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Directv stopped supporting THR22 and no replacement spares?


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#1 OFFLINE   BAMCAT

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Posted 01 September 2013 - 10:36 PM

On the TiVo Community Forum There is a posting that D* isn't supporting the THR22 anymore and they don't has spares to replace failed units.

That makes the THR22  a very short lived platform.

I know that this is wishfull thinking, but wouldn't it be nice if they were migrateing the TiVo software to a later box?....not!

The good thing about the THR22 is that if the hard drive fails, it is a no brainer to install a new drive and get it back up and running, don't have to load an opperating system of configure the drive at all, the box does all the work.

Now, if someone could hack the drive so it could be copyed to a larger drive and maintain the recordings, one could make a backup drive so you wouldn't loose your recordings.

When the HR10-250 came out, Hackers were quick to jump on it and devlope software to do just that.

I find it interesting that the hacking community never tried to develop any software to copy and expand the drive. Too bad.


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Posted 01 September 2013 - 11:15 PM

I recall it has been posted here - I did ask him technical questions about partitioning ... copy with expanding ..



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Posted 02 September 2013 - 07:16 AM

I just saw a DTV add yesterday boasting that DTV offers a TIVO based system and DISH doesn't.



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Posted 02 September 2013 - 09:57 AM

Still showing as available for order on my account;

 

For $199.00.

 

Ah ... no thank you ... 


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Posted 02 September 2013 - 12:08 PM

I just saw a DTV add yesterday boasting that DTV offers a TIVO based system and DISH doesn't.

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Posted 02 September 2013 - 02:25 PM

Sorry, don't by that they have stopped selling them just yet. I thought their contract is through 2017. Maybe one of the installers will let us know if they have some own their warehouses still.

And as for replacing and adding bigger hard drives, all the hr2/4xs do that just fine.

One of the big reasons DIRECTV kicked TiVo to the curb the first time was their complete lack of security for things recorded onto their system.

And at this point,I don't think TiVo has the brain power to ask for and create a hr44 based TiVo product for DIRECTV.


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Posted 02 September 2013 - 03:05 PM

Never heard if the THR22 easy to pull events from its drive ...



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Posted 02 September 2013 - 08:57 PM

Maybe one of the installers will let us know if they have some own their warehouses still.

Nope, we still have the same 100+ that we have had for the last year.


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Posted 02 September 2013 - 10:26 PM

And there it is, wrong info from whoever the op talked to...



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Posted 03 September 2013 - 07:46 AM

I've confirmed that DIRECTV is still offering the THR22. Just plain paranoia, that's all.


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Posted 03 September 2013 - 08:32 AM

Glad of that.

Sounds like one CSR was really trying to push D* DVR's

Solid Signal still has them available also.


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Posted 03 September 2013 - 08:54 AM

I've confirmed that DIRECTV is still offering the THR22. Just plain paranoia, that's all.

Those Tivo users are a paranoid bunch arent they?   :rotfl:



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Posted 03 September 2013 - 01:50 PM

Glad of that.

Sounds like one CSR was really trying to push D* DVR's

Solid Signal still has them available also.

 

To be honest, based on the level of software development the THR22 has had, I probably would too. It'd be a much different story if it was closer to a Tivo Premiere or Roamio. Though I wouldn't use this particular tactic.


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Posted 11 September 2013 - 05:17 PM

Got a message on the DVR from D* stating "TiVo is back!!"

There they go again, trying to draw in customers with the TiVo name, and then I bet that they will push their DVR with the same line about TiVo not working with the whole home system.

Bait and switch!

Why don't they just update the TiVo software so TiVo will work with the whole home system?



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Posted 11 September 2013 - 05:29 PM

Got a message on the DVR from D* stating "TiVo is back!!"

There they go again, trying to draw in customers with the TiVo name, and then I bet that they will push their DVR with the same line about TiVo not working with the whole home system.

Bait and switch!

Why don't they just update the TiVo software so TiVo will work with the whole home system?

I don't think you know what bait and switch is.


If you stop responding to them or put them on ignore, then eventually they'll go away.

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Posted 11 September 2013 - 07:41 PM

Tivo probably isn't really interested in making it whole home compatible.



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Posted 11 September 2013 - 11:12 PM

Writing the recording to the drive is different software and format. No way it will ever work.

We still have Tivo's in stock.
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Posted 12 September 2013 - 11:27 AM

Writing the recording to the drive is different software and format. No way it will ever work.

We still have Tivo's in stock.

What you mean by that ? Could you provide real details to ppl who're writing programs for living ?



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Posted 12 September 2013 - 11:31 AM

"We still have TiVo's in stock"?

 

Who do you represent?



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Posted 12 September 2013 - 11:51 AM

"We still have TiVo's in stock"?

Who do you represent?


Installers I'm sure as several have said they still have plenty including most the ones they ever got sent in the first place.


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Posted 12 September 2013 - 12:15 PM

Installers I'm sure as several have said they still have plenty including most the ones they ever got sent in the first place.


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Posted 16 December 2013 - 08:44 PM

Sorry, don't by that they have stopped selling them just yet. I thought their contract is through 2017. Maybe one of the installers will let us know if they have some own their warehouses still.

And as for replacing and adding bigger hard drives, all the hr2/4xs do that just fine.

One of the big reasons DIRECTV kicked TiVo to the curb the first time was their complete lack of security for things recorded onto their system.

And at this point,I don't think TiVo has the brain power to ask for and create a hr44 based TiVo product for DIRECTV.


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Nice to apples to oranges comparison.  Yes, Series 1 and series 2 DirecTV tivo's were hackable.  Directv based DVR's were non-existant so of coarse they were not hackable.

 

Now compare the Tivo Series 3, 4, and now Roamio (which by the way blows Genie out of the water) to the DirecTV DVR's and security is equivalent.  Blaming Tivo for early generation HW security and celebrating DIrecTV by using the security lessons learned by TiVo and broadcom really is joke.  DirecTV sat on thier butts, let Tivo put the DVR on the map, pulled Tivo, and has never caught back up since.

 

I just moved all my season passes online from my XL4 to my new Roamio in 5 minutes.  How is that working on Genie?  Netflix, Hulu, Amazon, Youtube, MLB.tv, Spotify, Pandora, Rhapsody, Live365, photos, apps, etc, etc...  Yes, yes, you don't want/need those features but fact is TiVo does it.  DirecTV doesn't.

 

Saying Tivo doesn't have the brains is a farce as well.  What they don't have is the money DirecTV does.  For years people say TiVO is going under but they never do.  Between patents, litigation, agreements with D* for providing 0 service, and then on top of that dropping out the Roamio shows TiVo has more brains in it's little finger then DirecTV will ever have.

 

I know this is a pro-DirecTV forum, but some of the bs you guys post is just humorous.  Genie is a very good DVR.  I don't denie that.  But Roamio/TiVo still lead the way no matter how hard DirecTV and their blinded followers continue to compare a THR22 with 5+ year old SW and HW to Genie and ignore what Tivo as done without DirecTV with the Series 4 and now Roamio.

 

Unfortunately, these 2 companies will never play nice again, so we never will really see what TiVo could do in the satellite bussiness again,



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Posted 17 December 2013 - 02:21 PM

I still have my Tivo THR22, but am handing over to my 78 year old dad who has had a HDVR2 (w/750gig drive) for 8 years now, who just tried a HR22 and does not like it.  He does not need whole home, etc. so it is a lateral move and simple, but now he will get all the HD channels on his TV using the same interface.

 

I am loyal to both companies.... I have many family members that signed up with DirecTV because of the TiVo DVR's and helped make DirecTV to what it is today.   There was quite a lot of heckling on this site towards TiVo in the delays/development of the THR22, saying how stupid TiVo and their engineers were for not being able to get their software implemented and getting rid of bugs on DirecTV hardware, which contributed to the delays.

 

I can say this....I have more constant freezing/pixellating/whole home DVR issues for many months now with my Genie that I never had with my THR22 other previous DirecTiVo model.  Once I physically unplug the power from my Genie, all the other 10 HD-DVR's work nicely and play whole home very well.  I am a little surprised it is taking so long to get this fixed, and my wife has beyond had it with the Genie.  She still likes using the HDTiVo once in a while, located in the other room.


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Posted 17 December 2013 - 02:35 PM

I still have my Tivo THR22, but am handing over to my 78 year old dad who has had a HDVR2 (w/750gig drive) for 8 years now, who just tried a HR22 and does not like it.  He does not need whole home, etc. so it is a lateral move and simple, but now he will get all the HD channels on his TV using the same interface.

 

 

Hang on here, is your Dad on your account and at your location? If not, you will not be able to transfer your THR22 to him, unless you actually own it, and get a new Access Card.



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Posted 17 December 2013 - 04:13 PM

It's confirmed owned (cannot discuss why) thus will be deactivated off my account and activated on his.




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