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WHDVR charge mandatory even for long time subscriber?


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#51 OFFLINE   peds48

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Posted 16 September 2013 - 04:54 PM

There should be... SD DVRs don't have all the same features.

 

 

If DirecTV starts charging for DLNA, yeah, I'd turn it off in a heart beat. I've got 3 other devices that can do it for free.

they already do, as RVU is "based" on DLNA


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Posted 16 September 2013 - 05:03 PM

There should be... SD DVRs don't have all the same features.

 

 

Should everybody pay the $25 fee? To motivate me to get a 2nd TV?

 

I understand that ala carte pricing for channels doesn't work due to contracts and requirements by the broadcaster and such, but features should be ala carte. I could care less about MRV, VOD, porn, sports, PPV, etc. I do care about DVR, HD, 1080p, OTA and DLNA. If DirecTV starts charging for DLNA, yeah, I'd turn it off in a heart beat. I've got 3 other devices that can do it for free.

 

But how far do you go? Would someone be able to get a credit to disable the PIP option on a Genie, or to disable the eSATA? I don't use the external drive feature but not expecting a credit. We can hide PPV, but I don't see how a credit would work to disable the feature. It's a revenue stream.

 

At least we have the option to customize the guide. Not all providers have that. Of course not everyone uses that feature, so credit :)



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Posted 16 September 2013 - 05:06 PM

 

 

There should be... SD DVRs don't have all the same features.

So then you'd be OK with a different monthly charge for a 44 than a 34 because the 44 has digital audio? And higher monthly fees for Genies than other DVRs because of their advanced features (5 tuners, 100 SL, 1TB drive, etc).



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Posted 16 September 2013 - 09:12 PM

 

 

 

There should be... SD DVRs don't have all the same features.

So then you'd be OK with a different monthly charge for a 44 than a 34 because the 44 has digital audio? And higher monthly fees for Genies than other DVRs because of their advanced features (5 tuners, 100 SL, 1TB drive, etc).

 

 

They do charge more for the Genie. $3 extra per month. They aren't charging for the tuners & HD, they are charging for MRV.



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Posted 16 September 2013 - 09:16 PM

They do charge more for the Genie. $3 extra per month. They aren't charging for the tuners & HD, they are charging for MRV.


I swapped out a HR21 with a Genie last month. Monthly bill didn't change at all.

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Posted 16 September 2013 - 10:10 PM

I swapped out a HR21 with a Genie last month. Monthly bill didn't change at all.

 

Did you have MRV before? If not, you'll start getting charged for it. If you had it before, then, yeah, its the same price.

 

EDIT / CLARIFY: Its $3 more for a Genie when used as a single standalone DVR.


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Posted 17 September 2013 - 04:22 AM

Yes, I had MRV before.

What is the fee charged if a new subscriber gets one (1) HD DVR (non-Genie) installed? Isn't that person also going to pay the $25 per month Advanced Receiver Fee?

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 05:45 AM

Did you have MRV before? If not, you'll start getting charged for it. If you had it before, then, yeah, its the same price.

 

EDIT / CLARIFY: Its $3 more for a Genie when used as a single standalone DVR.

SO if it helps you sleep at night say its a $3 fee for the extra tuners....either you want one or you dont.  If you dont, then let it go and move on.



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Posted 17 September 2013 - 08:47 AM

Yes, I had MRV before.

What is the fee charged if a new subscriber gets one (1) HD DVR (non-Genie) installed? Isn't that person also going to pay the $25 per month Advanced Receiver Fee?

 

Past a certain date, I think April '12?, you don't have a choice and have to eat the $5 MRV even if you only have one TV. Before that date, you only paid $20 for an HD-DVR (non genie) and $3 if you had MRV.

 

Just a marketing scam to make it look like DIRECTV doesn't charge $10/mo for HD when nobody else does.



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Posted 17 September 2013 - 08:49 AM

SO if it helps you sleep at night say its a $3 fee for the extra tuners....either you want one or you dont.  If you dont, then let it go and move on.

 

Why would I pay for extra tuners? CERTAINLY nobody else charges for that. You seem to be as obsessed about having the highest possible TV bill you can as I seem to be with having the lowest lol. You get all the bells and whistles don't you? MRV, PPV, VOD, premium package, all the movie channels, sunday ticket, protection plan, etc? :)


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Posted 17 September 2013 - 09:29 AM

Accept and move on please, your displeasure has been noted....



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Posted 17 September 2013 - 10:48 AM

Just a marketing scam to make it look like DIRECTV doesn't charge $10/mo for HD when nobody else does.


You keep saying there is a different price for systems with a Genie. There isn't.

The 'spin' on the Advance Receiver Fee is that it simplifies billing for customers. See the 2012 Shareholders report.

I suspect that this fee will be standard on all accounts in the future.

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 11:01 AM

There actually is a very narrow set of customers who do pay more for a Genie.  That would be the customers who are grandfathered into the separate fees ($10 HD, $10 DVR, and $3 WH) AND only have a Genie. Those customers do have to pay the $3 even though they dont use WH.  I would be very surprised if that count exceeds 10,000. 


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Posted 17 September 2013 - 11:56 AM

Accept and move on please, your displeasure has been noted....

 

Thank you for your concern. This is a thread regarding the WHDVR fee and its requirement. If you are not interested in the discussion, please leave the thread.



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Posted 17 September 2013 - 11:59 AM

You keep saying there is a different price for systems with a Genie. There isn't.

The 'spin' on the Advance Receiver Fee is that it simplifies billing for customers. See the 2012 Shareholders report.

I suspect that this fee will be standard on all accounts in the future.

 

I clarified my last post by saying there is a different price for the Genie when used as a *single stand alone DVR*. That is correct. I pay $10/mo for my HR20. The Genie would cost me $13/mo (because they require WHDVR when you only have 1 box and 1 tv).



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Posted 17 September 2013 - 12:05 PM

I think Longrider has a better answer.

But note: a new subscriber today with one HD DvR is going to pay $25 per month.

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 12:44 PM

I think Longrider has a better answer.

But note: a new subscriber today with one HD DvR is going to pay $25 per month.

 

yeah, if you are forced to pay $25 for a single box, might as well get a Genie.



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Posted 17 September 2013 - 02:45 PM

Actually, online, new subscribers can get a Genie and 3 minis for free and if you do auto-pay and paperless billing, the Advance Receiver Fee is only $15 for the first 24 months.

 

But if you opt for a HD DVR, that is $199 (still $15/month using auto pay and paperless billing).



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Posted 20 September 2013 - 11:25 PM

Advanced Receiver Fees aka DVR fees is $15 for new customers?  That's not good.

How can a HD DVR be $25 for new subs unless that's where the 15 comes from (10+15=25),with the bundled pricing structure.


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Posted 21 September 2013 - 05:35 AM

For new customers, there is no DVR, HD or MRV fees. It is all Advance Receiver Fees.

$25 per month.

But as a new customer, if you sign up for autopay and paperless billing, you get a $10 per month credit for 24 months.

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Posted 22 September 2013 - 06:21 AM

I did MRV before the Genie, now it is WHDVR. I prefer it be called MRV, seems less confusing.



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Posted 22 September 2013 - 08:28 AM

It's been called both/either for some time, though usually it's "Whole Home" and not the acronym. 


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