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#51 OFFLINE   BusterAvis

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Posted 17 August 2014 - 03:02 PM

They don't "need" the Longhorn Network, and would probably be better off in the long run if they were able to avoid taking it. If it is successful it will just encourage a bunch of schools to start up their own single team network, partner with ESPN, and force it on providers during Disney renewal negotiations.

 

You're thinking of this in a broad sense, not in a micro sense.

The reason why Texas has a network is because ESPN is paying them 300 million dollars over a 20 year span ($15 million per year).

ESPN is not going to pay any other university anywhere near that kind of money, with the exception of Notre Dame.

The other big universities such as Ohio State, Michigan, Florida, Alabama, USC, Stanford, etc. are already in binding agreements with their conference networks.

And yes, Stanford is a big program.  They have of the biggest athletic department budgets in the country (Top 5).  

They have as many sports teams to fund as any other university in the country.  Just look at their athletics site, and you'll see they have almost 40 men's and women's sports to fund.

 

Therefore, Notre Dame may be the only university within the next 10-20 years that can start a network and partner with ESPN.

ESPN is not going to pay Oklahoma 300 million, or even 100 million.  Oklahoma is not Texas in terms of fan demand and TV ratings, etc.

Nebraska even brings in more football revenue per year than Oklahoma does.  Look it up if need be.  Nebraska is always in the Top 7, and usually in the Top 5 in that category nationally.

 

As a result, DirecTV shouldn't worry about schools starting up networks.  It costs a ton of money to start up a network, and a lot of risk.  

ESPN isn't sharing that risk, unless the reward could be high (as they assumed with Texas).

It's the conference networks that DirecTV needs to worry about, not Longhorn Network and their 35 cents per subscriber.

In fact, DirecTV and ESPN have already come to a verbal agreement within the package deal for Longhorn Network, that was one of the first ones done as it is one of the cheapest things in the entire package.

It's the more expensive content from Disney/ESPN that DirecTV is taking more time on in terms of getting the right deal.


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Posted 17 August 2014 - 07:20 PM

If Ohio State wanted to start a team network and the B1G senses there's money to be made by doing this, they could probably work things out with the conference and BTN/Fox. They could allow all schools in the conference to start their own network, and allow them to have whatever the crappiest game of the season on the channel like Longhorn does (OSU vs Akron or Kent State or whoever) They'd probably require some sort of partial revenue sharing between the teams, to avoid making the gap between OSU and Purdue grow any wider, but why wouldn't OSU do this, even if they had to do full revenue sharing it is still free money and more exposure for the school.

 

Whether ESPN pays OSU, Michigan and PSU $300 million or $100 million or whatever is irrelevant. If those schools can sign a deal with ESPN contingent on ESPN forcing national coverage at renewal time similar to Longhorn Network, why not? Heck, even smaller schools could get into the act, by offering ESPN half ownership for free, in exchange for doing all the production work and guaranteeing they'll force coverage. It would be free money in ESPN's pocket, so why not?

 

Obviously in the B1G's case it would make a lot more sense (and be more likely) to partner with Fox instead of ESPN, but Fox wouldn't have quite so easy a time forcing it on people since FS1 is definitely no ESPN. On the other hand, they have FNC, and the threat of taking that away would get O'Reilly involved calling the provider who didn't cave to Fox pinheads, and getting all his fans in an uproar. :)


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Posted 17 August 2014 - 09:37 PM


And yes, Stanford is a big program.  They have of the biggest athletic department budgets in the country (Top 5).  

 

 

Not just a big program.  The most successful athletic program, ever.

 

Over the last 20 years, the Cardinal has won the Directors' Cup (awarded to most successful athletic program) 19 times.

 

Notre Dame?  It's lost its competitive advantage (TV exposure before the cable era). 


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Posted 17 August 2014 - 10:06 PM

I'm hoping that ESPN works out a deal so come next MLS season the out of market games can still be available on DirecTV via overflow channels much like the NBC EPL ones. Especially since Direct Kick is done for after this current season.



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Posted 17 August 2014 - 10:34 PM

Directv is going after networks with big bucks and exposure,  and PAC-12 is not in that list,  Why you think everytime there's a big baseball game or football game on ESPN,  they've mentioned Directv,  all about exposure and marketing.  SEC is another way for more,  But that's not a bad thing at all,  that's smart on both ESPN and Directv,  and PAC-12 having Dish's name on stadiums,  Is why Directv is not dealing with them,  plain and simple,  so I doubt is about price.


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Posted 18 August 2014 - 06:46 AM

I don't think Gameplan is in HD,  not sure about Full Court but is probably not in HD either.

my cable company sent out an email last week that game plan and full court are now included in the monthly sports pass. no more subscriptions. sports pass is ten dollars a month so there is at least a 50 percent savings.



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Posted 18 August 2014 - 08:34 AM

If Ohio State wanted to start a team network and the B1G senses there's money to be made by doing this, they could probably work things out with the conference and BTN/Fox. They could allow all schools in the conference to start their own network, and allow them to have whatever the crappiest game of the season on the channel like Longhorn does (OSU vs Akron or Kent State or whoever) They'd probably require some sort of partial revenue sharing between the teams, to avoid making the gap between OSU and Purdue grow any wider, but why wouldn't OSU do this, even if they had to do full revenue sharing it is still free money and more exposure for the school.
 
Whether ESPN pays OSU, Michigan and PSU $300 million or $100 million or whatever is irrelevant. If those schools can sign a deal with ESPN contingent on ESPN forcing national coverage at renewal time similar to Longhorn Network, why not? Heck, even smaller schools could get into the act, by offering ESPN half ownership for free, in exchange for doing all the production work and guaranteeing they'll force coverage. It would be free money in ESPN's pocket, so why not?
 
Obviously in the B1G's case it would make a lot more sense (and be more likely) to partner with Fox instead of ESPN, but Fox wouldn't have quite so easy a time forcing it on people since FS1 is definitely no ESPN. On the other hand, they have FNC, and the threat of taking that away would get O'Reilly involved calling the provider who didn't cave to Fox pinheads, and getting all his fans in an uproar. :)


That is not going to happen. That is not in the Big Ten's nature. They share everything more than any other conference. They didn't even give in a teeny tiny bit to try to land Notre dame.

As for the others, the SEC thrives on the SEC brand. The conference has taken off since it became a single unit. The acc owns, as a conference, all media national rights in perpetuity of all the schools, even if one leaves, due to its new contract.

I think we are past the single school channel. Even if they get some cheap coverage, LHN is seen as a failure financially and strategically.
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Posted 18 August 2014 - 08:44 AM

If Ohio State wanted to start a team network and the B1G senses there's money to be made by doing this, they could probably work things out with the conference and BTN/Fox. They could allow all schools in the conference to start their own network, and allow them to have whatever the crappiest game of the season on the channel like Longhorn does (OSU vs Akron or Kent State or whoever) They'd probably require some sort of partial revenue sharing between the teams, to avoid making the gap between OSU and Purdue grow any wider, but why wouldn't OSU do this, even if they had to do full revenue sharing it is still free money and more exposure for the school.

 

Whether ESPN pays OSU, Michigan and PSU $300 million or $100 million or whatever is irrelevant. If those schools can sign a deal with ESPN contingent on ESPN forcing national coverage at renewal time similar to Longhorn Network, why not? Heck, even smaller schools could get into the act, by offering ESPN half ownership for free, in exchange for doing all the production work and guaranteeing they'll force coverage. It would be free money in ESPN's pocket, so why not?

 

Obviously in the B1G's case it would make a lot more sense (and be more likely) to partner with Fox instead of ESPN, but Fox wouldn't have quite so easy a time forcing it on people since FS1 is definitely no ESPN. On the other hand, they have FNC, and the threat of taking that away would get O'Reilly involved calling the provider who didn't cave to Fox pinheads, and getting all his fans in an uproar. :)

Fox has broadcast (with NFL and MLB games), FX. FXX. FXM, FS1 and FS2 as well as others to push around. I think losing the FX channels can be bigger then losing the disney channles.


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Posted 18 August 2014 - 10:59 AM

Fox has broadcast (with NFL and MLB games), FX. FXX. FXM, FS1 and FS2 as well as others to push around. I think losing the FX channels can be bigger then losing the disney channles.

Perhaps in your locale. But fortunately for me, I don't see much of Fox Sports, as CSN (Comcast Sports Net) does a good job and has wide coverage in the Bay Area, and Disney/ESPN has pretty much the rest of it.  BTW, I loathe Fox Sports, though their camera personnel have gotten better. 


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Posted 18 August 2014 - 11:17 AM

Perhaps in your locale. But fortunately for me, I don't see much of Fox Sports, as CSN (Comcast Sports Net) does a good job and has wide coverage in the Bay Area, and Disney/ESPN has pretty much the rest of it.  BTW, I loathe Fox Sports, though their camera personnel have gotten better. 

Fox OTA has big rights also some markets have local FSN feeds.


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Posted 20 August 2014 - 08:39 PM

Apple TV has added SEC Network and Longhorn Network.  We really need DirecTV to come through and provide access to WatchESPN!



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Posted 20 August 2014 - 11:57 PM

Apple TV has added SEC Network and Longhorn Network.  

 

According to a thread at the Roku Forums, the WatchESPN app on the Roku is supposed to get the update later today with the same additions as the Apple TV...

 

EDIT: The WatchESPN app on Roku has now been updated with SEC Network, SEC Network + & Longhorn Network


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Posted 21 August 2014 - 01:29 PM

John Ourand (Sports Business Journal) tweeted today that talks between DirecTV and Disney are progressing but does not expect movement until December.

 

He also tweeted that fios has come to an agreement on the SEC Channel.


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Posted 21 August 2014 - 04:36 PM

John Ourand (Sports Business Journal) tweeted today that talks between DirecTV and Disney are progressing but does not expect movement until December.

 

He also tweeted that fios has come to an agreement on the SEC Channel.

 

Interesting.  He must have deleted the tweet.  I wonder why?

Personally, I don't even see it taking that long for them to get the entire deal done with Disney/ESPN.



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Posted 21 August 2014 - 05:18 PM

Interesting. He must have deleted the tweet. I wonder why?
Personally, I don't even see it taking that long for them to get the entire deal done with Disney/ESPN.


It is still there. It was an answer to a question so directv is not mentioned in the tweet itself.
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Posted 21 August 2014 - 08:07 PM

John Ourand (Sports Business Journal) tweeted today that talks between DirecTV and Disney are progressing but does not expect movement until December.

He also tweeted that fios has come to an agreement on the SEC Channel.

That's not surprising, since the previous old contract won't expire by then.

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Posted 21 August 2014 - 09:56 PM

Exactly. Directv isn't going to offer to pay more for channels earlier than it has to.. I expect the new year will bring watch ESPN and so forth...


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Posted 21 August 2014 - 11:07 PM

Now that Directv has SEC Network, there isn't any urgency to get the new deal done until the existing one expires.


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Posted 22 August 2014 - 09:14 PM

I was hoping that the fact that Dtv's  main competitor has the ESPN package would give it the incentive to reach a deal before the current contract expires.  Football season is the main time that I will miss these features.


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Posted 22 August 2014 - 09:32 PM

I was hoping that the fact that Dtv's  main competitor has the ESPN package would give it the incentive to reach a deal before the current contract expires.  Football season is the main time that I will miss these features.


Deals are for years a couple months of a relatively small feature (versus the massive deal that Disney/ESPN is) is not going to drive the deal.
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Posted 27 August 2014 - 02:07 PM

it will be in the new contract that is being discussed now

Do we know what date any new deal might be effective?   Also, I would assume any deal would include the Watch ABC app as well ?


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Posted 27 August 2014 - 03:18 PM

I really wish they would have got this deal done prior to college football starting. It would come in really handy this weekend.

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Posted 27 August 2014 - 05:31 PM

DirecTV does not give a shedt about their college football loving customers.


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Posted 27 August 2014 - 05:58 PM

Others are starting to notice.  I've seen more than one twitter comment on my feed that Directv is one of the last holdouts.


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Posted 27 August 2014 - 06:43 PM

Others are starting to notice.  I've seen more than one twitter comment on my feed that Directv is one of the last holdouts.

Again, ESPN will only include Watch ESPN via new contract negotiation.  DIRECTV is NOT a holdout.  It's deal with ESPN was on a different cycle than ESPN's deal with Dish. Why is this so hard to comprehend?


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