First off, thank you everyone for your enthusiastic support and ideas! Let me try and address your comments one at a time.
To be clear, there's no ethernet direct into the HR24 (from the CCK or anything.)?
Is the other router completely off line? (The 10.10's I have seen were only when I had two routers in play)
Right, the ethernet port on the rear of the HR24 is open/empty. Not sure what a CCK is?
The other (old) router is in the trash. When I reset my router tonight, it again used the 10.X IP address range for LAN DHCP address assignments and gave some warning like "To avoid address conflicts with your ISP, the router will use 10.0.0.X addresses instead." So the router has consistently done this.
You can try a network reboot. disconnect the DECA from the router, power down your computers turn wifi off on phones/tablets, unplug the router and modem.
Then boot up everything starting at the modem, waiting for each part to full boot before plunging the next item in, boot your main computer prior to re-connecting the DECA to the router to ensure your computer is controlling the network and the DTV system.
This has solved conflict issues on my network for me in the past and that's what it sounds like to me, something is blocking the dtv system from getting online. factory reset of the router would be the next step i would take and make sure your main computer and the modem are the only items it can find when it first powers on.
Just to be 100% completely sure, I went back to my Westell modem and confirmed it was in "bridged ethernet" mode. I even swapped it back to normal PPPoE mode, tested it while wired to a computer, then changed it back to bridged mode. I reset the router and only connected 1 computer to view the router settings, and there was no improvement once I brought the DECA back online.
I see that you did manually assign IP addresses at one time. Perform a Network Reset to have it revert to DHCP and post the IP addresses that it comes up with. Is Whole Home working among your receivers still? - Merg Sent from my iPad using DBSTalk mobile app
When I restore all network defaults, I see a receiver IP of 169.254.6.150 on the 255.255.0.0 (incorrect) subnet. The correct subnet should be 255.255.255.0. I reset the router and only connected 1 computer to view the router settings, and wired the ethernet directly to the back of the single HR24 DirecTV receiver while bypassing the DECA adapter and was able to get a DHCP-assigned IP address in the 10.0.0.X range on the correct 255.255.255.0 subnet and successfully obtained an internet connection on the receiver. But the Whole Home network was unavailable as I could not see the other receivers on the SWM network. When I reconnected the ethernet to the DECA adapter, I could see the other receivers again on Whole Home, but of course I lose my internet connection on all clients. So the DECA is definitely contributing to the problem if I can get the standalone receiver on the internet without disrupting the other router clients. Is there a way to connect to my existing SWM and Whole Home network without the DECA adapter?
So you don't have a CCK - you have a DECA Adapter (like this: http://www.solidsign...eca--(deca1mr01)
but not this one:
)which is feeding your Internet connection into the DECA network?
Can you check to see if there are any firmware upgrades available for your router?
Also - I know others said not to plug the Ethernet directly into your HR24, but for a test - can you do this? You may lose connection to your other receivers because the HR24 will be off the DECA network, but it might shed some light on the problem. Unplug the Ethernet cable from the DECA Adapter, plug it directly into the HR24 - Restore Network defaults and reboot the HR24. If everything works it should grab an IP address from your Router and have Internet access (Youtube, Pandora, Directv on Demand should work).
If you have a DECA Adapter - it is possible the DECA Adapter needs to be replaced by a Cinema Connection Kit (CCK) - the third link I have above. You can find them on eBay usually.
Some other suggestions -
I would try a different port on your router too for the CCK, just incase that one is bad. Also - try using a different Ethernet cable just to eliminate the possibility that the cable got messed up when you switched routers.
My DECA adapter look like the one in your 3rd link and has "DECABB1MR0-01" printed on the green label on the bottom of the adapter. I notice that only the Power and c.Link indicator lights are illuminated (blinking or flashing) when I bring the DECA and receiver online while connected to the new router. The "NTWK" light is not illuminated. I assume all 3 should be on and solid (not blinking) when it's running correctly?
I notice that the DECA adapter has its own MAC ID, so could I make a static IP address assignment for the adapter itself? I don't see a reset button on it anywhere.
I am on the latest router firmware. Different ports were tried, with same result. I don't really know the difference between a DECA adapter and CCK. And I don't understand why I would suddenly need one now just because I changed router models.
Good points. If a DECA adapter is being used, it needs to have a PI to power it, although he makes reference to a coax going from the CCK to the HR24, which leads me to believe he has the wireless CCK with the coax pass through and that would have a PI with it. In either case, a PI needs to be used.
As for hooking up the HR24 directly to Ethernet, that is a good test, but let's see what the IP addresses are of the receivers first.
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Pardon my ignorance, but what is a PI? There is a separate power brick for the DECA adapter, which I have disconnected when performing my resets.
I checked the IP addresses of all of my receivers, and they were all in the 169.254.X.X range. I performed a restore network defaults and the IP addresses stayed the same.
The router is trying to tell you something by turning the diagnostic indicator to orange. You might find answers if you pursue what the orange diagnostic means.
Are your DIRECTV receivers manually configured for 192.168.x.x addresses? That might cause the router to send up a flare that you're screwing up as there's no longer a gateway at 192.168.1.1.
Converting the DHCP address space to 192.168.1.x is part of the process if you're truly going to mirror the functionality of the old router.
I couldn't find any meaningful error codes or anything about the orange indicator light on the router. The manual suggests checking physical connections and other very basic things that I have already verified.
None of the receivers appear to be manually configured for static IP addresses. The "configuration type" shows "Automatic" in the menu but I honestly don't know if that includes IP addresses too.
I have not tried reverting to a 192.168.1.X address range, but that is one thing I could try (tomorrow).
BTW- Thinking about this - I have experienced very similar symptoms when I was using my HR23-700 as a bridge to the Internet for my DECA network. Just like you - unplugging the HR23 from my network fixed the issue for my other devices. Just like you I would lose Internet access on my client devices - I never figured out why it was happening other than the DTV receivers were the culprit.
I think at the time I had a Linksys WRT600N running DD-WRT and plugged into a Gigabit switch in my home theater stand.
In your case you have a different path to the Internet (DECA Adapter), so it isn't exactly the same. But my solution was to get the Cinema Connection Kit.
I can't explain why this worked for you before and now it isn't working unfortunately.
Yes, that is exactly the same phenomenon I am experiencing too!