Any chance she can afford a couple of hundred for a small HD set? It'd be worth it! (well, for many)


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Posted 26 August 2013 - 03:21 PM

32" sets are going for $99. . . probably the power savings would pay for it in a year.



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Posted 26 August 2013 - 03:21 PM

Any chance she can afford a couple of hundred for a small HD set? It'd be worth it! (well, for many)

She has measured the space and she is saving for a new 55" when she gets enough saved.

It is in a large room and the TV is 14 feet from the couch she sits on.


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Posted 26 August 2013 - 03:32 PM

Well, that's good! Too far away unless the eyesight is young. Me, I'd rather have a 32" set now than bigger later. Screen real estate is often over emphasized, but to each their own.


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Posted 08 September 2013 - 10:55 AM

My friend picked up the component cables yesterday. This morning she plugged them in without taking out the yellow cable. the DTV box switched to 480p and her TV only does 480i. Needless to say the picture was a mess and she now had no sound.

I went to her house. By the time I got there she had removed all the cables and thought she plugged it back in like it was. She hadn't.

I had to search for what went where because she had an AVR and  a VCR also that were there and a pair of external speakers.

When I got it hooked up using the component cables there was no sound. If I turned on the speakers in the TV there was sound.

I decided to hook it back up like it was. The instant I pulled the red cable from the component set of red, blue and green the external speakers started to work. Very strange. I went into her TV menu and settings and changed everything in it that could be changed and no sound except from the TV speakers.

The picture was much better , according to her, but she wanted her external speakers to work.

At this point I gave up and hooked it back up using the composite cables and then adjusted her picture settings.

It does look better but it is still poo poo for a picture. She said they bought it in 2000.

 

I adjusted her husbands HD TV also. Yep, it was set to torch mode. As soon as I switched it to Standard mode he said he could read the text in the Guide.


Edited by jimmie57, 08 September 2013 - 10:56 AM.

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 12:49 PM

Wonder if it was the wrong red cable and that it was video into audio or something.


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Posted 09 September 2013 - 01:20 PM

Wonder if it was the wrong red cable and that it was video into audio or something.


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The instant I pulled the red from the component set of connections the picture went out and the sound came on.

When I pulled the red one from the Audio connector the sound went out.

 

She called me last night at about 9 pm and told me that her TV made a pop and all it does now is the little red light that flashes when you first turn it on flashes and never stops.

Earlier in the day she said the AC was making a popping noise and quit working. It is right outside of the room where the TV is located.

I told her that the AC man could check the electricity but it sounded like her AC to her house was too high and causing problems.

I have not heard from her today.


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